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#1 Post at 17-8-2023 15:33  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L PSE vs GFE Search didn't really help since every other thread has the term and it didn't seem like there was consistency between people's criteria... What constitutes PSE? Just want to make sure I'm providing the right intel and not misleading anyone

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#2 Post at 17-8-2023 16:08  Profile Blog P.M.  Font size: S M L Reply #1 last67999's post The "official" definitions are in the description of the report template: https://forum.sex141.com/eforum/viewthread.php?tid=51287&extra=page%3D1 I agree the explanation of what constitutes PSE is rather indirect there (Did you think there must be a camera hidden somewhere?). My interpretation is: to what extent (on the 1-5 scale) did the provider behave like she is in a porn movie, or equivalently to what extent did she make you feel like you were starring in one? GFE is clearer. I believe (the Bay Area folks can correct me if I am wrong) that there PSE means bareback sex. Unprotected sex is not to be endorsed/promoted according to this forum's rules, and in any case it does not make sense to rate it on a scale - you either did it or not. Hope this helps. [ Last edited by  porkchops at 17-8-2023 16:14 ] Recent Ratings Tomas_SFO   12-11-2023 02:38   Acceptance   +1   PSE = BBFS p13579   5-10-2023 00:24   Acceptance   +1    Susanlixxx   23-9-2023 05:21   Acceptance   +8   I use the classical definition in the link to pork chops linked and add cip =y/n flag littlefinger   18-8-2023 02:12   Acceptance   +5    dienw   18-8-2023 01:07   Acceptance   +3    sexyloser   17-8-2023 22:22   Acceptance   +2    kalvinhobbs   17-8-2023 22:15   Acceptance   +1   Correct for bay area and LA area uses that definition too HK_Legend   17-8-2023 17:06   Acceptance   +8

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#3 Post at 17-8-2023 18:34  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L PSE Porn Star Experince So DFK BBBJ with DT and rimjob Hard pussy and anal sex CIM/COF Recent Ratings Guys_My_Age   17-8-2023 20:36   Acceptance   +4    HK_Legend   17-8-2023 18:57   Acceptance   +8   For PSE, I add: Walk into a room for a crazy stunt & the room becoming a porn movie studio. AV + Behind The Scene in pro ... Please, don't be a Lame Dupe Over Payer (google it if you don't know) while you are in Pattaya (and every where in the world) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3JaLaq4tRg

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#4 Post at 19-8-2023 23:06  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L QUOTE: Originally posted by Dr.A at 17-8-2023 18:34 PSE Porn Star Experince So DFK BBBJ with DT and rimjob Hard pussy and anal sex CIM/COF Do you consider DFK and BBBJ as PSE? I always counted that towards GFE. DT and rim and the other stuff makes sense, but what do you consider as GFE if DFK and BBBJ aren't included? I'm in socal and the other posters are correct, PSE on listings here typically refer to bbfs, which is openly advertised by most kgirls nowadays. I tend to stay clear of those that outrightly say bbfs is available since I enjoy DATY. I'm sure they were doing it before and not advertising it, but ignorance is bliss I guess Recent Ratings sexyloser   20-8-2023 05:07   Acceptance   +2   I would say its less a region thing than a strictly K-Org thing. A lot of Bay guys insist its some unique BA thing.

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#5 Post at 19-8-2023 23:30  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L They should popularize a new category called JAVE. It’s like 40 minutes of foreplay and fetish stuff - Lots of tongue out awkward DFK, armpit licking, vibrator play, stockings tearing and lots of role playing. The girl has to act like she’s not into it but goes along with every step for some reason. Then like 10 minutes of actual sex leading to a quick finish at the end. She has to say “kimochi” at least 20 times. I’d pay for that. Speaking of pse meaning bbfs, anyone else think it’s weird when they use condoms in porn? Takes me out of it. Recent Ratings evade82   21-3-2024 04:55   Acceptance   +1   lmk if you ever find a provider for that particular niche! Videoking28   24-9-2023 14:57   Acceptance   +2   What's weird is the pixelated censored JAV Porn !!! Wha't the point ?? STFCQuark   13-9-2023 08:09   Acceptance   +3   No, I DO NOT think it weird when they use condoms in porn. sexyloser   20-8-2023 05:08   Acceptance   +3   Isn't that only in Asian porn? Mostly Chinese,

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#6 Post at 20-8-2023 00:54  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L No DFK or DATY its neither GFE or PSE Words are cheap -Kings like us need multiple girls

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#7 Post at 12-9-2023 14:25  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L To me, PSE constitutes nonstop action where any sexual position is allowed like in a pornographic movie and involves COF/CIM, usually no DFK or kissing at all. Some providers on PD offer PSE a couple of years ago, but now it seems like most if not all of them are GFE now. Some pornstars that escort allow PSE with BBFS if you show them your recent test results but the donations are $$$$. The K-org definition of PSE is different than normal escorting world. PSE just means GFE+BBFS. You can try to describe a sex position you want to try, but it is very difficult to do so when you do not speak the same language fluently. They usually do not allow COF and most don't even allow cum on tits. Hopefully the bay area scene doesn't become like the LA scene where PSE is +$100. [ Last edited by  fielderforrig at 11-9-2023 22:30 ] Recent Ratings Dwightt   23-9-2023 01:05   Acceptance   +2    sexyloser   13-9-2023 09:55   Acceptance   +3    STFCQuark   13-9-2023 08:11   Acceptance   +3   No need to use language to describe the position just show a video clip.

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#8 Post at 23-9-2023 01:13  Profile P.M.  Font size: S M L From what I have gathered in my area, over the years. Gfe has changed a bit from the Golden Era of "rbgfe" back then it seemed it was everything but bareback. Now I assume gfe will include lfk, dfk, bbbj, daty, and intercourse. Typically a fairly vanilla experience.  Pse on the other hand, I personally don't think it means bareback, but it may be an option.  I think it's usually just that, a true porn experience. More positions, a bit more raunchy, more dirty talk, a bit rougher, and an option to finish on the body, or in the mouth. Basically in my opinion gfe=your spouse or significant other                                           Pse=your mistress, side piece, Basically anyone your not supposed to be fucking Recent Ratings lorenzo37   8-11-2023 05:53   Acceptance   +2    sexyloser   23-9-2023 06:00   Acceptance   +4

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