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Spain, the world capital of prostitution?

Europe's largest brothel has just opened in a land where no fewer than 39 per cent of men admit to visiting sex workers
By Alasdair Fotheringham

The Spanish economy may be dangerously close to meltdown this week but one area at least – prostitution – appears to be doing very nicely, thank you.
"Don Jose – cleanliness; Don Jose – discretion; Don Jose – security, and a patrolled car park," half-whispers the calm female voice on a Granada radio station throughout the day. It is an advertisement for the city's biggest and best-known brothel.

Cut to a Saturday night inside the said Don Jose "club" – three storeys high, flashing neon lights, two bars, a VIP zone and some 70 sex workers, clad in everything from nightgowns to G-strings to the very briefest of shorts – and, according to local regulars, business is booming. "The place is heaving every weekend," comments "Alvaro", an experienced brothel-goer in his late forties. "These days in the afternoons and early evenings, you'll get businessmen who've told their wives they're at meetings. Then later on, there are hordes of 18- or 19-year-olds, just there to have a laugh and, if they want, have a quick lay as well."

This is no exaggeration. Prostitution is so popular (and socially accepted) in Spain that a United Nations study reports that 39 per cent of all Spanish men have used a prostitute's services at least once. A Spanish Health Ministry survey in 2009 put the percentage of one-time prostitute users at 32 per cent: lower than the UN figure, perhaps, but far higher than the 14 per cent in liberal-minded Holland, or in Britain, where the figure is reported to oscillate between 5 and 10 per cent. And that was just those men willing to admit it.

To meet this vast demand, an estimated 300,000 prostitutes are working in Spain – everywhere from clubs in town centres to industrial estates, to lonely country roads to roadside bars, the last often recognisable by gigantic neon signs of champagne bottles or shapely females, flashing away in the darkness. And recently, on the French border, Club Paradise opened with 180 sex workers, making it the biggest brothel in Europe.

As the clubs get larger, the clients get younger. According to studies carried out for the Spanish Association for the Social Reintegration of Female Prostitutes (Apramp), back in 1998 the typical client was a 40-year-old married male. By 2005, however, the average age had dropped to 30 – and it appears to be getting lower. "The kids are going because they see it as a quick way of getting what would take a lot longer to happen if they went to a disco," Alvaro says. "You've got the money, you choose the woman you want and it's all over and done with." His own logic is even more brutal: "I go when I don't have a girlfriend."

There is no single reason, though, why prostitution should be so popular in Spain. Historically it has long been seen as an expression of individual freedom – first as a pressure valve for the strait-laced family-focused environment of the Franco years (when prostitution was quietly ignored), and then consolidating itself after the dictator died. Then, as now, brothels would be listed in the yellow pages, albeit under the coy title of "nightclubs", and nobody batted an eyelid. Among the young men of the Spanish provinces, even in the late 1980s, sleeping with a prostitute was no longer something you did as way of losing your virginity: it could actually be seen as cool.

In the 1990s, magazines such as Interviú, which prides itself on its investigative journalism, would think nothing of publishing "erotic guides to Spain". Even today, all-male business dinners can end up in the local "club". "Every now and then I have to take clients," says one accountant who did not want to be named, "but it's OK. They take credit cards."

If the roots of Spain's acceptance of prostitution ultimately lie with the sexual and personal repression of the Franco years, the most curious hangover from the sexual revolution is that, even today, most "'serious" newspapers carry adverts for prostitutes. In the Madrid issue of one major national daily, 75 or 80 per cent of small ads are for prostitutes, offering all manner of services with prices from ¤20 to ¤200. Plans to eliminate the so-called "contact ads" appear to be on a kind of permanent hold, partly justified by the precarious economic state of Spain's print media.

However, the underbelly of a trade which is legal in Spain but not recognised as an actual job is far from pleasant, with human trafficking constantly rearing its ugly head. In 2009 alone, Spain's Ministry of the Interior detected 17 international crime rings involved in sexual trafficking in Spain. Between January and April of this year, according to the newspaper El País, the authorities identified 493 cases of women sold into sexual slavery.

Yet that makes no difference, it seems, to the clients who pour through the doors of the brothels. "There is a clear lack of awareness as to what is going on," says Marta Gonzalez, a spokeswomen for the Madrid-based NGO Proyecto Esperanza, which helps women who have been victims of trafficking. "Clients don't realise that many of these women could be victims of trafficking. Lots of people would be more wary if the prostitutes were clearly under lock and key or had obviously been subject to physical abuse. They don't realise that all it takes is a death threat to their families back in Nigeria or Brazil, and the woman is already being coerced into prostitution."

The laws in Spain are of little help either, with prostitution currently a permitted activity – but with no labour rights. "They're already frequently leading a double life or are considered social outcasts and often are in dire need of money," said a Spanish Red Cross social worker running a healthcare programme for prostitutes. "Add the lack of legal rights, and they're a clear target for exploitation."

On top of that there's Spain's recession. "Economically the women I'm dealing with are at the end of their tether, and the lack of other employment possibilities makes everybody more nervous about keeping clients. In the process they put themselves at risk, too. They'll be more willing to accept it when a client doesn't want to use a condom, for example, to be sure they get him to sleep with them."

When prostitution and trafficking overlap, the legal situation grows even more discouraging. "Glitches in the legislation mean that an identical crime is punished less severely here than, say, in Germany." Ms Gonzalez says. "Forcing someone to prostitute themselves in Spain gets from two to four years in prison here, while human trafficking gets five to eight. But because the latter charge often can't be proved effectively because of poor legislation, the criminal gets the lower sentence."

Meanwhile, Spain's sex trade continues to flourish. And, in one way, it is literally more visible than ever: recently, in an attempt to cut the number of road accidents, the police in Lerida, Catalunya, issued the prostitutes working in out-of-town lay-bys with fluorescent waistcoats.
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Spanish brothels, such as this one in La Jonquera, have no need to disguise what their business is
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I don't know about this

I think the Spanish women are a little to fiery for general prostitution. They are more likely to make porn than walk the streets or work in Bars! Maybe this is more in the local areas in the outskirts which I didn't get a chance to get around too.

My experience in Spain - no actual punting and was 2 years ago -  I didn't mind chatting to them while I was doing my laundry in Barcelona most of them were from Brazil and Cuba!

Would be a nice place to play as the women are gorgeous!!
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Never was in Spain...
but at least Spanish women seem to be online     so do not forget your computer when you go there

A survey this year showed this LINK
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Post at 8-12-2010 05:01  Profile P.M. 
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"And recently, on the French border, Club Paradise opened with 180 sex workers, making it the biggest brothel in Europe."

Try some KTV in China, it could be at least 300+ girls working.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by Weelock at 8-12-2010 05:01
"And recently, on the French border, Club Paradise opened with 180 sex workers, making it the biggest brothel in Europe."

Try some KTV in China, it could be at least 300+ girls working.

Yes, but with the KTV's you have to go through the sitting and drinking and bad singing and Chinese language problems and possible shake down by police raiding the club, etc.

The Spanish situation sounds far more civilised and straight forward.
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Post at 8-12-2010 10:51  Profile P.M. 
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I have a Spain trip report from many years ago...it's one of my better pieces of writing, let me know if you would like me to dust off the archives and share it with you.

Girls come mostly from South America, they have contracted for 21 day tours. There's also a smattering of East Euro talent, also. Brothels are known as "puti clubs"-just look for a pink sign that flashes.

My ATF brothel was the long gone Showgirls BCN, in...ummm...Barcelona. Most nights 200 girls working, most Playboy quality. IIRC, prices about $150 or so/hr.
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My ATF brothel was the long gone Showgirls BCN, in...ummm...Barcelona. Most nights 200 girls working, most Playboy quality. IIRC, prices about $150 or so/hr.

What is ATF brothel mean and Showgirl BCN, IIRC ?  For $150 is this is Euros or USD, what kind of dollars ?  thanks....
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i thought it was thailand?

i always thought 3 top destinations were thailand, philippines and amsterdam

but playboy quality for 150 us dollars sounds damn good

spain here i come, como esta senorita
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Reply #7 Weelock's post

ATF = all-time favourite

BCN = Barcelona

IIRC = if I remember correctly

$ usually = USD unless otherwise specified

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i don't think that Spain are the world capital of prostitution but is a big important patrimony in prostitutes and clubs, pisos, i visit spain very regularly and I'm a good client for pay-sex, for me spain is where i can find all nationality, all type, the prices are not so good at many times but any way, if you want good sex you have to pay. i prefer the freelancer girls, and i this site http://www.nuevoloquo.com/ i can have a very good directions often before my landing.
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I've been to Spain  many times and it it can be quite expensive if ur new as I was, ripped off horrendous and the service was poor to but I think if ur a local they will treat u better.
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I've been to Spain  many times and it it can be quite expensive if ur new as I was, ripped off horrendous and the service was poor to but I think if ur a local they will treat u better.
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tt is like in the world, you can have good and bad experience, if you do not want to visit the club, you can choose a site as nuevoloquo.com and prompt you to your hotel, it is better in my opinion.
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