Subject: U.S. Businessman’s Chinese Legal Nightmare
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Post at 24-12-2012 17:16  Profile P.M. 
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U.S. Businessman’s Chinese Legal Nightmare

U.S. Businessman’s Chinese Legal Nightmare Includes Torture, Lawyers Say

And yet the terrible irony of this case is that Wus American citizenship offers him no protection because he entered China using his Hong Kong ID rather than his U.S. passport.

That fateful decision has allowed the Chinese government to ban all access from U.S. consular officials, since China does not recognize dual-nationality.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/art ... re-lawyers-say.html
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The implication is: if you have an HKID card and a US passport.  Do use the latter to enter China. You will enjoy more protections.
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Reply #2 temp19782005's post

Please forgive me for sounding stupid here...

I have a British Passport - I thought I had to actually use this regardless to enter China?

I also have a HKID.




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Post at 20-2-2013 22:26  Profile P.M. 
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You cannot enter China with a HKID card. You have to enter China with a Mainland Entry card or a passport.
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Mr. Wu was tempted by that common Chinese philosophy in life, 'must do things the fastest way, be efficient with time so I can have more time to play mahjong'...(snarky)

So instead of waiting for at least 30 mins to an hour to cross immigration with his passport, he would rather use his 'Return to Village' pass and stroll through immigration in 5 mins. How can we blame this guy because I am always envious of those who can walk fast through immigration while I stew in line at the passport control?
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Reply #5 doghead's post

Yeah, I use my HKID at HK side then my passport at China side.

I love going through with my boss as he has an APEC card and we can go through the special lane




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Reply #2 temp19782005's post

That is not always possible. My wife is dual national (HK and foreign) and could not get a China visa with her foreign passport as the issuing agency seemed to know that she has a home return permit. Once you have that you'll have to enter China without consular protection. Even my son (age 2) who never had a SAR passport was denied a visa and we've had to get an SAR passport and home return permit for him.
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Reply #7 saudi's post

I think the issue is that HK is part of China and China does not recognize multiple nationalities. Since your wife holds a Home Return Permit and possibly a SAR passport, China considers them her only 'valid' documents, the foreign one does not count.

I am guessing your son was born in HK which would mean he is an automatic HK citizen...citizen of China until you apply for a foreign passport for him.

I know people who qualify for the Home Return Permit, but do not get it because it would mean giving up their overseas passports which many are very reluctant to do so.
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