Hi all,
I'm new to this forum and new to any massaging or similar service.
My question might sound (or seem) quite naive, silly or even stupid to most of you,
but it's a serious one and i'd appreciate some help here.
I'm not in HK. But my girlfriend is.
And I'd like to offer her a sensual, erotic girl to girl massage.
A girl like the ones I'm seeing in the DB here.
Are there such options ?
Is there a way to find a masseuse for girls here ? or somewhere else ?
Any info from experienced people like you would help.


Thanks in advance and please be kind
It's really a serious question

As the older posts will tell you, girl on girl is tough here.  If it were me, I'd go shopping for a girl advertising "Tantric" services since they tend to be more open minded about that stuff.

If i were u, i wouldn't do that. For God Sake, especially if i love my girlfriend so much.
i know that u have good intention, to give her surprise or to satisfy her or another intention,
but it can lead to some affairs.

it's possible that u could change her sexual orientation, or anything else.

sorry to post reply to wrong person

[ Last edited by  SilverBird at 30-8-2011 19:41 ]

I can see ordering one for my girlfriend if you think she could be into it...but why would you order her one and not be there in person to watch and maybe slide in on the action!

I suggest you ease her in gently - offer her a male erotic massage session first.  

I am available Mon-Thur between 12:00 noon and 2:00pm.  First session 500HK$.

Then, after she's comfortable with the whole "erotic massage" thing, suggest she try it with a second person in the room. Another girl the first time, so she's not shy). So bring her and her sister to me (sessions where I must service 2 girls is HK$750.  ($2,500 if the sister is over 40 or weighs more than 150lbs).



To be serious:  Maybe try Craiglist Hong Kong?  I am sure if you ask for this you'll get LOTS of replies.

I service 2 girls for free already so i don't see why should i pay you.


seriously now and to all:
The point is that she IS into that.
I wouldn't try or suggest or offer or (use an appropriate verb here) without being sure first that she would have lot of fun.
I've seen a couple of photos here in the DB of girls having girls on their bed
and some others saying "men and women welcome"
but i'm not sure on how far she would go (the Pro, not my girl)
I want her to go far but not too far.
@ TheButler. Is there a searching option in DB ? or should i check all the girls one by one ?
@ SilverBird.  My girl is native chinese hker but she s also very open minded and she has already experiences in this field.
                   So its pretty safe for both of us. The problem is not to find another girl.
                   The problem is that i want to offer her that knowing she will love it.
@nyc101.      I was already in the action so I really don't mind her having some action as well without me.

The 'tantric' option sounded great to me. Since i m not looking for hardcore action (strap-ons etc).
Just some sensual pleasure for her.

Thank you all for your posts and if you have any other suggestions don't hesitate.
NOT YOU Wander. I wont send you my gf. Forget it.

And no she doesn't have a sister. But if she had I assure you she wouldn't be overaged and overweighted.
;)

I service 2 girls for free already so i don't see why should i pay you.


seriously now and to all:
The point is that she IS into that.
I wouldn't try or suggest or offer or (use an appropriate verb here) without being sure first that she would have lot of fun.
I've seen a couple of photos here in the DB of girls having girls on their bed
and some others saying "men and women welcome"
but i'm not sure on how far she would go (the Pro, not my girl)
I want her to go far but not too far.
@ TheButler. Is there a searching option in DB ? or should i check all the girls one by one ?
@ SilverBird.  My girl is native chinese hker but she s also very open minded and she has already experiences in this field.
                   So its pretty safe for both of us. The problem is not to find another girl.
                   The problem is that i want to offer her that knowing she will love it.
@nyc101.      I was already in the action so I really don't mind her having some action as well without me.

The 'tantric' option sounded great to me. Since i m not looking for hardcore action (strap-ons etc).
Just some sensual pleasure for her.

Thank you all for your posts and if you have any other suggestions don't hesitate.
NOT YOU Wander. I wont send you my gf. Forget it.

And no she doesn't have a sister. But if she had I assure you she wouldn't be overaged and overweighted.
;)

Are you sure you want to open the door to the whole paying for sex thing.

Once she realizes that you are buying her sex, she will realize you are probably buying sex for yourself, otherwise how would you know about this???

I would think she would always suspect your out mongering.

Hey, I'm just saying.

Che'lu

Bro, if you're pysched about this opportunity based on the photos you see on the database, then prepare to be disappointed as most of these photos are heavily photoshopped. I think when this topic was last brought up (and it has been brought up many times), bros would recommend you to go to Wan Chai to pick up a freelancer and just get her to do the massage. The girls are from SE Asia, and are more down with girl to girl.

One thing to clear.
I m not buying her "sex". And honestly I've never paid for sex in my life.
At least not in the term which is used commonly.
Cause many people say that every man pays a woman but most of them call her wife or girlfriend.
And we had sex with other girls before.
What I want now is to offer her something more sensual than an ordinary massage which she loves.
By a pro. Not by a sex partner.
As i said i don't want to pay a girl to F her. Thats for me to do.
I just want something more than ordinary.

@ Chelu:    we re very open in talking about sex. I m sure she loves my idea and she wouldn't think of anything beyond that.
@ xavierkk: i m sure that many girls are more or less far from reality. But the first concern is someone who offers this service.
                Of course I wouldn't send her the Wander's description (over 40 and 150 lbs) lol. But I'm not looking of a top model either.
                Big boobs is a must though. My girl loves them.

P.S. Forgive me for not being comfortable with your terms and "secret" code here. All these shortcuts give me a headache. Is there a link with explanation on what each shortcut means ? Some can be identified but some is really a pain in the butt.

A question to the OP, how did you find out about your gf's sexuality?

Did you ask her or was she open about it and just tell you one day she's messed around with girls before?

My wife (HK girl) is the same, she is attracted to girls but is still very traditional minded and feels shy about it.

I'm looking to gently ease her into the notion, but haven't really took it to the next step.

After a long long typing the post disappeared.
So lets go again.

I don't think there is one.

First of all I want to make clear that I m not experienced in chinese girls.
I ve met less than 10 so far.
Everything I type here come from my personal point of view by talking to these girls in person or online.

From the moment I met her I didn't pretend to be a nice guy.
I told her i m very dominant, very open minded, very greedy and active sexually.
In other words a dirty foreigner.
So she would have to accept what I am or not.
And of course the reason i chose her was not just she was beautiful and smart but also the feeling she was quite submissive.

Till this moment I dont believe that "tradition" thing.
Women are curious by nature, more than men. Check in Wikipedia the Pandora's Box and you will understand.
China is "traditional" the last 60something years, and not so "traditional" the rest thousands of years.
So i d say that this 60 years is not a tradition, is more like a habit.
The whole sex-toy arsenal is based on many chinese inventions.
How traditional is that ?
China even has a "sex-museum" outside Shanghai. even though only a handful of chinese know about it.
I guess this is part of their "tradition" too.

Chinese women are supposed to have specific values.
Family oriented, nice, polite, smily blah blah blah.
The word "sex" is usually next to the word "sin", "guilt", "dirt", "filth" etc
In my opinion its far from reality.

Thats how they want to look to others. Not how they really are.
Get a chinese girl, traditional, well educated, with a very good job in some big company and with a good salary,
find her buttons and she will be a sex slave.

The tough part is to understand if she really wants to do things in sex or not.
The toughest part is if you can handle a lose canon. Can you deal with the possibility of her asking more and more ? And probably things you dont like at all ? Think of that.

I didnt want to make her do thigs for me.
I wanted her to express herself sexually and not be repressed by this stupid "tradition".

The hardest part wasnt actually to make her understand that thinking about touching a girl is not a sin or something dirty.
But to trust me enough to let me be very very close to her gorgeous ass.
And i really mean a gorgeous ass equal to a latin girl's one.
I think, and please correct me here if i m wrong, that anal sex is really a filth for chinese
(and maybe lots of other asians)
Well, she still feels guilty even she loves anal sex.

So, after that, admitting she s curious about girls was much easier.
She still wouldn't make a move, even though she said many times how much she likes big boobs.
Untill one day I was telling her how beautiful is she that she attracts both men and women and she insisted she doesn't.
I told her I could easily find one to prove her wrong and she said ok.
The plan now was to find the correct girl.
Pretty and submissive with big boobs and preferably not chinese (I don't speak chinese and so i wouldn't be able to control the situation)
Not extremely pretty though, to make her a danger (at least not at the first time).
Women dont really like the fact that they might lose their privileges.
So since she was sure about me and since she knew how much i love her, it was a bit easier to open up some more.
Another factor is their privacy. HK is not a village of course, but still girls dont like the idea that someone could even possibly imagine they do something "dirty". So its essential, that 3rd girl to be under some kind of control. And for all of the above reasons I concluded that a submissive girl is the best choice.
A woman must be sure she has control over the situation.
She likes the other girl ? She can go on.
She doesnt like her behavior ? She can kick her ass out.
I made her feel and kept repeating that this 3rd girl belonged to her. Not to me.
She could do whatever she wanted with her.
She liked that mistress-slavegirl role even though she s submissive to me.
I also showed her i m not interested in that girl.
She wanted me to participate ? fine.
She wanted to be alone with her ? fine too.

Sorry guys but after several drinks at a party i m not really able to go on.
DAMN i shouldbt have lost the previous post.
See you later. Not much later I hope.

Psyxiatros-
Sounds like you have it all figured out.  Best of luck.  I truly hope it works out for you.

The only small chink in the armor is that usually what a girl says is not what she is trying to tell you.  Baffling but true.

As they say "you don't know til you know".     

Che'lu

PS you should try paying for sex sometime, it is very liberating

@ chelu

you can never figure everything out. And yes sometimes its just a matter of pure luck.
I agree about the "what girl says..." part but I think its not bad from time to time for all of us to think why a girl says one thing and mean another.
As I said in the previous post there s not a golden rule. And usually when you "plan" to do something it doesnt work out finally.
In my case with all the previous relationships it probably worked because I never planned it and never demanded it (even i m the dominant one).

As for the paying sex.
I m sure that if we start talking about that it will go very far.
In brief.
Where I come from 3 types of men pay for sex.
Those who love paying.
Those who cant do it free.
And those who can do it free but they dont get what they want for free.
I dont belong to any of these types.
And frankly you ll hardly find a dominant man to pay for sex or for other services.

Has she ever been with another girl? If not start slow. And why pay for it. Take her to a club where there are lots of women and maybe the club has a lez leaning. Women like to dance together. Maybe start with that. Women like to bond first and thats a good way to do it...socialize...a few drinks...... some dancing and touching and ........

Quote: "And frankly you ll hardly find a dominant man to pay for sex or for other services."

Ummmm, WTF!?!  I am now convinced you are full of shit!

Most men here pay hookers for DISCRETION!!  Many of us have longtime spouses, and have kids, and the risks of a civilian girlfriend are waaaay higher than just screwing a hooker!!  

I screw hookers because it is super convenient, fast to score (no "chasing" or courting required - we have little time for this), plenty of awesome talent,  and when we're done I don't have to worry about her following me home, calling me at home, etc.

It sure as hell is not for ANY of the reasons you listed.  You'll find A LOT of Bros punt for a similar reason.

Oh, and you other reason listed:  "Cause the LOVE paying".  Again -- WTF??!?  No one LOVES paying for sex - we love sex.  Which planet did you arrive from?

[ Last edited by  wander at 2-9-2011 12:24 ]

First of all dominant men who are involved in bdsm relationships, hardly pay for sex.
Paying is not really the reward a submissive girl should have.
Of course there are some exceptions thats why i said "hardly".

Now if you (or anyone else) consider a dominant man someone who pays a pimp or a girl to beat the shit out of her, then i m sorry i will disappoint you but this is not a dominant man. It s a pathetic lowest life form who just express his rage to a girl who has to do it by force or because it will give her some extra bucks.

I m far from that.

In case you didn't read what I wrote, I will repeat it
"WHERE I COME FROM 3 types of men pay for sex"

I don't know who is full of shit
A man who does what he loves to do in sex with his gf/fiance/wife
or a man who seeks the perfect sex with anyone else but his gf/fiance/wife.

If most men here pay hookers for discretion, as you say, then it means they dont get what they want from their regular partners (if they have any).
Ooooops.
Thats type no 3
"Those who can do it free but they dont get what they want for free."
Now if you want to convince me that my spouse is a sex bomb and in sex she s equal to a pornstar
but i still go out there paying hookers then hmmmmmmmm I think I really need a shrink.
OR i just love to pay for sex.
If you still think nobody loves to pay for sex all you have to do is start a post in this forum.
Saying nobody loves to pay for sex means nobody loves anal sex or nobody loves a blowjob.

The bottom line is you can express your opinion freely but I really dont understand why you got mad.

@ JJJ37 Yes she s been with girls before. As *TheButler* suggested I m doing a search about Tantric services in HK, trying to figure out which one will be the best for her. I know I cant rely on photos. And I m reading posts in this forum about what if the girl doesnt match the requirements.

Any help on Tantric masseuses is welcome.


P.S. I m not a model and I dont have a huge dick that all women would love to feel. In other wods I m not showing off. I dont need that. I m a simple man who just never felt like paying for sex so far (i dont know what will happen in the future).
I dont judge anyone who does that as I will never judge any woman who gets paid for sex. What you do in your life and with your money is not my business at all. You dont have to accept my opinion. But my job (the last 20 years) has to do with lots and lots of people specially women. I cant say I understand them totally but my ears are always open and i keep trying.
My native language is not english so please forgive any syntax errors (I hope the spelling feature of this editor helps for the grammar ones).

How many kids do you have?  How many years have you been living with your SO?  Oh, and where exactly DO you come from?  Daycare?

You are on the wrong forum, mate - this one is about PAID SEX with hookers.  Didnt you notice?   

Anyway, who the hell said anything about beating up hookers?  You are more of a whack-job than I thought!

[ Last edited by  wander at 3-9-2011 08:45 ]

I commend you on your upfront and direct method of commencing a relationship.  You won't get every girl to sign up for that, but the ones that do are already admitting their willingness to experiment.  It takes some balls to go to the party with an "I'm a bastard" sign on your forehead instead of the usual, "I'm a nice guy" sign.

Anyway, I've had, and continue to get, plenty of civilian tail, but like Wander sez; P4P is both liberating and empowering AND convenient!   There's nothing so therapeutic as getting off a long plane ride and then just waltzing into the sauna for a rub down and blow job.  Or doing a quick bar pickup on the way to your hotel with a cute little thing that is going to treat you to her finest skills no questions asked.  It is absolutely mind blowing how well it all works.  

Good luck with introducing your submissive GF to anal-doggy-style-DT-DATY-girl-on-girl-felching   wish I was thereto see it.    You mentioned that you want to find a sub girl for your girl's first time.  I would think about that again.  It's hard to know everything just from a few posts, but it sounds like your girl (when it comes to sexual adventurism) requires a certain level of reassurance and a slightly dominant personality leading the way.  This is not abnormal at all.  In many senses it helps the girl get past the sense that she's 'bad' because she's doing something 'naughty.'  If it's not 'her' idea, if someone else 'made' her do it, then most girls don't feel guilty or reticent about the act.  IMHO anyway.