Subject: How to buy an exclusive
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How to buy an exclusive

Supposing money is not an issue (as I am sure this could get very expensive), how would one go about blocking out a week or two ofa WG's schedule? And how much would bargaining begin at?
I've seen some suggestions that bargaining for overnight starts at 3x the ST rate, and bargaining for 24 hours starts at 10x ST rate. As markets usually operate, bargaining for 14 days should probably be less than 140x the ST rate ($112,000).
Say a HG lists at $800. Assuming she averages 9 clients a day, 2.5 overnights a week, and has 1 day off over the next 14 days. That is 112x ST and 5x overnight. $800 x 112 + $800 x 3 x 5 = $101,600.
I don't pretend to know the industry that well, but I would imagine that papasan does have to work consistently as her agent, and probably has a maximum number of WGs at any given time that he/she can handle, so taking her off his roster would free up an extra slot for him to do more business. It's a good deal, right? So bargaining should probably start below market value. Perhaps $80,000 for 14 days exclusive? If I were in the business, I would probably take as low as $60,000 and just find a replacement for her.
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which variables are you referring to?
in HK, Mainland, Korea?

then I assume HG, KTV, Sauna, Streetwalker, etc...alll would be different prices
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Reply #1 nastrum's post

I believe the Bro here is referring to HK HG prices.
I would assume one should get a discount for a days booking.
10x the rate seems relatively high.

But hum...... the calculations seems correct in this sense.
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I think you could go even lower price like 70,000.  I do not think their work is that regular so they would appreciate the steady, guaranteed money.  Also, it is much less work for both the girl and her manager.  Less booking, less accomodations, etc.
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Reply #1 nastrum's post

It's best to take a double session, befriend the girl, use your charm and then ask her when she finishes her tour of duty. Most of the HGs live in SZ or Zhuhai so you hook up with them in China. You can offer them HK$20,000 for one week and promise to take them shopping. If they get along with you they will accept these terms because they're be no hassles for them and also they do not have to pay for the hotel room in HK or the PPS.
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I would offer between HK$10 to 20K for one month excluding food and lodging






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Reply #5 geoduck's post

Totally agree...skip the agent and a bit from their share to the girl and quids in, definitely works out better. Its a big cut the agents take from their work.
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Reply #1 nastrum's post

you sure jump fast...
first you ask abt overnight info, now you want 1 week...

why are you asking these questions?
just curious? or you are really interested in trying what you've asked?




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Reply #1 nastrum's post

How many times do you plan on popping per day with the same girl no less. From a value propostion, I just don't see it making sense for yourself anywhere close to the figured you suggested. Yeah your average cost should be way down, but you gotta make sure you want to buy in bulk.
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@ kaka, 12:35, #8

I've gathered from reading the threads here that most people are somewhat preoccupied with the prices, best values, bargains, etc.
In my opinion, $800 is dirt cheap, so instead of shopping for bargains, the expanded options are more interesting to me.
If you can have an exclusive for 2 weeks for just $80,000 then it's like cheating on life and it's perfectly legal.
Of course, it goes further with some sense for bargaining, so what I'm really looking for is a mix of luxury and value, without having to drop any pickup lines.

@ flinger, 12:46, #9

It's not a matter of how many pops. Just once or twice a day is fine with me, as long as it's not rushed, and pretty much whenever I want. An attractive young lass to dine with and a captive audience throughout the day are just as interesting to me.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by nastrum at 15-7-2010 13:09
@ kaka, 12:35, #8
Of course, it goes further with some sense for bargaining, so what I'm really looking for is a mix of luxury and value, without having to drop any pickup lines.


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Reply #1 nastrum's post

Sorry if I sound rude, but I'm not too sure why you'd want to have the same girl(s) for a week or month, isnt that a girlfriend? one that you might dump after the same period of time?

I would much rather sample more variety, correct me if I'm wrong but isnt that what the bros are here for, punting and trying out new girls without the strings?

A mate of my "paid for" (chinese term "yeung") a taiwanese girl for 2 months, and we all thought he was stupid, cos she was so demanding. Don't get me wrong, if you do go for it, keep us updated
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Reply #9 flinger's post

Think nastrum wants to have a pretty girl for a week all to himself. It's like a GFE, not just counting the number of times you can do it in a day. Get to know the girl, build up some atmosphere. I have done this but not with a HK HG. HGs are a bit more costly as they are very mercenary, just wanting to make as much money in the shortest time possible.

nastrum, think it will be better and cheaper if you met someone in a KTV in China. If there's chemistry between the two of you this would not cost more than RMB8,000 for the entire week.
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Too high level of math for me.  I can only get to 11 with my shoes and pants off.

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Can understand wanting to develop the time you spend with a girl as well a the company thing during your down time.  one point

You'd have to make sure that this girl was exactly what you wanted from the experience, in my experience girls have a set 'routine/spiel ' that they use and you'd have to make sure that beyond that, there was somethin there to keep you interested. i cant see how this is possible without trying a few times with a girl first.  Of course if you go down that route, having spoken to her a few times hopefully, just feel her out or even just make her an offer you think is fair. She can decide or negotiate, whatever she decides to do re: her agent well thats her business.  

Also id make sure that if this was happening to me:

I wouldnt pay it up front
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Reply #10 nastrum's post

I certainly see your point in this exercise, but I would think for something like that you would have to build some type of repoire. I mean lets say you make the deal for a week with her agent, but afterwards the chemistry sucks for whatever reason, kinda hard to say I'd like some of money back    Definitely a buyer beware situation.

Now if you inquiring only because you just want an idea of cost, but want to test drive the model first, ok I'm with you there. Even though I prefer variety given the limited time I typically have in these situations.
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Reply #13 geoduck's post

I agree it's not all about number of pops you can do in a day. As I mentioned above post, I would want that repoire beforehand as opposed to rolling the dice on someone who I may or may not have chemistry with. To spend a full week with beauty that you have chemistry with, is pure bliss of a fling. The reverse, is a week from hell, and woudn't want that on my vacation time.
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@ geoduck, 16:29, #13

That is correct. I haven't thought about a KTV in the mainland. I'll see if my mandarin is up to snuff before trying that. Even my Cantonese needs a lot of work. For the time being, English and Japanese are my modi operandi. (Hence, revise above numbers x2)

@ liberty8, 00:09, #15

Of course, I'll have a few ST sessions first (reviews to follow). They don't all have set routines, and with the right chemistry in the equation, whatever routines they do have may go flying out the window.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by nastrum at 16-7-2010 02:14
@ geoduck, 16:29, #13

That is correct. I haven't thought about a KTV in the mainland. I'll see if my mandarin is up to snuff before trying that. Even my Cantonese needs a lot of work. For the time being, English and Japanese are my modi operandi. (Hence, revise above numbers x2)

geoduck gave good advice.
KTV is very suitable for you. Cheap and bonus is you might get to know her friends.
And don't negotiate a whole-week price, instead, pay the WG daily, but let her know you are interested in seeing her everyday.
anytime you are sick of her, you can get rid of her! (which you probably would~!)

as for the language barrier, it's the same for the PRC HG in HK.
seldom they speak better English or Japanese than the China KTV WGs.




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Reply #14 DiamnondDave's post

If you could only get to 10 with your pants off, you are either a girl or ladyboy LOL
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