Hey bros,

I have to throw a question out there...  do you, or have you ever, brought your wife/gf to Wan Chai?  Perhaps to Dusk Till Dawn or Amazonia?  If so, for the love of god, why?  And please stop it!!  You are acting in a nice an saintly manner, given your GF is beside you - but the rest of us (who may know her, right,  might be seen in a very compromising positions - up on the dance floor grinding and fondling a sexpot WG).  This can really screw the rest of us up!  I realize some situations arise where you have little choice (I'll explain this below) but please avoid doing this at all costs.  And if you have to go with her, please find the quickest way to bail out and head elsewhere.

A couple very recent stories of solid bros forced to crap their pants because of Spouses On Deck:

Me and a bro are out in WC one Staurday.  It is about 2am or so and (bloody luckily) we are walking between bars when we bump into one one of his good friends and his wife.  His wife is best friends with my mate's wife.  Shit!!  My mate crapped his pants.  He was NOT supposed to be there!  We joined them and he pulled his friend aside and told him his wife must not find out he was seen in Wan Chai!!  We forced an early exit so she could see us jumping in a taxi (presumbly to go home).  He freaked out for the rest of the week waiting for his wife to question him about his late nite prowling in Wan Chai.  Worse, this event is only 1 person removed from my long-term GF - if his wife learns, my GF will shortly thereafter.  I crapped my pants too.

A month or so later:  My Bro and his wife have been invited to a nice dinner out with freinds.  The friends had chosen a nice resto near Wan Chai.  Oh shit, my mate was already thinking - he could see where this was ending up.  Sure enough, as it was just touching midnite the "gang" decided to walk down to the Wan Chai bar scene and check it out.  They go to Mes Amis (safe enough, I suppose) but my mate's wife instantly spots one of his co-workers staggering down the street.  She jumps up to say hi, and his face (so I am told) wears that same "holy shit!!" expression that he himself wore just a month earlier.  The co-worker bailed out quickly and vanished into the Wan Chai nite - shitting his pants as well that his wife would soon be "casually informed" that he was spotted post-midnite drunk and wandering alone in Wan Chai.  Not good for domestic bliss.  Girls talk.  Girls love stirring the pot.  

For me, everytime I see a western-girl in one of my Wan Chai haunts my heart skips a beat.  Who is she?  Does she know me or my GF?  But half the time I am "occupied, drunk, and oblivious to anything except the tits and ass grinding all over me...".  How many spouses have I missed that actually saw me and knew me?  

These two "sightings", though proving no actual infidelity, begin to raise questions and doubts if your spouse is informed.  Doubts can lead to snooping, and a lot more questioning about your "boy's nite out" than you wish to go through.  Questioning leads to lies (you have no choice at that point).  And if the lies are hard to convice (telling your girl you where in LKF all nite only to have her learn you were in Wan Chai from her freind who had a first-person viewing causes lots of trouble).

So, for those that do this, for some unknowable reason - please stop it, or bail out of WC with your girl as soon as humanly possible.

That would bring up a question of why women would be interested in walking about WC after midnight if it has that sort of reputation?  

So glad I know no one in hk to be worried about being seen at so and so location.

Some of the best live bands in HK are in Wan Chai, so this is one reason a spouse might want to go.

But for most, I think it is either curiosity, or indeed a devilish desire to catch someone they know being naughty.  

There are a growing number of what are considered "safe" or "regular" bars in Wan Chai, so there seems to be a growing number of couples coming in.  I dont like it.  Desecrating the holy land!!

I occasionally have brought my SO to HK. I try and do it one trip per year. I play that trip very differently (usually, although plans are afoot for some fun later in the year during our annual SO trip). My SO has asked me about this "Hari's Bar" and I tell her I don't like it, too sleezy and I know some people who got their bag snatched right out side. It also helps that from around 9pm there are usually large and rather "intimidating" (for a lady at least) crowds of people making a lot of noise near the Nathan Rd / Mody Rd corner so my SO wisely stays clear, especially night time. When I am with my SO we spend a lot of time around Canton Rd... expensive but a worth while investment in my opinion.

Seriously though, any Bro (that knows what Wan Chai is all about) that brings an SO to Wan Chai at night is an idiot! We hear about Indian Bros getting grief when they try to enter Neptune II etc... I think any Bro with an SO should be banned from going to these places! It's just wrong. Talk about killing the goose that laid the golden egg...

The girls that sit out front of the velvet curtain bars are reason enough to stay away... If your SO saw some of those lovely looking women hanging around trying to coerce Bros in... she'd have to be crazy not to try and ban you from ever setting foot on Lockhart again.

Plenty of places in HK to listen to music, LKF is a much safer bet for a night out with the SO, or Knutsford Tce, or SOHO... actually ANYWHERE except Wan Chai!

Exactly TT.  

I have essentially been "banned" from Wan Chai - though I have never been caught or questioned about it.  

My girfriend, as she told me, simply said two things shortly after we moved to HK:

1)  Asian girls, she says, seem to give me an awful lot of lustful looks when we are walking around (not in Wan Chai, I have never been there with her).  So she became somewhat nervous about all this "candy" that seemed to want to jump in my pocket.  (and it's true - a well off Gweilo is a walking "lottery ticket" to a large segment of the young female population.

2)  A freind of hers brought her to Wan Chai (damn bitch!) once and she saw the scene.  The WGs everywhere, the punters staggering around with one (or more) young cuties hanging off him.   

After that, when I go out with freinds she expects me to steer clear of Wan Chai.

That's why I hate it when I see a Bro out with his spouse in the area.  Not good for anyone!

You have to learn to 'sell' Wanchai to your gf. Wanchai has many attractions that make it a great place to go with one's SO and friends.  The most important point is you have to take her there and leave before 2am when it becomes really skanky full of drunken guys and wgs.

In the normal evening hours, Wanchai is great fun for couples. It has one of the best selection of Thai/SE Asian restaurants in the HK island. It has many live bands which in many ppl's opinions are the best in HK. Places like Dusk to Dawn, Wanch, and Amazonia to a certain point have very mixed crowds, mostly civis before 2am. On some nights, Dusk to Dawn would be mostly civiis/tourists until closing.

Years ago, the old Neptune 1 had the best club dj who later went on to a successful dj-ing tour of the world. We would be clubbing with our friends among the wgs, (no different with going to a gay club in the west to club with friends among the gays).  The happy hours and ambience at the many bars are nice and relaxing...

So your big mistake was not selling her the 'correct' picture of wanchai to your SO. Instead you let her friends present to her, the 'corrupt' picture. If you had done the above early on, she would not have feared that you like to go to Wanchai for drinks with buds.   Take my advice and show her the nice side of Wanchai and she may then change her preconceptions.

Sometimes my buds and I go to Wanchai after LKF because we want to keep partying and drinking. The beers at Neptune II at 3am are so cheap! Places like Dusk to Dawn and then Bridge go on into the wee hours. Plus if you have friends visit HK only from Sunday to Tuesday, Wanchai is the only place to have any kind of fun and drinking.

I think all your friends, SO's, and you should go book a table at the Chili's Club (thai food) then go for drinks at Mes Amis, and end the night with dancing to the live bands at Dusk to Dawn. Treat this is as a visit to the local sights of HK and hopefully your SO's will feel differently afterwards.   Oh, one more thing, if you stay past 130am, make sure you make Dusk to Dawn your last place and take the taxis outside the front door to whisk you all quickly home. Don't give your SOs any chance to stroll the streets of Wanchai after 2am.

[ Last edited by  doghead at 25-1-2011 13:51 ]

That's very good TT. Sleaze and fear of getting robbed is a good deterrent. I once had a friend who visits Macau regularly and decided to bring his SO to the Robuchon at the Lisboa for dinner. It's probably the best traditional French fine dining restaurant outside of France. However, he was silly enough to enter the premises on the Ground Floor and had to steer his way with his SO through the race track to get to the elevators leading to the restaurant. Needless to say, they saw all the WGs soliciting on the GF and the dinner turned out to be a disaster. All sort of questions were asked about his previous visits to Macau and he was banned from ever visiting Macau alone again even though he is not much of a punter.

[ Last edited by  geoduck at 25-1-2011 14:24 ]

@doghead

Bro, you missed the point of my post.  We don't WANT Civie SO's watching our carnal activities!!  And this starts before 2am, my friend.  

I don't want my SO being there at Amazonia or Wanch and see one of my mates (who I punt with) being lathered up by a filli sexpot!  Nor her friends seeing me there.   This is the danger.  Unhealthy for all Bros in my humble opinion!

I understand your point perfectly well. But I tend to subscribe to the idea that it is best to show the SO the places / areas I go to for drinks with buds or for biz so she can see for herself what I do is either harmless or boring for her. Occasionally I test the waters by inviting her to join me for drinks with friends in town at Wanchai. Practically without fail she declines and tells me to go alone and have fun with the boys.   

Like once I took my SO wth me on a day trip to the Guangzhou Trade Fair. She didn't enjoy the trip at all as she was so bored as it was an all day affair at the fair. Next time on my next visit to the GZ Fair, I can expect I will be traveling alone which will allow 'side' trips.

If your friends and you are clever at this, you can hide a lot of secrets out in the open. Otherwise her suspicions will be surely aroused if you try to sneak around to Wanchai.

Unfortunately you cant act as if WC doesnt exist. Its ignoring the elephant in the room. In time, if not already, your SO will know all about WC and its little secrets. When that happens there will be more doubts and questions as to exactly what you have been up to with the boys in WC.

Far better therefore i think to manage the SO exposure to WC. Keeping to safe(r) joints and getting out asap is good. And for heavens sake, don't go stumbling down the street dead drunk with fillys on each arm. Its a public place. You dont want to be seen. Use your common sense. Your SO may not be there but theres no telling who might see and tell on you.

Yeah, I get that - staggering drunk down the street with two WG's on either arm is my own damn fault if I get nailed.  I avoid this for the most part.  (but it's happened )

I also get the idea of "slaying the dragon" by removing the Wan Chai mystery from your spouse.  But no way you will do this at 1:30am on a weekend!

Respectfully Bro, to say Wan Chai is SO-freindly before 1:30am seems like crazy-talk (if you expect to go their again without a somewhat concerned spouse grilling you the next day).  We seem to be speaking of two differrent Wan Chai's!

My mate did exactly as you suggested - went to Mes Amis with his SO, then Amazonia just around Mid-night.  WG's everywhere, and as aggressive as usual - and she spotted his co-worker going solo to boot - which gave him the scare of his life when he saw her.  

I agree that going their before 10 or 11pm and sticking to Mes Amis or Dusk Till Dawn could work, but how you hide the "truth" of Wan Chai after that I dont know.  I've been to Dusk Till Dawn at midnight and had plenty of fun with the WGs.  Yeah, they say they try to "keep them out" of that bar, but they dont seem to be trying too hard.  

All I am saying is that it will come back to bite you (and the rest of us).  When she sees one of your regular drinking mates partying there with a 20-something-smoking-hot-chick-who-is-not-his-wife she will DEFINATELY wonder if you do the same whn you are out.  And the doubt begins.  The next time you say you are going out with him expect the look of concern.  Your Wan Chai-banishment days will begin.

I don't know, maybe others have handled it differently, but I say LKF/SOHO/Knutsford offers much fun for going out with our SOs.  Leave Wan Chai out of it unless you get out of dodge by 11pm.  Maybe head there early for dinner and run to LKF before the carniage begins.

Besides, my point was not that you've made your own situtation better (good for you).  But that you've potentially put a number of your mates and Bros up shit-creek when your SO chats about who she saw there.

I take my g/f to Wan Chai...

They have good live bands and she really likes it there, I even took her to Amazonia one time to see the band there. I made it clear to her that before I was with her I used to flirt with the girls there and have a carry on with them. She was ok about it. It had been a very long time since I did anything with a bar girl and I felt safe that no one would confront me lol

One thing I do though if I do take her out is text my friends and inform them just incase they are going out. We all live pretty far out of central so if any of us are going out we text each other.

There is only a couple of bars I take my g/f and I know I will not see the guys as they are always in the ones with the working girls and they dont even go to amazonia.

Not sure whether I am lucky but my SO knows what goes on in Wan Chai and she knows I used to live there so I know too!

As I said above I told her I used to ave a drink & flirt etc before I met her but I only ever mentioned Amazonia (probably the reason she wanted to watch the band there) I didnt mention Laguna or Neptunes etc

I go to WC most weeks with friends to watch the football (honestly!) Yes we do go to Neptunes etc afterwards and tbh I do not do anything with these girls now as I just think the price is silly. Yes I but them drinks and have a flirght etc.. But my SO is ok about it. I think my friends and I are lucky though as we live far out so dont really need to worry about the same things as people living close by do...

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I take my g/f to Wan Chai...

".....One thing I do though if I do take her out is text my friends and inform them just incase they are going out. We all live pretty far out of central so if any of us are going out we text each other. "

Now THAT is a classy Bro!!  Well done, mate!!

Thanks Bro!

It has happened for a reason I must say! All my friends and I are in a golf society (that we made up) and we used to frequently plan trips over the border to Shenzhen. We would play golf early so we would finish around 4ish and go on a bender.

Some of the guys who were under the thumb would catch the border around 10pm whilst the rest of us would be pissed up in the girly bars in Shekou! and stay over!

This went on for a good 5 - 6 month atleast once a month with no problems. We would have the date set 2-3 weeks in advance and we would even text the girls the day before informing so the bars would be open.

Then one fateful weekend we all head into the hotel bar for lunch after golf with our little Bro's twitching for some action and there is 1 of the guys who said he could not make it with his fili wife and her sister (2 of the most selfish up their own arse women I have ever met I might add!)

The anger in all our eyes!!! Not only had he not told us he was coming (only saying he could nit make it this trip) He had booked the same hotel! His wife was always suspicious of our trips.

Needless to say we tore him a new arsehole when we got back and the trips slowly dwindled away! Wives getting suspicous etc.. My friends who have Western wives were all OK, just the guys with Asian wives, they cant seem to undetstand why their husbands do not want to stay at home etc...?? They always ask the western ladies why they let them go away etc...

But then again my SO is totally fine with everything, she is from HK and understands we both need time with friends, I am either lucky or she is banging someone else...

Sad.  I feel for you, Bro.  

A great setup ruined cause someone brought his SO.  And un-announced in this case!  What the hell was he thinking?  Deduct 1000 Karma points for that move!

I guess that's all I am saying - the SO's can REALLY mess things up. If the situation arises where I am forced to head to Wan Chai with my SO you can bet a number of my mates will be getting txts warning of the pending danger ("run, Forest, run!!!") and I'll be trying to move the hell out there as quickly as possible.

Cheers!

better to tell her you usually go drinking in LKF or SOHO and take her there every now and again. Wan Chai is no place for an SO... especially after 8pm.

Yeah!

We also have a danger word which means leave your drinks and just get the fu*k outta there and in a taxi or other pub!

It has happened once when I lived in Wan Chai! Our danger word (Changes every month lmao) Bananarama! If you get that text "RUN!" Dont ask questions just disappear! We were in laguna when my friend and I both got the text! It was that busy we just hid in the toilet till we got the 'All clear text' - we were in the for about 30 mins! Even got a girl to buy us a drink lmao!

I'd say the same thing about Euro couples hanging out in Patpong (BKK), but the fact they're in Patpong marks them as rookie tourists anyway.

I've had many a good time in PP, but you can find better pussy and a better night bazaar elsewhere in BKK.