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[USA][CA][Bay Area] Approaching this hobby

Hi all,

I have been lurking on this site for a few days and have been reading reviews on the Bay Area forum and I have to say a lot of this intrigues me. The better part of me is saying to not get into this as this will be an expensive endeavor and also the obvious health issues. The darker side of me is kind of pushing me to try it once in my life and be done with it. For now I will be on the side line observing and reading but for future references

1. What made you take the leap to try out this hobby for the first time?
2. Any first time advices for a potential newcomer? I have been reading about LSC Elise and LKS Ha Yun and those reviews do get me excited lol.

Also help a bro out for higher reading access to read more reviews would be appreciated!

Thanks!

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LuckyOne88   14-3-2024 13:04  Acceptance  +1   definitely start with a budget! Take your time and do your research!
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jackchan79   23-2-2024 00:53  Acceptance  +3   If you're worried about health maybe just do rub n tugs
Evolved   13-2-2024 05:50  Acceptance  +3   Make a budget and stick with it, try it a few times.
phazze93   7-2-2024 07:22  Acceptance  +1   
actavis   6-2-2024 16:15  Acceptance  +1   ask yourself if you're horny enough to pay for it? either stop while you're ahead or stop procrastinating
thebeardedones   6-2-2024 15:44  Acceptance  +1   I needed excitement and i had extra money lying around.
Susanlixxx   6-2-2024 15:27  Acceptance  +1   You need to decide if you are in the hobby, then start visiting girls and writing reports.
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1. What made you take the leap to try out this hobby for the first time?
      pure relief for your work pressure and quench your thirst.
2. Any first time advices for a potential newcomer? I have been reading about LSC Elise and LKS Ha Yun and those reviews do get me excited lol.
     being little Shy is fine. but try to understand red flags by reading the forum. as a newcomer i recommend well reviewed org and girl. i personally visited Ha Yun and she is an angel. PO is also good. there might be some light verification. Always be safe. you take care of the girls and they will take care of you.

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1. What made you take the leap to try out this hobby for the first time?

-dating civvies is exhausting LOL and once you have disposable income... what else is there to spend money on? Cars? Clothes?
Already own my condo, make good money, got nice clothes, etc. Can't fuck a porsche and YOLO

2. Any first time advices for a potential newcomer? I have been reading about LSC Elise and LKS Ha Yun and those reviews do get me excited lol.

-Don't be nervous. Don't expect the stars and the moon. It won't always be amazing, but sometimes it is!
and what i mean by that last bit is... sometimes you'll see a girl that the reality doesn't match the expectations.
Do your research, read reviews, and most importantly... KNOW what you want. It will make the reviews you read all that more useful.

Regarding health risks... you have those with civvies too.
Not to take away from this forum, but there are other resources online available to you as well.
USG, TER -- so if you're the type that will feel more comfortable doing lots of research first.. just know there is a lot of info out there

Cheers

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1. What made you take the leap to try out this hobby for the first time?

I have a few buddies that knew about storefronts and another buddy that was a very serious monger either storefront or aamp (probably once a week or once every two weeks).  Initially, I started with storefronts where it was a cool 'after-party' after drinking and hanging out with my friends.  I graduated to aamp's because it is so much more discreet and booking an hour is so much more relaxing.

2. Any first time advices for a potential newcomer? I have been reading about LSC Elise and LKS Ha Yun and those reviews do get me excited lol.

Definitely do your research to get an idea of what you want.  Spinner?  Big boobs?  Thicker vs slender?  Age?  Doing research will help you narrow down your choices.  Once you pull the trigger and book with a provider, make sure to be on time to your appointment.  It is natural to be a bit nervous your first time but if you take the time to clean up before your appointment and you are polite, you will put yourself in a position to hopefully have a good time.  YMMV always applies.

Happy mongering!

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>>> The better part of me is saying to not get into this as this will be an expensive endeavor

Dating civvies can be even more expensive. It is also time consuming and prone to drama. Having said that, don't stay away from civvies. You'll want to develop small talk skills and the wisdom to deal with relationships. Oh, and never ever tell them you've indulged in this industry.


>>> also the obvious health issues

Then make sure you cover. I've been doing BBBJ and CFS and never caught anything.


>>> 1. What made you take the leap to try out this hobby for the first time?

I wanted sex to be one less thing to think about. I found it quite liberating. I started interacting and dating girls with a lot less mental pressure on getting laid. It worked well for me but won't necessarily work for you the same way.


>>> 2. Any first time advices for a potential newcomer?

PC is the easiest to get in. Next is Yuffie's org. Some places, such as LSC, don't take references, so you'll have to screen with them directly. You might need to send a pic of your Driver's license with your fingers covering up personal info.

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Susanlixxx   12-3-2024 20:03  Acceptance  +5   Pc, Sh (Korean), then tkg and Lks,then CA etc.
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1. The reason i started this hobby especially for a quality service compared to regular hooker service.It is very consistent.
2. I suggest don’t go for bare services.
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1. I have things I want to experience but my wife has given up on fitness and I don’t want to invest time and money with a civ

2. calm your nerves before going in. Communicate what you want.

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Reply #1 Throwaway9197's post

1. I tried it out for the first time two years ago. It was during a time when I was not having a good time with dating (not getting dates with women I was very interested in, dates I was getting were not that good, ex-girlfriends getting engaged, etc.). Honestly even with how expensive the hobby is, I think I needed to do it that first time for my mental health.
2. Manage your expectations. Read reviews so you know what you're getting into. The reality is that a lot of photos out there are photoshopped. At the same time, everyone has different tastes. Some girls are very highly rated by some guys, and then are incredibly disappointing to others.

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Reply #1 Throwaway9197's post

I think everyone's incentives and motivations are going to be different. In addition, the motivations for hobbying are also going to change over time ... so for what it is worth, suggest calibrate accordingly to your phase in life, budget as well as overall lifestyle choices.

1. What made you take the leap to try out this hobby for the first time?
2. Any first time advices for a potential newcomer? I have been reading about LSC Elise and LKS Ha Yun and those reviews do get me excited lol.

- Probably out of curiosity at the start. I seem to recall one of those little cards with a picture of a pretty woman on it and a phone number drawing me in ... yeah, they used to do that in the days before the internet. After that, hobbying came and went over the years. Some years more, some years dry.
- Over time, the quest for variety came about ... especially when travelling. My soft spot is to "dine local" and try out the local talent. Sometimes flying solo in a foreign place is a tough experience so would be great if you could find a trusted wingman (or wingwoman!) Call it hybrid vigor or heterosis. Call it outbreeding. I think that is one reason we have porn video for categories like white dick in black chicks, asian man white woman, black on brown, etc!
- Stress relief also comes into play. A session with a WL to me is no-muss no-fuss I know what I will get at the end of 30/60/90 minutes. No need to "set the scene" or "wine and dine" or "romance". Sure, I could resort to Hans Solo but it is always better when someone else prettier is doing the work.
- Last though. Sure, the reviews are mostly all pink champagne and rosy peaches. But once you dive in, be prepared for some dark moments and make sure you can handle it. You will find postings about STDs (some real, some scares), fear-of-guilt, run in with law enforcement, etc. So make sure you are prepared to deal with it when the time comes.

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Reply #1 Throwaway9197's post

1. I'd been curious since I was a teenager. The age gap thing was always fantasy I wanted to live out. In college I knew I finally had the freedom and privacy to do as I pleased but it took a while before I finally had the courage to see an mature escort and then it took even more courage to go to my first AAMP but it was worth it. What keeps me in the hobby now is two things mostly. First, just like Offshore2 I enjoy the ease with which I can taste the rainbow.  A simple text or email is all it takes to see a chick in her early 20's, a Brazilian, a 60+ GILF, an obscure Japanese idol, or a mainstream American porn star. It's fun. Second, I think I enjoy living a double life.

2. Just go for it. I know I spent a good few years thinking about it before I got the balls to actually act on my desires so missed out on a lot of girls. Know your risk tolerance. Would you be ok with BBFS? What about BBBJ? Do you have a partner? What precautions are you willing to take to avoid being caught or getting her sick? Can you handle being caught? And this hobby is expensive so get good at creating a budget and sticking to it.

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1. The key reason for me is that this hobby has truly no strings attached. It is entirely transactional. I exchange some $ for someone's time, and that's it. Beyond the minimal expectations of hygiene and not being a dick, they have no expectations of me, and I actually have little expectation of them. Anything beyond that, I consider a bonus and myself lucky. Afterward, there's no emotional, psychological, or physical follow-up needed, and I love that. Fantasies that I can live out an hour (or more) at a time, and zero strings attached.

2. Maintain good hygiene, don't be a dick. Know your risk tolerance, set your boundaries/budget, be disciplined, and keep your expectations low. You'll have a great time!
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1. What made you take the leap to try out this hobby for the first time?

About 10+ years ago amm Korean friend introduced me to the hobby after he found out I was simping over a average looking person. I was pretty broke, I would visit once/twice a month at most to keep my organs working properly. This hobby also helped me to focus on my career and that helped me become more stable financially. Now, I would visit once or twice a week.

2. Any first time advices for a potential newcomer? I have been reading about LSC Elise and LKS Ha Yun and those reviews do get me excited lol.

Cover everything. Tune your expectations. Work hard, play hard. Be gentle.
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Regarding health issues:

Wear a condom. If u are very concerned: get a PEP prescription and take antibiotics a day before, during the day, and after the day. Have fun

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Reply #1 Throwaway9197's post

1) I go way back with my first experiences happening as a teenager. I Started with AMPs, then some indie providers. Found the AAMP scene later.
It started somewhat innocently in that I wasn't looking for anything, just a massage. Then she started teasing and offered more. The rest as they say is history. Variety is what kept me coming back. That and a way to exercise various fantasies without fear of judgement. I've had a lot of good times over the years!

2) Be kind, these women encounter all types. Be the one who shows up clean, on time, and with a good attitude. Be respectful. Don't assume you can do whatever you want. Figure out your budget and stick to it. I've read too many posts over the years of folks getting addicted and spending obscene amounts on this "hobby". Understand the risks and be honest with yourself about your tolerance. Know that 95%+ of the photos are either outright fake or heavily doctored. You may not always find a rare beauty, but they are out there. Have fun!
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1.  for me, being married and still in love with my wife does not remove the desire to also fuck a variety of cute young women.  simple as that.  idk if I’m wired wrong but i just dont feel a conflict between those two things.  my wife’s sex drive has dropped with age and she wont do everything i’d like, and I wouldnt dream of coercing her so here we are.  plus i have plenty of disposable income now so if i’m extra careful and dont get caught, why the fuck not. i say go for it bro

2. think about the level of risk you are comfortable with and act accordingly.  idk if you have a wife/family you need to keep this hidden from - if you do that increases the amount of care you need to take exponentially.  some things i do include

- have a separate phone/SIM.  do all mongering related activity on this phone.  nothing on your real phone or laptop, not even web browsing.  keep this phone powered off, dead battery (eg at the bottom of a junk drawer) when not actively organising a visit.  obviously, unique PIN code on this handset just in case.  

- Always VPN / incognito window / duckduckgo / etc

- do not buy a tesla or other always-connected car.  All it takes is for your wife to check where you are and… busted.

- think ahead, think about everything that could go wrong and have an excuse / cover story ready ahead of time

- figure out how to get cash without it showing up on the bank statement.  My plays are - Cashback at the supermarket.  Venmo debit card.

- use established, well reviewed providers / orgs.  finding randos on listcrawler or PD is asking for trouble imo.

- share as little PII during reviewing as possible, and only then with established revewed orgs or providers.  my red line is sharing anything that could be used to track back to me at home or work.  So - NO home address, NO work address, employer name, payroll ID, linkedin, etc.  If they demand any of that, its a hard NO from me, no matter how hot their girls are.  

- Learn to walk away if something feels off, no matter how horny you are.

- if your wife has an iPhone, get an android… and vice-versa.  Its easier to track your phone if you and the wife are in the same ecosystem

- make being away from home normal.  Join a gym, take up mountain biking, play pokemon go, whatever.  Make being not at home or work, alone, for 2+ hours at a time normal.

[ Last edited by  evade82 at 19-3-2024 01:51 ]

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anbomba   17-6-2024 13:59  Acceptance  +1   That's some solid advice. Thanks!
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yoloedge   20-3-2024 06:41  Acceptance  +3   iphone vs android is brilliant if you need plausible deniability for not sharing location
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Oh man,
I have been out of this game in the last 6 years!
I initially started with AAMPs, they are the best orgs. K-girls are generally higher class than just regular ones if the scene is still the same as back then. I truly enjoyed their services. I also hear you about health issues. So be VERY conscious about what you do there. Regular check-up is for the peace of your mind. That being said, they keep themselves clean because otherwise how can they keep working if clients complain? I know some mongers will look for BBFS, and some girls WILL cater to those, but tbh, I don't want to play that game. Some girls will hint you whether you want it or not, and it is your right to refuse and play the safe game.
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1. No experience in the US but wanted to try. Started this hobby out of curiosity. I've heard friends talked about it and figured that almost everyone I know have tried this hobby before. I do enjoy having sex with my girlfriend but I also wanted to explore what it feels like to pay someone for the service. It's a transaction after all. I get to request for the service that I feel bad/weird asking from my partner.

2. I would say just do it after you've done your research. It's pretty much like learning something new. You can take all the classes you need but evetually you will need to execute. And as you gain more experience, you also learn more about yourself. My first time was not the best because I was not familiar with the process and I was nervous. I didn't enjoyed it at all. Then I did more research and try it out a few more time to try different type of service. I slowly figured what I enjoy but at the same time this industry is pretty big. There are still more for me to explore, especially like with service in foreign countries.

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My personal guide to this hobby after my “enlightenment “

1. If you are just stepping in, always proceed with caution.
A. Money-it will become expensive sooner or later.
B. STD’s- it’s prevalent and there is a good chance you will get it,regardless of how careful you are.
C. Don’t get addicted. I know there are so many choices but always pace yourself and pause. Try to make it just an occasional hobby (good luck).
D. There is a good chance that you will be attached to someone and maybe fall in love (after  all we are Humans and vulnerable).
E. You will meet a variety of them and the experiences of sex will varies from one provider to the next. Don’t have a rigid template for,your,desire, be open to something new..
F. Always be respectful. Follow the golden rule.
G.Quit or pause when the hobby overwhelms you. Don’t make it ruin your personal relationships.

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1. As I'm getting older my physical abilities decline. I wanted to experiment, try different things to get good memories while I can.
2. Realistically evaluate your mental state readiness.
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