This is financial crisis... I have made around 20% loss from my savings and 70% loss from the highest of my portfolio.

any strategy to maintain the gain in portfolio of around 15% to 20% gain per annum?

I need that for some pussies!

I'm thinking of 341.hk Cafe De Coral.

any thoughts on other stocks?

Long term or short term ?

Sorry, I meant if you buy and sell often, or you are the type buying in then put it aside for a while;possibly only look at it once in a while

both!
i mean of course making 20% loss on my portfolio i have to keep it as long term!
however, i need to make up the 20% loss in a short term!

so i maintain my annual growth of 15% to 20%!

For short term, have a look at 02328.HK. Most investment houses, if you still trust them, are advising clients to move their investments to Mainland insurance companies as safe havens!!!!

This stock has risen quite high during the past week or so...Invest at your own risk!

For short term, try forex. Short pound and Euro, soon USD... particular pound, until it hit 1.25 then you turn to buy. Not for faint of heart however. fast money though

for short - middle term, A50(2823) and HK ETF(2828.HK), while still bear market, China and HK and Taiwan should rebound to about chinese new year(though not because of Chinese new year)... how many percent profit  doesn't matter, sell it in advance of others. It is a technical rebound, will go down again

If you are risk taker, then 1919; 2343; 2866;0598.  Pay attention to BDI index.

Insurance companies as asia play mentioned also good choices. safest 2628, more potential  2318 and 0966

If you saw gold fall to under 750 USD/ounce, then 2840. If you saw gold fall under 700, pour your money in

Always remember to cut your lose if thing went wrong, or hedge with options (buy ETF, selling put in option). Don't do futures ...

And I take no responsibility of whatever I say here   You are at your own risk

of course la....
i am sometimes give advice too!
and i take no responsibilities either!
last year i made quite a bit on 388.

and since it is now a bear market, i need to change my strategy.
not just buy blue chip.  
i have to LEARN when to cut loss.

Don't know if this is insider info or what but I know Cafe de Coral's business in booming, their cash flow has increased dramatically since economic slow down because more people are eating at their restaurants.  however they recently removed a large amount of cash for a new 'project' so I expect them to be expanding ad mist the financial turmoils.

Agree with happygoing that 2828, 2823 and 2628 are good safer bets right now but i still think that the stock market will still go down in the future.

I personally like the china properties during these shorter rebounds such as 688 and 1109

But if you are more risky than that, then i would go with 3323 and 1919 (these guys fluctuate like crazy but can be good if you can stomach the risk and enter at the right time... i don't think now is the right time though... probably should wait a while)

Cutting losses is definitely something everyone needs to learn. Not always an easy thing to do esp if you think you're right and it should still go up.

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Pound fall; USD fall .... since posted. ....... quick money

Smart money might again return to raw material, and that China is having huge construction that needs raw materials... If so, BDI index will go up, especially it has fall so much. related to BDI index is 1919 and/or alike on surface shipping

yeah... why the hell did the HS H-shares index went up so bloody much yesterday?
maybe i shall save a little bit more and start trading again.

you can only make money by selling things! buying lots only gives potential profits, but a profit, isnt a profit untill it goes into your bank account!

[ Last edited by  simplytheguest at 19-12-2008 09:12 ]

ah! yes... that's an important rule too.

the market was too good in 2006 to 2007....
everyone made money...

can't say i'm the god of gamblers anymore...

how come? dont you wear your ring on your little finger no more?

what about chocolates? you dont eat them either?

remember when chinese people were shipped to america to dig gold??

many got sucked in cos they thoought they will make a fortune with the gold they will find!

sure, some did! but do you know who made the most money??

the guy that sold them spades to do the digging

understand ma?

if you dont know, then how can you make money??

winners make headlines, whiles losers read them!

All i can say is relax and be patient. There should be more bumpy roads ahead and many buying opportunities. There should be no reason to chase stocks in the current market environment

1. realise that 15-20% is about 2x what you can make without doing any work, since it is way in the upper percentiles of typical performance.
2. realise that anyone who gives you financial advice, if he actually KNEW how to make 15-20% would NOT BE GIVING YOU THE ADVICE IN THE FIRST PLACE.  He would borrow money (including from you), make 15-20% on it, and give 3-5% to you.  This applies to ALL professional money-managers, albeit with slightly different numbers.  
3. realise that if you're going to make the decisions yourself, 80% of investors lose money in the long run to the 20% that make 80% of the profit.

Obviously, the only way to make money is to take control yourself.  Do what the masters have done, people like Warren Buffett (buy and hold) or David Novac or Paul O'Neal (trading).  

The simplest investment formula that anyone can do is to buy index trackers, directly from the manager of the tracker fund and NOT as part of a managed portfolio and buying a set $ amount on a regular schedule e.g. monthly.  This way you will do very well over the next couple of years as it continues tanking, ultimately things will turn around and you should get a return you can brag about. By the time you retire you'll be dining out on how smart you were to buy through the "dip".  But don't expect 15-20% this way ... over the long haul you might expect around 12%.  

Depending on how much responsibility you want to take, and how organised you are, you should consider attending courses in trading and technical analysis.  One course is good, but for a clearer picture you probably want to attend several.  

You can make good money buying and selling stocks - I know people who make as much as 15-20% per month - those are people who have invested a LOT of money in their education, have made very expensive mistakes, and had the discipline to school themselves to learn a system that works.  Me, I am part of the 80% that haven't ... like you ...

But remember THIS forum is definitely the wrong place to get valuable investment advice!!!  

masters? , warren buffet recently lost 16bn US,

Currently, i think its a bear market, short term trading (less than a month or even contra) has a high percentage of loosing money cause u are trying to catch on the small wave or even rebounding wave. So , everyone has been saying that US in recession and world in recession too. Therefore , do u think that this recession is a V curve or a U curve. How to buy at the lowest? its very difficult. For me , i prefer stock that have good management team, reasonable PE ratio , reasonable NTA and hopefully reasonable div payout. I'm 80% long term and 20% short term. so far my short term is hurting me and long term is in the lost too but i will not cut lost on long term stock but will cut on short term cause speculative short has no good fundamental just rely on rumors and news.
OMG i bored myself with the above statement. lol... take care and have fun.
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