I was on another forum (not sex141) and one poster said that hotel walk ins should be avoided since most of the girls are from the mainland and are illegals. They also said that the police would leave you alone if you are a local while they would force you to make a statement, convicting the WG if you're a foreigner.

I'm not sure how the last part makes sense, but I was wondering if any of this is really true.

Thanks

CB

Working in hong kong, whether you are from Mainland, or any other country is illegal, if you don't have the right paperwork.

That last part sounds a little weird.. never heard of anyone being forced to make a statement if caught.

In hong kong a local HG is totally legal, thats if they have a HKID card, they just treat you as a one night stand, or a pair having it out.
Other than that some are legal and some are not, it depends on what passport they hold, but mainly targeted on people from china with 1-3 weeks stay.
As above not heard of the statement thingy.

They should allow up to 2 girls........ for 3 somes

ANY type of prostitution is illegal in HK - except 141 walk ups ... provided that these WGs have their HKID and provided that its one girl and one john in that room

What would happen if you were caught with an illegal?

every situation is different ... form nothing, to being taken to the station to make a statement

Not sure your answer makes a difference to your first question, but what do you mean by illegal?

The girl is doing illegal things or the girl crossed into HK illegally?

I mean being caught with someone who should not be working in HK. Thanks!

that's an uncharacteristically bit statement for you Twice!  

and actually not at all what the law says!!!

The law is very explicit, and only lists activities that are NOT allowed, including
  doing work without a work visa or permanent residence permit
  profiting from another person's sex work
  sex with underage people
  sex with mentally disabled people
etc.  

We do agree that paying for sex with a PRC girl or a bar girl on a Visitor Visa is illegal,
and that sex with a single girl at her own self-contained apartment (with no other people around) is legal.  

But what about bar girls who have a HKID?

Is there any case in HK where bar girls (with HKID) been deported back to home country?
Bar girls as if they are hired/sponsired by the bar employer?
I dont think i heard of any yet.



But my friend/colleague once had a indo maid, who goes to Wan Chai bars and online to pick up clients and earn extra buck ( dont ask how she was exposed and I didnt question much). Her parents being the legal employer at that time reported the incidents to authority.
The maid was sent home.
Maid in HK also be given a resident HKID.
So in her case, it is still illegal to undertake 2 income generating jobs; as a maid and part time pro, whilst the former was legal and the latter was subjective.

key point is it's not the sex that's illegal

she broke the law by doing work that is outside of the scope allowed by her DH employment contract and work visa.  If you're in HK on a work visa you are only allowed to do that one job, and if you change employers you get it authorised by the Immigration Department.  

Clearly they don't issue Work Visas for sex work!  

But it's not the sex work that is illegal: a girl with a HKID is allowed to exchange money for sex, as long as she does it alone.

I stand corrected ... but if anyone takes the statement 'prostitution is legal' in HK by itself then you'd be misleading them
... they will have to read up and understand the six ordinaces in law that relates to prostitution in HK.

Fair enough

I agree it's a minefield to answer!  

his question was "are hotel walk-ins illegal"?  And the only correct answer is "strictly no but actually yes most of them are". It's not a straight yes-or-no question.  

Having paid sex is in a hotel is not illegal - so, no, it's not.  For a permanent resident, adult, not under mental care, acting on her own without an agent, it's legal.  
But as we know the reality of the HG sex trade is that most of the girls giving sex for money in hotels happen to be non-locals allowed to enter HK on a Visitor Visa, which makes it illegal for them to work and for anyone to give them money for work.  

Perhaps we can say "prostitution in HK is legal but many of the prostitutes in HK are working illegally".  

Caveat emptor ...

When people ask this question, I honestly believe there's no proper answer to give them ... if the LE wants to get some WG (with or without ID) they will get her as they can use many different avenues that have not even been discussed here ! if the john happened to be with this WG then whatever happens will happen ...

asking this type of question is just like asking medical questions ... general answers are irrelevant ! ... for almost anything that is said to be safe, I can probably give examples that ahere are exceptions ...

This is why for newbies who are eager beavers and have no clue about punting in HK, the safest answer is to tell them to do walk ups who have IDs (yeah stupid ) after they spend more time on the punting scene and this forum they should learn pretty fast

I wrote about this quite some time ago.

I got busted by the cops in a a residential (non-WU) room with 3 foreign bargirl hookers!  One had a permanent ID (it was her place) while the two others where on tourist visas (IE:  illegal!)).  It was a noise complaint that brought them there and they banged on the door when all of us where still naked, rather smashed on more substances than just booze, and with the scent of said substance still filling the small apartment.

I thought I was totally fucked!  Visa-status, job, family!  Holy shit, I really fucked up this time!!!  

They took a statement.  Asked about my nationality and purpose in the room (I told them, honestly, that I was partying my ass off.  Hehe.)

And then they left.  With the advice to quiet down.



Man, my guardian angel had my back that day!

PS:  There is a lot more to that nite.  Man, what a nite!  One I will never forget.

What's this being illegal to have sex with the mentally ill!! Girls have sex with me all the time, and I pay them. Hope I'm not getting them into trouble!
Still as long as I'm clear from any charges due to my mental incompetence I guess I'll live with it.

As per the other posts, my understanding was generally if they are of legal age and it's 1 on 1, it is legal. Except if they do not have the right Visa etc.
I also thought that if they were working illegally we as the customer are in the clear, but the girl is not. However if they turn out to be underage you're royally fooked!

Has anyone ever asked to see a girls ID to be sure? I once had a HG that may have been borderline, was B&S by the agent and left.

nice reminder that was one of the top stories of the year ...


of course, you didn't pay them for sex, so nothing illegal about their presence there, right?!?

If you get busted then let it be in HK rather than China.  There they frown upon sex with someone other than your wife.  If they wanted to bust your chops then can put a black mark on your passport...