The majority of the reviews make the rather improbable claim that the prostitute herself reached orgasm during the author’s session – often multiple times.
from  http://www.timeout.com.hk/feature-stories/features/38403/getting-laid-online.html

This is sentiment is a commonly discussed thread on forum lists.

So here are my thoughts on the matter

A few reviewers may tell a white lie or two, while others whole heartedly accept a girls fake orgasm as the real thing, yet all the same I feel that the majority are telling the truth(as they see it) and some with many years of punting are going to pretty good at sensing an act (if they bother). I think it is pretty ludicrous to think WGs don't enjoy the sex at least some times, perhaps the question is really is it that often?

The myth espoused that WG dont get to enjoy the sex, sees punters as a fat old smelly businessman, convenient lie as decent men wouldn't want to visit WG when they can get a 'nice girl'. The lack of enjoyment of course suits the belief they are all forced into the work out of necessity.   Mixture of Puritanical crap and self righteous "how I would feel".

Reviews are a very skewed sample
People cherry pick the encounters they write up. Long reviews tend to be divided between bad and brilliant service, yet while service is also at times presumably average, it is quite under represented in reviews.
Basically this is because if a nice sweet girl gives a nice act but no more than an act, there is no excuse to write about  her giving bad service, yet not really memorable to write up. Generally the so so reviews come out as an afterthought as in "oh yeah I saw her but we didn't click."


YMMV Your Millage may Vary
Some punters are obsessed with sex and are good at it. In the course of several decades of punting they may have played "Find the Erogenous Zones", "What's your Ryhtm" and other similar games with hundreds of different woman (some even thousands).

Punters
Punters especially regular or long term punters are not representative of the general population.
Readers and writers on review sites are more canny punters than the general population and there fore their (selective) reports of their experiences do not include the ripoff establishments and hustlers as they are generally above the obvious end.


WGs
Lastly and not least WG are not representative of the general population.
Most of the girls who have a taboo repressed thing about sex are not going to contemplate being a WG.
I am not going to even pretend to understand what things may weight in a womans mind, but I am pretty sure she is going to have to be comfortable with her own sexuality.


In reality the WG who last the longest are the ones who enjoy them selves, those that try and block it out, dont belong, they are the ones that really suffer (drugs drink depression). If a WG doesn't feel shame or guilt, why the hell wouldn't she enjoy herself.

[ Last edited by  HenryMiller at 28-1-2011 16:02 ]

haha, this is something alright!

Ans. to your Qn.

Obviously Not.

They are fake orgasm.This is part of their jobs. Whatever they said after the section are all lies. That`s why we enjoy it very
much. Whatever they said we seldom listen from our partner.

It doesn't matter if they have a real or fake O ...
all that matters is what the person doing her believes or gets what he want to believe !
and if he's satisfied, then why should anyone else comment as if they were there ?

For sure. Pay for a fantasy you'd be a fool not to believe the fantasy.

I have no intention on raining on anyone else's parade quite the opposite. The point I was making to in around about way was often enough the girls do Orgasm and many of the girl's orgasms described in reviews are real. In defense of media comments that verge on implying WG almost never Orgasm.
Perhaps not as often as the reviews suggest due to the selective reporting,

Wouldn't want nice girls know that some WG may at times actually enjoy their jobs (sometimes atleast).

nice article, love the writing style. though isnt it a fallacy to assume that a review site's readers and  writers are 'slightly above the level of the' general population? some can be really naive.  

on the point of fake orgasms. well, to claim most wgs do get it on the job is also verylikely to (no offense or disrespect in anyway here) lead to the point that most punters are skillful in bed?

In terms of not getting ripped off,  establishments that rip off clients tend to rip off their girls as well, resulting in unhappy WGs and unhappy WGs never give good service.

Not all points were meant to carry equal weight, They were points that came to mind on how skewed the view is both from conventional point of view in that WG never enjoy themselves and the reviewers point of view where they normally/often do and at times to great effect.

Some of the most re known establishments in Sydney are almost never reviewed on similar boards as this, because regular punters know them by reputation.
A more local example are go go bars in Wanchai, I am sure a few had their first punt in such places but it doesn't take long for them to wise up.
Punt in a few countries and the Wanchai bars probably look like obvious rip off places

Rip off as in steal in a hustle sense(have to watch my Aussie expressions never too sure what is purely local Aussie slang or just stolen from American TV)

It's not necessary the average punters but some of the prolific reviewers that skew the view in terms of sexual ability.

Review boards attract those striving for recognition, as they get a double whammy impressing the girl and then an audience.

Face it after punting on and off for 20 years, for many it becomes a bit more than merely collecting pretty faces.
If someone is obsessed with something for 20 odd years then one would assume they would have learnt a bit about their obsession.

[ Last edited by  HenryMiller at 28-1-2011 21:47 ]

It doesn't matter to me if it's real or fake, just more work for the WG if she has to fake it.  She does want to make sure you have a good time and possibly be a repeat customer if she has the guy thinking that he rocked her world! Haha

They all have the big "O" with me LOL!

Seriously, most times when I am with a WG I'm not really concerned whether she did or not.  I do try to figure out what she likes and making her feel good, it makes the experience that much better, but in the end the reality is it is all about me.

I can say for a fact that there have been two WGs here in Japan that really had an orgasm.  Both were from the same establishment, but about a year apart.  The first happened after a session of sex and bathing, 69ing on the "soapland" rubber mat.  She convulsed and ended up having goose bumps all over her body.  I don't usually believe the moaning and convulsions, but the 5 minutes of goose bumps were impressive.  The other ended up being a squirter... Never had a girl do that before, it was pretty awesome!  Still trying to chase her down for another squirt!  

Beyond those two I just enjoyed the rides and hoped they had some fun too.

It is irrelevant, as long as they are convincing then i dont really care if it's real or not tbh.

not many girls can pull off a fake and convincing orgasm, ive heard stories from other bros of bad overacting and such where it becomes quite a joke when the WG/HG climaxes and the bro is thinking like - 'wow, that's fast!'.

I often suspect the ones that fake orgasm quickly are very inexperienced, either that or they see a lot of premature ejactulators. It's usually with the younger WG, who are at the more frigid end of the market anyhow (perhaps that's just my experience as someone much older than 20).

Personally I believe most woman can make a convincing fake orgasm, especially if they time it with the blokes who at that moment has things other that acting critic on his mind.

I never question anything I see as believable, why the hell destroy my fantasy, my illusions?

Aside from the earth shattering orgasms that has the WG in convulsions*, the only true way to tell is the WG's head space afterwards. Did she just get a hit of the bodies happy drugs?  Some woman release a noticeable sent when they cum.
Though sometimes you can to compare her fake with her real, if you fake almost coming yourself, you will see her performance play out. I once did this and then said to the WG "OK that's the Fake's out of the way, now lets have real sex" while it worked with her, I am sure this would back fire more often than not.

*not that uncommon in the 30yo and above age group WGs in Sydney (there are some very naughty ex house wives out there, who make a career out of what is basically sex addiction)


Time filters out the FOAM*ing Star fish.

Fake Orgasm And Moaning

Starfish as in lying arms and legs spread not moving

The younger end of the market is crowded with punters who are more obsessed with looks than believable service and the service given at this end of market often reflects this.
That's not to say there aren't any naughty girls at this end of the market. The majority of naturally naughty girls generally take up the profession a little older. In their late teens and early twenties they can find enough sponsors, wealthy BF's, sugar daddies and the like to support their life style.

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How do you know if you are any good in Bed?
Ask the neighbors.

[ Last edited by  HenryMiller at 30-1-2011 08:35 ]

I have a tendancy to believe that a large percentage of the girls who choose to be WGs enjoy sex more than "average" to begin with.  Not all, of course, but I would bet anything that a "statistically meaningful" number of WGs have sex-drives that are higher than non-WGs.  They are naturally inclined to enjoy it, so you just need to find their specific buttons to push.  I enjoy learning each girl and what makes them tick in bed.   

I have been punting a great deal and for a long time.  I've had girls were it was obvious she would rather be doing something else, and I've had girls who rip the rafters off the ceiling with their enthusiasm.  I guess it is one of the reasons I punt the way I do - in Wanchai clubs instead of HGs or walk-ups - so I can get a sense of the girl first, and even to start setting the mood with her so she IS horny by the time we get to a room.  Hell - even the most sex-craved girl still needs time to get in the mood.  The dirty-dancing and grindng in the club, a little alcohol to loosen her up..., I just find this makes the event sooo much better.  Does she always cum?  Of course not, but I am absolutely convinced a lot do.

Reminds me of the episode in Seinfeld which shows it is hard for men to know if its real or fake:

Jerry: You faked? You faked with me? No!
Elaine: Yes I did. You didn't know did ya?
Jerry: But What about the moaning, the groaning, the panting, the screaming?
Elaine: Fake, fake, fake, fake

LOL

Business is business, if a girl can fake an O to help her john crack a nut faster she is going to do it.  If she has a real one good for her.

We are all kidding ourselves if we think the first order of business for a WG is anything but money.

Party, orgasms, fun, just side perks if it happens.

Show me the money.

Che'lu

If the girl turns around to you and blows a mouthful of air at you combined with a disgusted look, then you probably made her come. Just from my experience.

I did ask a WG about if she really comes. She said if it happens, it happens but it's rare.

I think they become desensitized to the sex act, like Pron stars needing a fluffer to get wood.

I think there is a difference with the type of WG job as well.  A bargirl told me she was a walk-up girl in Singapore using a site similar to 141.  She said she might do 8 or 10 guys a day on some days - and work everyday straight for 2 weeks (maybe a day or two off during the stretch).  She said it was exhausting for her (man, I couldn't cum that many times per day!!.  Today, as a Bargirl she'll do one, or maybe two a nite (and not every nite). A big differance as to whether she is going to be able to get into it.

A very big differance in cash earned though, isn't it?  A Bagirl will get between $1000-1500HK per punt.  Seems the walk-ups get around $300 or so.  Wow, 4 or 5 walkups equals the same cash as 1 Bargirl punt.  Wow.  That is signifciant!!  If she does two guys at $1,500 she'll earn the same as pulling in 10 walk-ups!

Clearly this is one reason they treat me so well - my afternoon punts with a regular gives them 1 hit early in the day, and doesn't interfere with their usual nighttime work efforts.

Kinda off-topic, but interesting.

[ Last edited by  wander at 1-2-2011 09:17 ]

Just a recent anecdote on this topic.

I punted the other day at lunchtime with a bargirl I saw once before.  I was getting her very close to cumming and she started backing off and whispering "no, can't, etc".  Anyway, I kept at it and she relented, relaxed, and reached orgasm.  

After we've cleaned we're back in bed chatting and she's falling asleep.  She says she's finished for the day now - an orgasm just steals all her energy so she does NOT want to cum. She can't work after,   She slept for about 30 minutes or so before waking and apologizing.  I laughed and told her I felt proud to bring her over the edge.

Still, it is true the girls often don't want to cum for exactly this reason.

[ Last edited by  wander at 11-3-2011 11:55 ]

I agree with you.

I've been punting for a long time already, and I was able to make lots of girls come (mostly by doing daty).  But I've also encountered sizable numbers of wg that wouldn't want to come more than once, claiming it willl drain their energy out and can't work properly for the rest of the day.

It just shows that these wgs are really there for the money and not to enjoy themselves.