So, in recent days I've been meeting a Filipina bargirl and I'm starting to get somewhat emotionally attached. I think she is too however I am aware that it is her job to make me think that anyway. I'm curious what
experiences others have had in carrying on a relationship after the girl goes back home. Has anyone actually had a l serious (non professional) relationship with a WG? If so, how did it work out? The thought of getting serious with a WG is not
something I'd have ever considered (given the nature of her role), however, I am already justifying it to myself by thinking that this is her first trip and I met her on the first few days she was here so she's not that
much of a pro (if that makes sense).

Personally, I'm married so while I want to see this girl again the chances of anything serious are very slim unless I wanted to drastically change my life. If I wasn't married though things would be different and I'd probably already be planning a trip to the Philippines lol.

This article may help...
http://inpattayanow.com/2012/11/ ... ther-pattaya-girls/

Realize this is a Thai site, but the thoughts are the same.  

My thought is go ahead and fall in love.  The thrill makes you feel alive.  

But don't hurt her by giving false promises, and don't hurt yourself by fulfilling stupid ones.  

If she really loves you back, she won't want you to wreck your marriage or empty your bank account.  Think about that before doing either.

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Thanks for the link "But, she's different" is exactly it. No doubt a very common thought. So it's Saturday night and WanChai will be literally crawling with
hotties. Hooking up with the same girl more than a few times when there is such a plethora of talent to choose from is probably not a wise move on my part.

Bro, there are plenty of threads about this topic (though maybe hard to search).  Many a Bro has been down this path - myself included.  I love my little romances.  But they CAN get too deep.

The fundamental problem is trust.  You know too much about each other (you're a punter, she's a WG).  So you both always wonder what the other is up to.  So don't let it morph into an "exclusive" bf/gf thing.  They rarely work out.

wise words indeed..............

This one has bitten the dust already.....
She's spent the last few days trying to hit me up for money for a "visa run." Met her on Saturday against my better judgement. Had a great time, until we had a drunken argument about something that I don't even remember (I woke up and she'd gone). She would hardly talk to me for 2 days now every text/call has something about her needing money. The brief conversation we did have about the argument seems to have been something to do with this
"visa run." Starting to think the argument was because she started the process of asking for money that night. Pay for no play.

i also marry and have filippine girl friend, I remember she told me " I want a man who love me can stay with and and support me and my family". I can't. If you can then you can think about it otherwise give up.
It 's hurt.

I had a somewhat similar experience, i think, that also ended quickly. You want GFE, she wants money, fine, but if she isn't willing to rely on your generosity, then you don't get your GFE because getting nagged for money doesn't do it. She misplays her hand for reasons that you don't understand, and the whole thing turns sour quickly. (I say "you" but I mean "me" too.) Lesson learned? But I still think it should be possible to get a long-term regular who givs you GFE in return for presents, if you happen to find the reight person. Personally, I like having a regular instead of a new person every day.

Congrats.  Glad this ended before it was too late.  Wife, family, friends, and money could have been gone too.  Move on to the next punt.  Get back in the game.  Dont end the season.

Just because your regular asks for money doesnt mean she is trying to scam you...  but it is so hard to trust, right?

We know they are usually extremely poor, and with almost no backup to fall-back on.  In fact, THEY are usually the backup for their families.., that's why they are here and doing this work.  So their need could indeed be very genuine, and often the amount they need is rather small.  (I bet she asked for a few thousand HK for the visa run?).

Anyway, I have helped a few over the years.  And I never regretted it.  Their requests were genuine and never excessive, and their appreciation magnificent! (wink, wink).  That said, I have also said "no" when it didnt feel right.

You just need to trust your gut

Funny, I thought about your initial post regarding trust issues when things started to fall apart. You're a very wise man. I don't know how much she wanted for the visa run, she said something about money for her agent to china and some pocket money. Probably not much but the alarm bells were going off in my head and I got the impression she wasn't being straight with me (wouldn't answer my questions and wasn't as accessible as before). I've moved on and I'm glad I have. She still texts me wanting to know where I am but I rarely respond now and I don't tell her what I'm really doing. I really liked her but don't need the BS I've been getting
from her lately.

On the flip side, starting Sunday I've been hooking up with a really stunning Vietnamese girl   I had met a few days earlier. We had some technical (phone) issues which meant we lost touch for a few days but
thankfully we were able to reconnect. The irony being that the Filipina saga probably would never have happened had I been able to get in touch with this girl. What I have now is exactly what I had hoped for from the
other girl. I'm also a little bit wiser too.

Yeah, honesty is key and we can usually recongnize it when we see it.  If you have a hunch she's not being honest, or not transparent, than you are usually right.  You were very likely right to walk away.

But, this is not to say all cases are like this:

The times I've helped:
-- a regular gal with appendicitis.  A serious life/death thing.  Little time to think.  Reacted.  Helped.  Months later, upon her return, she showed me her scars from the operation.  (and she also showed me her undying appreciation! hehe).  To this day she still says she owes her life to me.  Ah, Bella.  Miss you.

-- Another very, very close regular who was beaten by a fucker-punter in HK.  Cost me a fair bit.  But she deserved the help.., such a wonderful sweet gal put into a horrible spot.  She showed me soooo many great times over several years there was no question I ws going to help.  She finally recovered from that and I saw her again almost a year later when she returned...  scars remain but still a stunner!! There is still much left undone between us....   more to come. Sweet gal.

-- one dumb-ass sister who found herself in prison for an overstay.  My gal's sister.  I owed her nothing!  But my gal...., well.., she's my gal.  How can I help?  It actually cost very little.., but made me a legend within her family!  haha.  That felt good.  A reward all by itself.

And a few more.  

In all the cases I gave funds it turned out to be "right".  Never a scam, never a lie.  

I see it as returning the Karma.  These wickedly beautfiful and hot babes are throwing themselves at me; treating me like a king; I will give back a little when it matters.  Make a differance in at least a few gal's lives.

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You've got me questioning my judgement now but I do think she's not been honest. She's been texting me the last hour or so about how she's going to be back tonight and wants to see me, that she needed a
favour from me yesterday etc yet I'm questioning that there is a visa run at all.

Oh well, it's my last night in HK. One way or another, I'm going out with a bang.

I guess this is due an update as there have been some developments.
Spent my last night with the Vietnamese girl I had mentioned and had a great time although I had this feeling of sadness in
the back of my mind that I was never going to see the Filipina again. She had wanted to see me on the last night but I just
ignored her. As I left HK she would text every so often and I would see she had tried to call my cell phone. I just couldn't
get her out of my head. Believe me, I tried, but I really missed her.

In the end I gave in. I just had to speak to her. She told me she missed me and of course I told her the same. We've spoken or texted each other every day since and I'm helping her leave HK (she needed some help to pay off her debt). She didn't
ask, I offered as getting her out of HK was what I always wanted. I am however aware they are masters at extracting dosh
from people so maybe it was all her plan.

Trust is still a huge issue and probably always will be but for now she is really happy to be leaving HK (in a couple of days) and she is very grateful for my help.  It was not an amount I could not afford so I was very happy to do it and for now I think I've done the right thing.

No idea what the future holds but the plan is to go see her in 6 to 8 weeks time, when it is safe to get away without arousing any suspicion with the wife.

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A tough one.  I obviously CANNOT come on here and suggest everyone fall prey to every sob-story one hears from a bargirl.  Hell, even if you believe the story is true noone made YOU responsible forher wellfare, right?  You paid your amount for the punt, right?  You don't owe her anything more.

All true.  And in general a good, simple rule to protect yourself.

But, just like helping a mate, you sometimes have gals you've got to know, spent a ton of time with, and the natural male "white-knight" instinct kicks in. You do care about her wellfare.  And helpingg, when it feels right, is rewarding all by itself.  (and they know this too... Men are simple beings).

The gals I have helped all rewarded me many, many times over.  And I felt good about helping.  I still do. Kinda feels like I've given back to the "community".  Earned some Karma.  

But that said.., there ARE a million sob-stories out there.  There are a billion scams.  So.., it goes toinstinct and gut.

So.., enjoy the feeling of doing a good deed.  What comes around goes around.

Wanna know if your girl is shitting you, become good friends with one of her friends.  You would not believe the intel I have received after I became friends with one of my GF's best friends.  I would occasionally get lied to by my GF and I usually knew it in the beginning.  It was just part of the territory.  Her friend was really only looking out for the best interests of my GF because she knew that I would be a good person for her to be involved with so she would feed me pertinent information to make sure things kept moving in the right direction.  To this day she has no idea that her friend and I communicate on a regular basis.  In turn I help her friend out with a relationship she has with her boyfriend by giving her advice and such.

It has really opened my eyes to the lives that some of these girls live.  Of course I blame Wander for all of this because he got me addicted.  LOL!!  I have traveled the world, and a Filipina is just a rare woman.  Ganda, Malibog and oh so sweet.  I fell in love long ago with mine and hope we can turn it into something special in the future.  

She has come all the way clean with me now because we have known each other for so long, but for you guys just getting started with a filipina, remember "Trust But Verify"!!!!!!!!!!  I have met many of them through my GF and you would not believe some of the stories I hear from these girls.  So many are working an angle or two.  Remember, I am getting the real story because I have been accepted into their lives, not the story they tell their customers.  If you can look past the initial bullshit and lies that are almost always present in the beginning, they can become one of the greatest treasures in this world.  They really want to care for a man and love him deeply.  I am still amazed at the things my GF does for me without me even bringing it up.  Sorry if we have any on this board, but a large majority of Filipino men are just shit.  They treat these girls like shit and that is why so many of them turn to men from other countries.

Oh did I mention the sex?  Out of this world and they want it everyday, multiple times a day.

I also have a story.  In the last month I have started seeing a Indonesian girl working in HK.  A DH which I met in Neptune. We constantly talking online everyday, first thing in morning last thing at night.  She is great, younger than I but really loving and true.

I;m married and about to have a child.  My life is complicated enough without her but I am drawn to her constantly and she gives me alot of what I don't have with my wife.  It's dangerous territory for me and not sure what or where to turn at this moment.

I go to HK every 3-4 weeks and only see her on Sunday and short periods.  I don't think she is playing me but we do have a connection and she seems genuine looking for love.  She knows my situation and though doesn't like it accepts it.

Not sure how this will turn out (fighting at the moment as I said I didn't want her to turn fat and her reaction was to love her for whatever reason!).  Let's see in time what might happen but I don't want to change when I have a child on the way even though my marriage is reasonably loveless.

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Amazing what 24 hours brings with love!  She is now saying to choose one or the other!  It's only been 4 weeks we have been seeing each other!!!! It's way too soon to start this and she is already wanting a change.  We have hardly had time to get to know one another and she is wanting more.

Now no contact till decision is made.

I miss her already......

What should I do?

1. breathe a sigh of relief at a bullet dodged
2. go find the next one!!

... I dunno if this is experience is consistent with other guys, but I find that they get better and better as time goes by ... each one better than the last, to a degree that I couldn't imagine until it actually happens ... but you can't get the next one in until the last one has self-destructed and left a space behind her ...

I assume almost all regular punters who are half "nice" guys have fallen or nearly fallen for a WG. As has been stated, this forum is littered with stories such as these and Fil girls are amongst the most skilful. I saw a documentary on Cable TV about WGs in the Philippines (although I imagine it also happens elsewhere).

There are girls who go spend all day in internet cafes talking on line to guys they have met at various locations, each guy led to believe "HE" is the only one. Yet the same story about the sick nephew, the flood stricken apartment, the sister who needs a blood transfusion gets repeated over and over and over... One girl often having 20 or more guys on the go at one time!

The illusion that we (us punters and the WG/DH/whoever) are falling in love can be fun. Easy to see why we are attracted to the prospect. Can it be real? yes of course... but only very rarely.

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