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This is a re-post from a previous thread.
I've listed a few differences, and they are just my personal observations. These two categories are just "different" and some may prefer one over the other, while the reverse is true for some. Just sharing information, and curious to hear other experienced punters chime in.
1) Price per punt: There may be some real value in seekingarrangement newbies, but I seem to come across many who are trying to overcharge, maybe go to the $600-$1000 range. Especially saw this in NYC, where everything is inflated, but starting to creep up in different cities. The good thing about the pros is that the price is already set and predetermined. The negative is that pros tend to stay for just the allotted time (either 30 or 60 min, or whatever) and are usually clock-watching. Semi-pros tend to not pay too much attention to the time, and it's common to have drinks/dinner/lunch etc beforehand, just to get to know each other better. It's more GFE, in the sense that it's almost like a date.
2) Pros don't care if you are married, in fact, sometimes they prefer it that way, so you won't be clingy or too needy of their time. A few of the seekingarrangement profiles specifically say "NO MARRIED GUYS" The reason is maybe some self-consciousness, or sometimes they are afraid of a crazy wife coming after them.
3) BYOC - need to bring your own condom for semi-pros, usually. I suspect some bareback is going on, since some of these semi-pros don't know the business that well, and are a bit naive. But I always insist on a cover.
4) There's quite a bit more pre-meeting work when punting on seekingarrangement. Emails back and forth, sending pics of yourself, getting some rejections. Some girls take a few days to even respond, and some won't respond at all. I've gotten some who will ask for a picture, and then go silent... I'm OK with that, no biggie.
5) The few girls I talk to all say that seekingarrangement is HUGE in the college campuses. LOTS of girls know about it, and they love meeting up with rich old guys, LOL. The sugar-baby scene is apparently quite popular, and they will introduce it to each other.
6) There are apparently some sugardaddies out there that are looking just for friendship, companionship (non-sexual), someone young and pretty to dine with, strictly platonic set-ups. This surprises me, but apparently it's out there.
7) I've done too much punting throughout these past few years, and I've become desensitized to the pros who see multiple clients a day, who are mechanical, and go through the same routine with every punter they see. In my early years, this was OK and I could still have an enjoyable time. But these days, the thought of being in line with 10-15 other punters seeing the same girl... kinda grosses me out. That's why the seekingarrangement peaks my interest. So far so good, almost all of these ladies have been super-horny! One way to tell, they get extremely wet down there upon some nominal stimulation, DATY, FIV, etc. NO LUBE NEEDED! ) With pros, they have a "business" so they have incentive to be on time, show up when they say they will, and generally try to give good service. Otherwise, they might suffer from negative reviews, which will in turn hurt their business. With semi-pros/seekingarrangement ladies, there's no such mechanism for checks and balance. So if they flake out and don't show up, there's not much recourse for the punter.
After a few more months on seekingarrangement, I have some additional insight to share, and hope these may be of benefit to some fellow punters.
1. Some girls out there do not have a good understanding of the "sugar" relationship. They either put out nothing essentially, and expect to be paid, some just to talk to them or even for the initial "meet and greet". Make sure to weed those out right away.
2. You can tell a LOT from their profile. Some just talk about themselves exclusively, even being bold enough to call themselves "spoiled", "love to shop", expensive taste, "spoil me rotten", what can you do for me attitude shines through. AVOID these. The profile can also reveal some underlying attitude issues, "don't waste my time" "any REAL men out there" AVOID these.
3. I am weary of 18-20 year olds. The maturity is usually not there. Of course you have to always watch out to make sure they are at least 18 years old!
4. You have to be an expert in evaluating photographs. Some end up much less attractive than their glamour shots they took 10 years ago. Some, however, have average pictures, but turn out to be very pretty in person!
5. Moving to texting / phone call is my goal. That shows some intent and openness on their part.
6. Watch out for the crazy / bipolar / depressed ones.
7. We all like different things, but I tend to prefer college educated, or even ladies with higher education, graduate degrees. Just more in common, for me. For some of you, education level might not be a big deal.
8. When to discuss the money aspect of the arrangement. This has varied, but it has worked well both ways. Sometimes we get that agreement beforehand, even before we meet. Othertimes, we discuss in person only after dinner/drinks etc. when we both want to proceed with the arrangement.
9. If the sugarbaby LIKES you, you are GOLDEN For providers, almost all of them will proceed with the act and basically pretend (if they are skilled) to give you some affection and let you bang them. For the SB's who connect with you, WOW, they will be all over you, dripping wet pussy, tongue lashing, humping you like crazy in cowgirl, leg-shaking, multi-orgasmic events! It's unbelievable what can occur, and it would be highly unlikely to duplicate for professional providers, at least in my limited experience.
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