Dunno if this is a report or a confession, just thought I'd share with you guys that I think i've banged at least 3/4's of the tall group at Baccara .  I can't go there anymore, its too awkward wai'ing to half of the 1st floor and have since changed to Rainbow 4 at nana... I think it's rainbow 4, its the one with all the Japanese tourist, the girls there are pretty hot, not as hot as the plastic surgery barbies as Baccara, but hot enough.

@jjj37   I wish i can be bothered.... there isn't much to write about to be honest.  It's Baccara, choose your flavor and pay your bar fine.  It's all about chemistry, either she's so hot you don't care, or she's hot and the two of you get along and end up with a great experience.  

Some girls are fun, they'll want to hang out, go party, go eat, some just want to do the deed and get back to work and it all really depends on what kind of mood they are in.  

Have fun =)

I've never been inside Baccara. Always seemed a little too commercial.

But still curious about Baccara since they seem to have the hottest girls out front. There has been a few I wanted to fuck right there on the spot.

What's it like inside? Music? Dancing? Pushy with drinks? Drink minimum? Girls nude? Girls have numbers and you pick? Price? Place to boom boom or take out only? Can you get a blowie at your table?

I find ALL want to go eat!

Obe

Stop choosing the chubby ones...

Went there once....full of japanese bros.  Drinks overpriced, girls have attitude, walked away after one drink.

@jeffzeke

Hmm...tbh, i don't think I've ever had any bad experiences from the girls at Baccara, it's always been good times.  I'm in my 30's, speak a little thai, fight a little muay thai, know some of the issan words, this all helps with building some sort of chemistry with the girls.  

I've ended up having some weird relationships with one of the girls... that lasted for a year or so.  I woudln't say she was my gf, but we became quite close.  If she wasn't a hooker I would say we were dating.

One time I brought a girl back from Baccara, was banging her against the window and some joker from the hotel across from us shined a laser at us during the shag.  She freaked out, I laughed, it was all pretty funny.  

Most of those girls that work there do pretty well for themselves, they all have nice shit.  Many of them have bought multiple condos off of selling that pussy.  

Last year I spent at least 60-70 days in thailand, mostly at Radisson Blu in Bangkok ( walk to Soi Cowboy )... this year will be significantly less, the muay thai has destroyed my shoulders, will require a rotator cuff surgery.

PS

laser dude has been in Thailand too long  

Well bro, what would you preferred, floodlight rather than laser?

I always find Baracca to be over crowded - maybe I need to go through the week or early. But it's a cool club, especially with that glass dance floor - nice touch.

Some people have said the girls are not the friendliest, but what do you honestly expect?  The girls at Bac are probably one of the best looking bunch of gogo girls in Bangkok.  Many of the first floor girls earn a decent wage and more or less can decide on how many customers they want to take a night.  It's true, they don't work for it as hard, but once out of the club they've always been pretty cool.  For me, I don't like a country bumpkin, i like me a city girl, someone I can take out and hang out with.  I don't mind the type of crowd, it keeps out some of the riff raff's.

Are the girls there only into Japanese looking guys?

All asians are okay, some white guys are ok, never seen any african africans, not talking about african american or african europeans.  Seen a couple indians at Bac, but not often, and they don't get no love cause they act all weird and shit all the time.

The baccara girls like a early 30's asian guy, does well for himself, lives a nice lifestyle.  That's the win right now.  I know all them bitches there, all the single ones want is a nice mid 30's asian guy with the shit i mentioned above.  Thats their lottery ticket.

scooter when you say relationship what do you mean? you able to provide more details? do you still pay for her a time or how does it work? I've gotten myself into a similar situation and im not sure where this is going to be honest - mostly suspecting i am just another customer.

Just my two cents: you realize you're juggling a hot little bottle of nitroglycerin, right?

Baccara used to be my fave go-go on Soi Cowboy but that was long ago. Last time I went there were a bunch of dyed-blonde, tattooed/pierced gals with bolt-on tits doing the two-step shuffle and chit-chatting with one another because that's what they do at work--they're just there to punch the timecard and wait for Toshi to Tokyo to make his annual visit, which will be spent at hotel buffets and shopping on his dime at Terminal 21. Possibly also Dieter from Düsseldorf, but likelier a Kim or Park from Seoul as Bacarra's been an Asian fave for years.

There were other girls working the crowd, but the onstage "talent" was disinterested. This was about the time I stopped visiting go-go bars. I first went in the late 80s, when dancers would do synchronized moves (dive-bombing floorward on separate poles, for example), go down on each other (this was a regular feature at Hollywood Royale, which was in the Rainbow 4 spot), wear giant day-glo butterfly wings, etc.  The entire entertainment sphere was different then--no one was glued to their mobile phones, as they didn't exist in that world.

But one thing is as true today as it was back then: you can fall for a Thai WG. We're all human after all, and if they see that look in your eyes you are marked. A skilled go-go dancer will have 2-3 full-time sponsors: guys who transfer money to their bank accounts monthly. Meanwhile most dancers have a Thai husband or boyfriend. Don't take my word for it: ask Bangkok residents who know about the scene.

You need some direction, you need to know "where this is going." A lot of it depends on you: do you speak Thai? Are you living in Bangkok? Do you let her take the lead in shopping/eating excursions? Are you spending more money on this hobby than you thought you would? Are you falling in love with her? Does she invite her friends along to social occasions with you and expect you to pay the tab? There's a lot more but that's a start.

Thai WGs learn quickly that Westerners will put up with stuff a Thai man never would. They don't respect you for it (why do you think they keep their Thai BF?). They DO respect you more if you keep your expenses in line: Thai women love simple snacks, smiles, jokes, and appropriate payment for services rendered. If you think she's going to walk away from the bar for YOU, you may be in for a shock.

A few farang/Thai bargirl relationships have worked out. But they're the minority. Generally it's a trainwreck. Call me cynical, fine. But I'm not wrong. Ask around.

My suggestion is to do some deep thinking about this and figure out where it SHOULD be going. One good thing to do would be to take a break from the gal. A week, maybe more. If you're taking a trip, take the trip. If staying in town, tell her you need some time alone. There are all manner of white lies that are appropriate in Thailand, but here's a case when you want to see her reaction. If she gets angry over this, tell her "jai yen yen" and walk away. You can always come back.

JtB

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Jack many thanks for your detailed input. I think a part of me wants to believe in fantasy, not saying it doesn't exist but i can understand i am more likely against the odds here. We only met twice so i wouldn't say i love her exactly but we have been messaging everyday since and its fun. I'm a Chinese living in US, I don't speak Thai nor do i live in Bangkok (now wheres that guy who said i had a BBC lol). So yeah, im back in US now, she hasn't asked for anything yet but I am back in Bangkok around June. We sort of agreed to meet up again and she wants 10k baht for each day. I will be there for about a week but i honestly don't know what i should do.. Said she likes me and that but i honestly don't know. I want to believe it but who knows, cant help but think would she still see me if i didn't pay? or maybe there's another 10+ customers that visit her annually doing this, or maybe she does have a Thai bf/husband.

Gayboy if she's asking you for 10k a day your not in any sort of relationship.

The girl I use to see would not ask me for money, but I do give her enough to cover her bar fine.  She would invite me out with her friends, sometimes i would stay at her condo, we would go out to movies, go to music festivals, hang out and just chill chill.  She never asked me for money nor did she ever ask me to buy her shit.  She was always very proud, but I do know she has a gang of dudes that do pay her quite a lot, she owns 2 condos, a couple cars and a bunch of nice shit.  

Did I ever give her some money?  Yes, but it was never something that was expected or demanded.  

All good things must come to an end.  Even to the point where we've deleted each other from FB.  This is also part of the reason why I don't go to bac anymore.

This. This is what go-go girls aspire to. Some are skilled at acquiring a "gang of dudes" (nice one scooter!) and make more money than most Thais.

scooter also gives some insight into the way it CAN work: pay the essentials (barfine) and they'll hang out with you if they like you, and are not otherwise occupied. If the financials are taken care of then sanuk is what's sought, and if you're a fun guy to hang out with, you might have company, and nothing wrong with that.

Other gifts are as-and-when. When I lived in Bangkok, I could tell when one of my regulars was in need of a cash top-up, shall we say. If you've established that you won't shell out for a silly excuse (Mom is sick, buffalo is sick, dog needs meditation lessons), they respect that. But you should always buy fruit/snacks and stuff like that.

If a Baccara girl does a 24-hour stint for 10K, Gayboy, and you're fine with that, go for it. She can be your fantasy tour guide when you visit Bangkok. The thing to do is not to send money overseas--it amazes me that I have to mention it, but guys do. The buffalo needs meditation training, please send 20K baht/month, miss you so much, muah muah. I know guys who've told me they helped write those letters, and I've personally helped write emails for a girl or two.

I don't understand this much at all. Do I send money to my favorite Mexican restaurant in San Francisco from Asia?? I do not. When I'm there, I'll dig into some of their find food and pay them then. "PLEASE PAY WHEN SERVED"...it is not a difficult concept.

Anyway, try not to obsess...I know the feeling. Jai yen yen, dude.

JtB

Jai yen yen is correct.

Keep in mind 10K probably won't get you 24 hours, most likely 8pm to 4pm.  She needs to rest, go to the salon and get ready to work again at 8pm.  

I've never had a first floor tall group baccara girl ask me for money outside of the ST or LT.  Most of these girls are doing ok, the majority are with an iphone 7/8/X and live a pretty decent lifestyle.  Considering the backgrounds of most of these girls, their lives have significantly improved.  Many of them seem to have a bit of cash and are not so hard up.  Do they life gifts?  The answer is yes, just like any other girl/human.  

With that said, I'm sure there is a certain sucker type that these girls can spot from 500 paces, and if your one of them, prepared to be milked.

BTW, the fried chicken just outside of the entrance of soi cowboy is one of the best in the world.

if they are firm about 10k for 24hours? is that actually good? am i asking too much if i just offer to pay her bar fines instead or is she making a lot of sacrifice financially for me by doing this? i don't intend to have a non stop marathon shag fest and i think she knows, i just want to spend time with her and check out Thailand tbh. ha i saw the chicken, it looked a bit dark and greasy to me. btw what do you mean by 'tall' group?