Subject: Met a WG, and we text daily...
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Met a WG, and we text daily...

SO I met a WG, it was her first time or so she said.  We exchanged after the meet, and have had multiple sessions together.  She said she wont accept anything from me anymore as she feels like when she is with me we are a couple....

Thoughts?  

Kind of strange.... huh.

Yeah, I like her a lot, shes great, beautiful, and kind.

I go to her a lot because I know she doesn't work as much if I pay her when I do.  But now she says she wont accept anything because she feels like we are a couple when we are together?

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Reply #1 breseis's post

If you like her, enjoy her. Buy her gifts or take her shopping. Keep your contact info private though and keep your eyes open for scam or weirdness.

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Reply #1 breseis's post

I don't judge, and I don't think that there are many on here that would either. But I think that you gotta decide what it is that you want first. And I ain't talking about thinking with your little head either.

1. Potentially someone you can bring home and maybe marry?
2. A fun fling?
3. Enjoy the fucking but not wanting anything out of it?

Decide that, and treat her accordingly. If you just want #3, then do as the Dooper says. Like, to a T.
If you want #1, then are you OK with her continuing to offer services? And..... if not, are you in a position to help her get out of it. Bottom line, they're in it for the money. My question is always..... why do they want the money?

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Reply #1 breseis's post

Take Uncledad's advice. Really think about it.
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Reply #1 breseis's post

first of all, where is this happening ?

second, how old are you and are you married ?

third, how many times have you met her ?

fourth, where did you meet her ? (night club/KTV, walk in/up, sauna etc)

fifth, do you thing her goal is to be privatized ?

sixth, are you the type of person who'll sink ship easily ?
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Reply #1 breseis's post

Feels great doesn't it?  

The girl that's wanted by so many guys, the one guys willingly pay to fuck, really only wants you to fuck her ... that's a teenage wet dream IRL

Everyone has needs.  She has sexual needs, which are (often) not met by her clients.  You have sexual needs which are (apparently) not fully met by paying for sex with lots of attractive young girls.  She has emotional needs, to feel she belongs and can communicate with someone.  

Only it's a fantasy

She's fantasising that you care about her and will be there when she needs you in future.
You're fantasising that this hot girl has no strings attached and she'll let you go when you want to roam.

Cant blame or criticise either of you.  

It IS good. And it is also a mutual exchange.  

If you're going to dive in head first, there are risks to navigate around including:-
  STI
  Pregnancy
  Emotional attachment, hers and yours
  Jealousy - hers if she ever sees or hears you touching another girl
  Jealousy - yours that she's fucking a dozen guys a day and will ask you to wait while she services a customer
  Marriage demands
  Demands for financial emergencies (mother, grandmother, etc)
  Pressure from her handlers (what, you thought she's alone in the business?)  
  Social consequences of dating a sex worker - your friends who ask you how you met, and what her qualifications are

Are you ready to meet her parents, and look them in the eye?  

In the end, after you've listened to all the comments from other more experienced guys, ignore their advice and choose your own path.  You never know, the romantic dream can happen, and you should write your own script.

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be careful, it starts off very fun and exciting

But once real emotional attachments are formed on either side, it can get very messy to say the least

Have fallen for a few myself in HK & Macau, sometimes its gone very well, sometimes very
badly..also know people who have met, fallen for and made it work, so advise being careful and wish you the best of luck
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Be careful not to be fall in triad trap , maybe it's dangerous just saying =S
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Well to answer questions as I am actually seeking advice in reality lol...

1. Potentially someone you can bring home and maybe marry?
---I would say possibly, then again you never know until you actually try

2. A fun fling?
---For me not really, Sex can be gotten anywhere


3. Enjoy the fucking but not wanting anything out of it?
---For me no, I definitely want something out of it, but her on the other hand, she stated she wouldnt want me paying her because she feels the relationship is more of a couple relationship feel

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first of all, where is this happening ?
---  Most of the time at my place.  She will work till her normal time, go home and take a shower and come over for the night.

second, how old are you and are you married ?
--- I will be 29 soon, she is 24 years old... Both single

third, how many times have you met her ?
---  Double digits
---  Plus overnighters

fourth, where did you meet her ? (night club/KTV, walk in/up, sauna etc)
---  She was on the side of street one day, didnt look like a WG, looked more lost and nobody talked to her.  I approached her to see if she was okay or needed directions or help.

fifth, do you thing her goal is to be privatized ?
---  In what sense?  Like me help her work?

sixth, are you the type of person who'll sink ship easily ?
--- Explain?

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Social consequences of dating a sex worker - your friends who ask you how you met, and what her qualifications are
--- This one actually comes up recently, my coworkers know I have been talking to a Chinese girl from Mainland and all say shes a WG even though they know nothing else other than we talk a lot on phone.

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But once real emotional attachments are formed on either side, it can get very messy to say the least

Have fallen for a few myself in HK & Macau, sometimes its gone very well, sometimes very

--- Could you explain a bit for me your opinions be it in PM or here?  Would love to hear them

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Be careful not to be fall in triad trap
--- I think she is independent working girl actually.  She keeps all her money except for what she pays to the establishment she is staying at for that period of time.
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Reply #9 breseis's post

Definitions

Privatised = marriage, or fully funded concubine
Sinking Ship = falling in love with her, hopelessly losing self control, and believing you only need to agree to all her demands for you both to be happy

Here's what's going to happen next ...

you're going to start finding her clothes in your closet -
knickers first,
then a change of shirt and pants,
then girlie hair shampoo in the shower,
etc ...

Then one day she's going to start asking who you're seeing, and fly into a rage that you fucked one of her friends, even if it was before you met her  

After which you'll be left wondering why it's OK for her and not for you ...




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Reply #1 breseis's post

This sort of happened to me.  She worked in a sauna in Macau.  After awhile she didn't want money either.  Then she switched positions at the sauna where should did not have to provide service, and finally quit and returned home to Vietnam.  I would visit her there and met the entire family, and man there were a lot of them.  

The hardest part for me was always wondering if she was doing someone else.  Although she was no longer a provider at the sauna, they were always offering her big money to come to their hotel room. To be honest, it made me a little nuts because our plan was for her to immigrate to the states.  She worked in Macau because she took care of her entire family who were all very poor.  In the end, she just could not bring herself to leave them.  For my part, I shelled out tens of thousands of dollars to make sure they were well enough cared for so she would not have to take side work to do it.  

We are no longer a couple, but we are still very close and wechat with each other everyday.  And frankly, I love her family. I did learn that I will never fall for a WG again. If she stays in the business, even if for just a little while, and you fall hard, it will rip you and your relationship apart.  It just kind of eats at you. She seems to think the she and I are going to go in lie this forever, where I visit her and her family periodically, and occasionally act as a financial safety net when they experience difficulty.  Now I just need to find a way to tell her that I found someone else.  And this one is far away from being a working girl. I also don't know how I feel about giving up my "hobby."

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Reply #11 Hines's post

Dear, I was in that position one time, and the experience I get from that, is that you need to talk to your girl and let's get clear every doubts, like happens to me, she only needs the feeling of being with someone, she was clear, continue as Wg, get the money and back to hometownand buy the house for his parents and son . End of history
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Just date her and start a real relationship like any other couple.

Is her past relevant to your relationship? As a former(?) WG, then not really. It's not like she was dealing drugs or murdering people. Just together agree on a bullshit story if you need to tell family or friends like you two met randomly on the street while shopping. You're not really lying since you did meet her while you were out "shopping" and you approached her not thinking that she was a WG. And even if you did know it still makes no difference.

Like really, would you walk away from dating someone you seem to have strong rapport with just because she is/was a WG? Conversely, would a girl walk away from any guy just because he's had a lot of one night stands? A mature person wouldn't care about this because it's not relevant to the relationship.

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as i said been through a few situations like this, and also seen friends and associates do the
same across Asia

As i said, the problem is once real emotions get involved on either side, it can become very hard, when i used to run security for a few clubs in HK on both Kowloon & HK side, you'd end up getting to know the working girls, from the walk in ones to the girls from nightclubs and Karaoke's who would come in with clients or after work....

The problem is you start dating one, its great fun at first, and then "hmm how do she know this person? is it a client or a former client or customer?'   the times when they'd come in or walk past with a client/customer, etc

Its tough, have seen some people find long term happiness, and more than a few find all kind of heartache, so just be careful is all i say

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Reply #9 breseis's post

You've heard the tales of caution, but ultimately, I for one am not here to judge. We all find love in our own way, and if this happens to be the way you've found yours, go for it. Maybe y'all get married, or maybe the shine wears off and y'all fall out of love. No one can tell the future.

There really isn't a right or wrong answer to this.


~D

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I have read this thread with interest and some concern for the OP. I have been where he is and know how amazingly good and bad this situation can be, a real roller coaster. Hold on and just enjoy the ride, I have not experienced anything quite like it in my life, so much fun, happiness and sadness - loved/hated every second and would do it all again.

One cautionary note I make is that I have personally known five girls in "committed" relationships (ie. being sponsored by a guy to support themselves and/or family) who I thought would be loyal to their BF.  Each one was willing to keep fucking me (on a paid or free basis) when their BF was not around.  I am nothing special, just an average guy and I have no doubt they would do with others - in a few cases I was really surprised as they are people I thought would be very loyal to their BF.  Let me be clear I make no judgement on any of these girls or their BF's just writing from my experience to provide another dimension for the OP.

Have fun, hope it works out!!!
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Reply #16 halfclover's post

Yes, what Half writes is the same as my experience.

I loved the numerous WG-romances I have had.  Intense.  Awesome.  Painful.  A rollercoaster indeed.

But just as Halfclover said, every one of them that got married or engaged still kept seeing me.  I began to believe they are quite like us punters, actually: they don't equate love+sex the way most women do.  They will keep fucking around.  They enjoy the excitement of it, just as we do.

So, enjoy the ride to the fullest Bro, but be careful.
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