Hi,

I was just wondering, since this website has many chinese background people.
Does anyone here practise Taoist Method of Sex? Such as semen retention, avoiding and delaying ejaculation.

Here's a little background on how i came to practise this art.
I used to have really low energy, a weak voice, fatigue, etc, and it was due to I suspected at that time that I masturbated everyday since I was 12.
Ok maybe I was those frail kinda guy who loses some semen and go pale and sleepy.
But by 18 I knew I had to break the habit because ejaculating everyday was affecting my studies. My concentration was getting short, I was depressed, tired all of the time, no energy to do things. feel frustrated etc.

When I was 24 I read a book called "Tao of Sex" by Jolan Chang (he is from HK by the way). It talked about the Taoist method of sex to prolong health and how to be a stud in the bedroom. Once I learned it from several other books and mastered the art, my health improved tremendously. I regained my vitality.

Basically, the Taoist method is this, if a man can withhold ejaculation, he can learn (with training and practise) to be multi-orgasmic, and at the same time improve his health. At the same time he can drive his woman wild in bed by making her cum many times. I have had many gf before, and I can make them cum more than 2x most of the time. My recent gf, there was once I made her come more than 5 times in 1 session, and she was like "Oh my god, you're so powerful". And I did it with her everyday.

The author Dr Stephen Chang is one example. There is a video of him on the internet, when he was 80, he talked and looked like a 50 year old man. He was full of energy and vitality.

Any brothers here practise the same art?

between this and your recounting of picking up a girl off the street; why do you seem so eager to tell us about your great skills with women?

cut him some slack man. sure it might seem haughty to promote his 'skills' but well, he provided some information worth reading.

Just saying, that's all.
It's like every time he mentions a girl, it's followed by either him describing how amazingly hot she was or how amazingly goodhe was in bed with them.

understand where you're coming from. well, take it with a pinch of salt if you find things too incredulous. this is after all, an online forum. as for tshirt's taoist method, maybe he had to highlight his prowess to showcase the method's supposed effectiveness?

Some may be more familiar with the Indian equivalent Tantric sex which is a practice  from the Tantra Philosophy/Religion.

Atleast one technique is to concentrate on how it feels for your partner, with practice you feel what your partner feels*, effectively a positive feedback loop. The end result is you do what feels best for your partner and get to enjoy her orgasms without the down side of ejaculation. The non ejactulatory orgasm is different for me, like a wave of pleasure rolling up your back before crashing over your head. *words fail to describe the indescribable and that is close as I can put it.
"I feel you you feel me": Enigma sums it up pretty well.

Doesn't work with all partners only those who are willing to enjoy themselves and share (hard to put but some woman just dont let you feel (inc LT GF BB)) while a times with total strangers you feel every twitch.

Can turn casual encounters into a bit of a head fcuk

Interesting book from the female practitioners perspective, bought my copy in Singapore so its "Rate Family Safe "
The Sexual Teachings of the White Tigress: Secrets of the Female Taoist Masters

In the context of seeing WG's
Condoms make it more difficult (no an excuse for BBS).
If you are still at it after 45mins many WG are not going to be impressed.
WG work for money and while many may well enjoy an orgasm or two with clients, this is up to a point. Give a WG 5 orgasm as you suggest and with aching back, stomach, leg and arm muscles she is not going to be in the best shape to see another 4 or 5 clients, . Many will take the perspective that this is 3 times the effort for the price of one client. If they want to be screwed out of their minds they know plenty of talent to select from, at a time of their choosing.

In a way it's like taking a rental car rally driving.

If you plan to do this sort of thing LT bargirls are the ones who are most likely to be receptive, ST girls (especially early 20;s) tend to hate this.  Zavier Hollendar goes to great length to explain in her book "happy hooker", her pet hate is guys trying to impress a WG and wearing her out in the process.

There was an passionate plea on a forum requesting whoever was turning up to a particular boutique  Asian establishment and banging the girls non stop for an hour, to stop (the area suggested a drug user and not a taoist master), the guy was almost crying on the keyboard.

There is a dark side to all this, which  I glimpse in my self at times. Egotist with a need to impress, can twist into revenge* for all the girls that ignored you in the past when was skinny and covered in pimples. *
Now you will never forget me kind of twisted logic
I struggle in many posts to keep my ego out of it (yes I fail miserably at times).


The following is an example of how they may see the time should play out in 45mins
New girls in Brothels often work off the clock for their first few sessions until they get use to the rhthym
45mins
5min shower
5min warm up
10 min BJ (often divided up into sub tasks)
10min Sex (1min ACG, 2min CG, 5 min missionary, finish in doggie)
5 min clean up and snuggle
5 min shower
last 5mins he has already gone
I have seen them keep glancing at the clock and switch activity several times in a session as the digital clock ticks over on the minute.

[ Last edited by  HenryMiller at 1-2-2011 10:19 ]

He's not the only one to show off and look for approval, and frankly the forum would be lacking in balls if we expect everyone to be a model of humility.  As long as he's not putting others down, let him show his personality, and let him contribute before slapping him down

I was merely describing what the Taoist method can achieve...
That's also wrong and not permitted in this forum? also according
to wasabi I'm not even allowed to saw "how hot" a girl is. If I didn't think she was hot, why would I choose her?

Henrymiller, u r right,some wgs tend to complain if I do it too long usingthe method.

[ Last edited by  tshirt at 2-2-2011 09:14 ]

But I was merely describing what the Taoist method can achieve...
That's also wrong and not permitted in this forum?

share your experience bro

if others are jealous, don't sweat it

Funny you guys should mention non-ejaculatory orgasm...
I guess I had a Taoist moment by accident the day before
your post. I'd gone for a massage and HE. The massage
was great, and I'd heard good things about her HJ, so
was looking forward to it. She started to do her thing,
and little bro started to get fairly stiff. But five minutes
into it, I got the feeling I was going to explode. Instead
of cumming all over her well-oiled hands, however, I had
a brief spasm of pleasure, not a big O by any means, and
it felt as though the semen backtracked before finding
the exit. Is this what you guys are talking about? Anyway,
she kept going at full speed, and this went on for a good
20 to 25 minutes. Little bro was hard as a rock, which he
wouldn't be if I had ejaculated, and it was a mixture of
pain and pleasure. I had to stop her, as it appeared I
wouldn't come (again?). Time was running out, and I
didn't want to pay for a third hour. The funny thing is
that although she's clearly a seasoned practitioner of
the HJ, she seemed none the wiser (I'm pretty sure
she would have stopped wanking me if I had ejaculated).

Then today, for the first time, I felt that the HG I was
with was coming or as close to it as I'd ever seen. I'm
usually pretty skeptical when the girl feigns pleasure,
but this one was pretty green and not a moaner, and
in fact she seemed to be making her soft, whimpering
sounds involuntarily, against her efforts to resist doing
so, and showing classic signs of loss of control. The
clincher was when she began to relax and start asking
questions about myself, including how come I wasn't
tired yet (it was about 35 minutes into our session,
and I was merrily, though gently, still f^cking her).
In the event, I didn't come, though she tried to jerk
me off in the shower at my request.

One thing both sessions had in common was that I
had taken a partial C (1/2 the first time and 3/4
the second) ahead of each one. I've found that C
does assist in achieving an erection, but it also
helps to maintain it, and so can have a cockblocking
effect.

Several marketers of C based products claim that it increases the time to orgasm, and personally I experience that if I use C based products C (re badged herbal extract product out of China mainly C).  I sometimes take them as insurance against a bad CBJ which tend to make me shrivel up in disappointment (also I am no spring chicken and have a caffine addiction).

If your O was around hers or even as a result of her pleasure ramping in up, then you experienced what is the essence of Trantric (and I assume taosit) sex, a glimpse of the one true shared experience. Other wise it was a pleasant side effect of C.
Sounds a bit of both, C increasing your thresh hold allowing you to feel her without it taking you straight over the edge.
Often what takes men over the edge  is the rush of blood to the Virgina as the girl starts to really get into it, this especially true with WG with whom more often that not it is a rather cold start KY adds to the initial coolness.


I find regardless of whether it is due to C, self control or some esoteric method, there comes a point at which you have to make a run for home while you still have enough petrol in the tank.
This is especially true with C and the esoteric method, while with self control you are more likely tittering on the edge. C has a tendency of reducing the sensation in long sessions requiring a furious finish if left too long, this is not something the younger WG appreciate though plenty of the MILF love it. With the esoteric method you have to switch back to feeling you and if you leave it too late you can find you lack the energy to complete.

I am always happy enough if I don't ejactulate becuase of one of the above reasons, though I would rather I ejactulate. I find that girls think you are a bit weird for being in that goey happy state without ejactulating, many WG seem to like to see cum at the end of the DOM as a sign of job complete.

There are times though during self control I find I can kill the whole thing if I start to ejactulate and managed to stop it, I end up going soft with out orgasming.

Taoist Method follows the logic that youth is carried in the sperm and therefore retention means more youthful energy. I think Trantric has similar logic justifying not ejaculating. I like to ejactulate; I am not a follower of the philosophy's  per say (I have my own) I just know some of the techniques and am enough of a hippy to understand/except the symbolism.

To put the non ejaculation focus in modern focus to put it in context. Many cultures shun condoms today this day as they are interfering with the work of the Gods (no not just catholics I wasn't even thinking of them when I started the sentence ). More than 1000 years ago you would need some justification for not completing an act that was being undertaken for the good of your clan (a Clans survival relies of procreation). So with the advent of condoms, the pill, and surgery, ejactulation no longer has the same down side and clans no longer have such a strong hold over us, as to deny us sex for the sake of pleasure.

I dont not believe the claimed health benefits are from ejactulation retention, the exercises, meditation provide some health benefits but ultimately there is no better exercise for the body than prolonged sex.

While I am a little un sure how the taoist method works, the method I mentioned which is part of an ensemble of techniques that is Trantic. The practice not only involves the extension of the time taken to orgasm but feeling your partners orgasm as if it was your own, I would assume Taoist method has similar features.

[ Last edited by  HenryMiller at 3-2-2011 09:54 ]

Hi miester n henrymiller
I agree with henrymillers description that the multi orgasm feels like waves of high pleasure. Basically I getthe high energy tingling feeling in my heart n chest, and also pleasure in the penis n prostate, but withoutthe prostate pumping the semen out . It's a feeling that you can maintain for a long time.
I find that whenever I avoid ejaculation for more than2 weeks, I start to look and feel more energetic n younger. Literally the eyes n face looks a few years younger , more vitality.

i can see why you would feel younger and have more energy.  it's because you're not draining all your energy by ejaculating. But how does that make you look younger too?  I wonder if there's a scientific explanation for that.

Hi I think it's because one factor pol look older is when they are enervated, drained of energy, lack of nutrient , stress etc. Eg. If u r in a long period of stress u can notice eyes look duller , dark bags n wrinkles, skin dryer n lack of energy which makes the person look older. But if they catch up on rest m rejuvenate they can regain vitality m youthful look.

With semen retention, u r keeping the energy n nutrient in your body . 1 drop of semen = 80 drops blood according to yoga tradition.

Personally I find good sex makes me look younger.

As it is with most things in life "whatever works for you".

2 points

While neither the Toaist or rely on mechanical methods, mechanical Sperm retention can have some nasty side effects.

Mechanical as in Pressure applied to the bit between the anus and testicles, holding the testicles down away from the base of the penis, cock rings and clinching you anus muscles.
The problem is you can miss fire and have a retrograde ejaculation, this causes damage, these methods are great for delaying but not for stopping.

Some studies have shown regular masturbation dramatically cuts the risk of prostate cancer, the most interesting thing about the study was regular intercourse did not have an effect, only regular masturbation (regardless of whether having regular sex).

I most admit I was perplexed when I read this, becuase Timothy Leary died of prostate Cancer and I always thought him a bit of a wanker (though an interesting one).

For me this shines some cultural light, makes me wonder what cum is in sanskrit

cum        精液           dzIng1 yIk6 (sperm)    Lit.  energy juice

taken from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandarin_Chinese_profanity
A site I found through this site.

The  White Tigress: female sect  use cum mixed with saliva as an anti aging cream, the penis is the applicator(bush) and the mouth the mixing bowl.

Lol, maybe next time u come in the gal face u should chrge for the beauty treatment! Anti ageing cream!

From all reports  "oral pleasure"* from a White Tigress is a priceless experience as she makes sure your energy juice is fully charged before reliving you of it.

*Seems almost sacrilegious to say BJ