Subject: Advice for first time, newbie/virgin
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Advice for first time, newbie/virgin

Hi, I'm 22 years old and this is my last week in HK, after much thought and time spent on here reading all the FAQs and advice threads I'm around 90% sure I want to lose my virginity to a WG before I leave. Personally I have been saving my v card for many years but after a long time I've become impatient and said "fuck it" just want to experience it and have some fun, and I had a few questions...

I want to get a girl with at least a 4-4.5/5 face and body and I have a pretty high budget, but I read in some old threads that a high price doesn't mean better experience/service. Is this true? And do the more expensive girls have less customers? I have my eye on a couple girls both asian and russian/european, $1200-1500 but I'm probably going to ask for 2 shots since I'm scared I'm going to shoot after 0.1 seconds so does anyone know how much extra 2nd shot usually costs for WGs this price? I'm also grateful for any good advice you bros out there can give me for the best first time possible with a WG. Any recommendations for specific girls are welcome too. Thanks in advance

[ Last edited by  csschet at 25-5-2016 01:29 ]

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zebra   25-5-2016 12:24  Acceptance  +3   $1200-1500 is not a high budget at all in Hong Kong!
DArtagnan   25-5-2016 08:09  Acceptance  +1   2 shots = 2x price. And yes, NO connection between price and quality. Reports are the best guide.
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Tbh right the girls DB pictures vary greatly when compared to DB and in person, so i wouldn't solely go off DB pics or you will be disappointed. In addition to this paying more doesn't necessarily mean better service as I've paid over 1000hkd in some cases and came out regretting it, solely because it was shit sex and short to say the least. Some WG's will jerk you off with lube till you cum. On the flip side though I've had some amazing sex and massage experiences for half the price on Many case, but either way just monger around and find someone who's worth fucking and visiting back again multiple times.

Some advice; never pay upfront. Always pay after having sex. The reason being is I've often paid 1000hkd for the WG to just use her phone, not be interested. Won't shower you and jerk you off till you cum. This could be due to the fact that they already have the money and don't really care after that.

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Reply #1 csschet's post

Don't be so sure you'll shoot easily. Many people grip too tight tossing themselves off.

Also price is not indicative of ability or service.

You want the best service and decent looks that is the holy grail.

OTOH the best service in the world may also skew your expectations I'm not exactly proud of it, but all in all I've probably shagged over 800WG and it took years to find somebody better than SQ.

I found one who was better in 2014. I still look for that illusive better one that her these days as the 2014 one left shortly after.




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Post at 25-5-2016 08:17  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #1 csschet's post

If you really do have the budget, and if you're still here for a week, you'll do MUCH better by exploring some bars until you see a girl you like, and negotiate directly.  Much better chance of GFE, repeats, and turning it into a memorable time.  Especially if you tell her you're playing your V card and willing to be generous.  

One shot going against the clock with a girl who didn't choose you?  Doesn't matter how hot she is, save that for when you're twice your age, not your first inexperienced attempt.

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austin821   27-5-2016 05:28  Acceptance  +3   Good advise there.




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@csschet

Keep above advice from fellow bros. I'd just add:

1. Keep your expectations in check on several fronts:
A. Losing your V even to a Civvy GF can sometimes not live up to expectation.
B. There will always be some Discrepancy between Photo and real life looks.
C. Wether you go HG or 141, there will always be some element of luck. Better to sample a few (or more) than to put all your eggs in one basket!

2. Solutions:
If you have a budget, and you've already got to the point of saying "Fuck It!", then stop doddling! Just do it!
If you had told me you're still waiting for someone special, then I would not recommend going to 141/HG/BarGirl.
But in your case, you'd be much better served just taking advantage of Hong Kong and punting half a dozen working girls in the remaining time you have left!!!

Do some due diligence, but it's more important to just get out there and get your dick wet! Consider that while it's possible, it's probably unlikely that your first time sex is going to be mind blowing for you the first time--even if it was with a GF. So my two cents: JUST DO IT!

Now, you're probably wondering. Do I go HG or 141 or bar girl. You've probably only looked at DB pictures--this is not recommended as you are bound to set yourself up for disappointment, especially if you only sample once. If you have a high budget, it's better to sample a half-dozen girls without any expectations--whether it be bar girl, HG, 141. Once you find one you 'click' with, you can repeat with them if you like and get a better GFE.

Don't worry about your first time. Think of it as an experiment! The more you sample, the better chance you have at getting to know yourself and what you like.

PS. If you're looking for russians, check out my username as I reviewed quite a few last month. It may be outdated now, but at least gives you an idea.

Don't forget to report back!
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Post at 25-5-2016 10:36  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #1 csschet's post

why do you want to loose your V to a hooker ?
get a GF and loose it to her !
... first time should always be special and you're never going to get anything
special with any WG if you visit her first time !

that said, you probably will still do it with a WG so read the reports section and find a
slightly older more experienced WG rather then someone who's young and good looking,
service is more important at your stage and most young WGs will not be good in that part
unless you are experienced enough to bring it out of them (which you are not)

edit

I'm going to be bold and make a suggestion ...

http://go141.com/en/A23328-CB-14 ... ?ref=Search+(region,building)
visit this girl, she's slightly older but still a great bod and a decent/average face,
her service is consistent and good, call her or knock on the door and ask her the price for 2 shots or even 3 shots
... for someone like you, she has the experience to make you cum as many times as you want !
just make sure of one thing, don't get into a erotic trance and enter her unprotected while she's servicing you,
it could happen so be warned

BTW the prices in her DB is wrong ... so make sure you ask beforehand

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Post at 25-5-2016 13:40  Profile P.M. 
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Try Thai

All kinds of good advice here, but as it sounds like you might be from out of town and perhaps you don't speak the local language, I would definitely try one of the wonderful ladies from Roy's stable of Thai gals http://go141.com/en/honey.php?fansgroup=67
Most of them speak at least basic English and understand more than they speak. Check out the reports on them and choose one who sounds like she gives great service.

They're popular, so you need to start calling early (perhaps just before the time listed as when the gal starts work). Have a few options open, but in general I would say to Roy if the first choice isn't available: "any girl free?"...

I would definitely tell the gal up front that it is your first time. Not just 'it is my first time', as she might think it's just your first with a Thai gal, or working gal....make sure she understands it's your first time having sex! Even be a little humble and and say ''I don't know what to do''....even "maybe I come too quickly".....she'll know what to do.

You could even say "if I come too quickly I give you nice tip if you make me come again''. Officially another shot should mean another session, with full payment....in other words you would have to call the agent again and make sure that there's no punter waiting for the next Q....1 Q usually means 45 minutes.

If you offer her something specific like $500, she'll pocket it herself and not have to share it with the boss.

You will still have to get it all done, including your exit shower, within the allotted time.

If you speak Chinese, it will be a lot easier as you can tell the girl the same thing in her native language.

I would definitely go for a Hotel gal (HG) Honey....the surrounding will be much nicer than a walk up..they tend to be pretty grotty and you'll almost certainly have other punters hanging around.
Once you book a hotel girl, you're told where to go and call or WeChat (or sms) from the lobby and you'll get a callback with a room number.
You're very unlikely to run into a previous punter in the corridor.

If you don't speak the local language and you have a local friend you can trust, get that friend to make the call using YOUR phone....they all require called ID.

If you don't have problems with the actual booking even consider having a friend write in Chinese that you are a virgin and that you are nervous. There is no shame in this, and it will help you to have a pleasant experience.

Right now I would go for PM Dan Yee, but that's just my taste. Read other reports and make sure they're still on the database.

If you DO speak the language or if you go with a note in Chinese explaining your situation, I would perhaps hold on to the actual fee until afterwards, but give the gal a nice fat tip up front and make sure she knows it's a tip. You could even put it in a Chinese ''lucky money'' envelope.
(In fact according to tradition, SHE should give YOU some lucky money after taking your virginity as this is considered lucky for the gal!

Please let me know your ethnicity (perhaps by PM), and if you choose from among the LG/AL or PM/NY gals, I can help you by sending a message to the respective Mama to
forwewarn her. You would have to give me the number of the mobile phone you will be using with your caller ID and also your mongering name.
I doubt if any punters use their real names!

If, for example, your choice is PM Dan Yee, I have her direct WeChat and call also inform her of what is coming and to take extra care of you, but the booking has to be made through the agent(s).

The PM/NY...AL/LG gals are in  4/5 star hotels and I think that adventure will be much nicer than a grotty walkup. They're mostly in old rundown buildings.

Good luck! Here's a photo of Dan Yee which is only slightly Photoshopped, but near enough to the real thing.


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After reading Siklong's post, I think I'd go with what SikLong recommends--he is by far the more experienced punter. And from his post, seems to really understand your situation.

Since I read that you were thinking Russians, I was originally thinking that we might have similar tastes. However, I forgot that as a virgin, you will likely need to be walked through your first time. As such, I too would nix seeing a young, hot, model-looking WG. Like other bro's have said, for your first time, you need service more than anything. As Sik recommends, Roy's thai stable is probably a good intro for you--more serviced oriented, better english etc.

Even though I personally favor Russians, if this is your first time, the chances are against you that you'll have a good time.  You probably do need to be more experienced and assertive to handle the Russians as they are typically less service oriented--but not always.

However, once you've gotten past your first time, IMHO, go all out on the russians=)
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Post at 25-5-2016 14:20  Profile P.M. 
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BTW, looking at SikLong's link:

Has anybody tried this $1500 bird? It says she's English/Russian, but she looks more asian to me--perhaps Thai?

http://go141.com/en/A33432-TST-HoneyGirls-NYLydia.html

If she's thai, that's the first time I've seen such a high price. I mean, she's sexy as hell...but curious about how she charges so much more...even more than the other russians at the 1200 price point...
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, I also wouldn't recommend it.  I went through a similar thought process but so glad I ended up finding a girlfriend.

But if you're determined, first look at  Sik's reports.  He has a knack of finding some absolute stunners.  He's posted the gorgeous Dan Yee above, but partly because he wants to keep Waist to himself...

Sorry, Sik!  
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Thanks for the advice and info bros, much appreciated! I will be trying my luck in LKF bars the rest of this week and if nothing happens my last resort will be a WG . I will get it contact with some of you through PM, but nonetheless thanks again to everyone helping me out. If I do end up with a WG I will definitely return the favor and give a detailed report Also, @cheesosaurus that was one of the exact girls I had my eye on I'm also curious if anyone has had experience with her

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MothToAFlame   27-5-2016 22:04  Acceptance  +3   Hope it goes well
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   sik & cheese ... you guys are thinking with your dicks rather then your head !  

think of it this way ... for a first timer, dealing with a HG agent is a huge hassle, trying to reach the agent,
getting the run around for the hotel, waiting in the hotel lobby for the agent to reply - if they reply,
getting B&S which is more then likely for a first time client, if the HG is not the one and you refuse - what next ?
go through the whole process again with not guarantees ?

as he doesn't have much time in HK, HGs are not the best way to start one's punting life

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vinny5443   26-5-2016 21:15  Acceptance  +1   agreed!
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I too feel that maybe a WG isn't the best for a first timer. I know a girl can only give her virginity away one time (i don't count bornagain virgins), but that actually goes for guys too. I'm not saying to wait for marriage..,. But i look back at my first time (civvie one night stand), and i wish there had been more meaning behind it.

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Reply #12 twiceAweek's post

Also to add that the SOP of the hotel could be quite intimidating for a newbie/virgin. Times are exact and it can be hard to extend if you find a girl with great service because they will usually be booked throughout the day.
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My 2 cents

1. Agree with Twice that no need to force it now. I lost my V card a lot later in life than you.
2. Don't start with a Russian/European girl in HK unless you have found at least 5 stellar reports of her offering great service. Over half of the reports on Russians talk about cold attitudes and that's not the way you want to start.
3. I disagree with D'Art about picking up a bargirl. To me, that is the most intimidating manner of hooking up. It's much more public and you have to be confident and knowledgeable enough to get a good deal.
4. For walk-ups, there are certain girls that get a lot of customers and a lot of reports, so you could spend time researching and finding something there.
5. Sik's options are good, because TR Thai girls are usually pretty solid and the agent is good and easy to deal with. The main downside is what Vinny mentioned that it's a gamble for the 2nd pop. If you book a double session, it costs more, but you are covered and if you don't take the full time, then the girl gets a little break (nice for her). However, if you book 1 pop and go too quick, it could be difficult to get a booking for 2nd pop because his (best) girls will be booked. Also, better to book a day ahead- especially for TR girls.
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Darling 1 as dry heavenly option

No one ever thought of darling 1?!!  Its expensive but so worth it. Call in an advance to get the free room upgrade. Do a double and leave with a million memories!
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Originally posted by csschet at 25-5-2016 01:23 AM
Hi, I'm 22 years old and this is my last week in HK, after much thought and time spent on here reading all the FAQs and advice threads I'm around 90% sure I want to lose my virginity to a WG before I  ...

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