So I am curious if anybody on this forum has experience striking up private semi-relationships with WGs. What I mean is it can be anything from free sex/dating to discounted services because you are considered a long-time customer and/or friend. Obviously it could apply to walkups, where you exchange contact info, but also maybe sauna and bars girls, where you can strike up a private relationship that is cheaper because you can avoid sauna and bar fees.

Also, I would be interested in knowing of guys who have exchanged contact info with massage girls (who only do HJ) and then got them out in private to do FS. That kind of turns me on, dk why.

I remember when I went to a walkup and a WG wanted to start a relationship with me. She was quite hot but slightly older than me.. I am not sure whether it was a tactic or not and whether she says these things to everyone just to make them come back for more, or it could be just me thinking that.

I never went back since I don't think you will get discounted services haha, but prob "better" services

haha, for the record, i'm not looking to get into anything serious with a wg. I just like the idea of "getting more" or getting something "free" than what the average customer gets.

I have to warn you you're on a road to disappointment here ... you seem to be walking this path for the wrong reasons ...

Yes you can have a relationship with a girl, but NO relationship will ultiimately cost you less than P4P

If you want a relationship with a WG, do it for the GFE, do it for the skillful and open-minded sex, but don't do it to save money.  The girls who have already decided to trade in their bodies for money are especially skillful at cash extraction ...

Now, if you want the thrill of feeling a girl is so excited by your attractiveness and your sexual prowess that she wants to fuck you more than she wants money - rest assured, she understands your motivation and will give you that fantasy.  She knows how to play the game.  And THEN she'll get your money anyway
It's a bit like airmiles.  Always makes me chuckle when I see people getting excited about how many airmiles they've 'earned' ... they don't seem to realise who it is that actually paid for the "free" travel in the first place ...

The only thing you'll get 'free' are the replies in this thread !

anywhere in the world, east or west, developed or undeveloped ... when men look for women for relationship and sex, the man will be 'paying' one way or another !

some researcher in the Congo observed that female chimps have sex more often with male chimps that give them food

so this particular dynamic goes waaaay back

I have struck up good relationships with three, one of whom is now married, but she got a useless twat who thought an ex-WG would make his life like a movie, but he's hopeless in bed. She sees me sometimes to sate her desires, but I still dine her or give her money "for her mother", so we both remember the true basis of our relationship, as DArtagnan and Twice  note.
Sadly, you just seem to want freebies of some sort, but if the gal genuinely likes you, you can have brilliant sex and a good laugh together.

I had a completely "free" sexual relationship before.  It was back in 1986 or something.  Lasted 35 days.  She went back to her home planet shortly thereafter.

So..., there ya go.  It happens.

hehe.

Anyhoo...  the points are well-made and absolutely accurate.  But let's not discourage our OP punter friend.  A relationship with a WG can be an absolute blast!  The fact that BOTH of you know there is no chance it is going further than pure enjoyment makes your dates absolutely perfect.  You simply ENJOY each other and do what is fun together.  I have had quite a few of these relationships now, and damn! they were fun.  Enormous quantities of sex, a super-hottie on your arm for a weekend (or whatever) and no "real" strings attached.  Hell, only a couple ever even knew my last name - even after a few years of seeing each other weekly).   

The perfect girlfriend, you might say.

ya, i should rephrase.

Freebies would be nice, but that's not required. I'd also be happy to pay just as much but for much better quality and GFE.

One thing i've noticed is that i really enjoy the experience more if the girl actually likes me and is enjoying the sex. So i'm also open to striking up relationships where i still pay more or less the same but the transaction because less nakedly monetary, even if money is still the basis for it.

Hey, at the end of the day, even if the dollar amounts are still the same, if the quality increases, in economics terms that is still a net gain.

i know not to wife a wg, but it'd be fun to have a gfe wg regular - perhaps a true friend with benefit?

Well, if this is what you are after, and you live in HK, you are in luck, my friend.  Head to the Wanchai clubs.  Meet a WG you like, enjoy the nite together.  If your time was awesome get her digits and sms to meet up again.  The next time will be even better...  and better, and better... (until it gets worse because one of you is getting too serious).  Happens every time.  sigh.

You may not find that "perfect" fit the first time.  But dont give up.  In my time in HK (almost 5 years) I had many, many bargirl "girlfriends".  And it was a pretty damn special experience.  No place like it precisely for this reason.  (much harder in the US or ANY western country to create these kinds of WG relationships).  

So, go for it Bro.  Have fun.  

(and I posted on here about MANY of my Wanchai girlfriends (including one where I was the one who got too serious) so there might be some useful material there for you.

^ mad props for the advice bro. thanks for the point in the right direction.

now you're talking
just find a wg you like and have some chemistry with then do repeats with her until you're both comfortable with each other ... then go on from there

Me too

I was the toy boy

with perks

now you started talkin' sense

Girls are human, so yes, it's not only possible but EASY to have a WG GF.
Truth is they are 100% human ... but she CAN'T have a BF from outside the trade ... just too much at stake, so the ones that do take a civvie BF mostly seem to quit first or quit when they start dating for real.

Once you've chosen your girl, just show up as a BF.  
Invite her out
Find out when she has her day off, and offer to hang out
Text her during the day when she's working
Tease her about her work

all the usual stuff

Key is to pick one you genuinely do like
Then when she likes you, you both have fun

Oh, and watch out for the usual female drama stuff.  Just coz she started working as a pro, she didn't stop being a girl, and didn't lose her feminine programming ...

Well, this line, from Bro Dart, says everything i"ve been saying since Day 1 on this forum.

"Just coz she started working as a pro, she didn't stop being a girl"

Exactly.  They ARE just girls, in the end.., soft and sweet.  With a simple gentle approach you'll see how quick a "tough-girl" becomes her usual regular sweet girl.

And even if they ARE tough girls, and have seen everything, they often still WANT to be treated like your little sweet girlfriend.  It is fun to do so.  Fun for both of us.

Dartagnan's correct - by striking up a relationship, you either get it for "free" or you pay more, not less. The sex is much better though!

As has been said, find one you like and who you have good chemistry with and you'll be "dating" in no time. You will pay more but you will get alot more too including an amazing gfe that includes incredible sex. However, word of warning, don't fall in love.

what about older wgs? I've got a thing for milfs.

There is an old saying: what's the difference between a girlfriend and a prostitute? The prostitute is cheaper.