Subject: what do you feel about racism in HK?
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what do you feel about racism in HK?

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Reply #1 jborne69's post

What type of Racism are you talking about? Black and white??  Chinese against Whites and other races? Be more specific??
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Reply #1 jborne69's post

What type of Racism are you talking about? Black and white??  Chinese against Whites and other races? Be more specific??
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Post at 2-9-2007 17:35  Profile P.M. 
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oh Chinese against Whites.  

oh and there's HK Chinese against Mainland Chinese.
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Reply #1 jborne69's post

I grew up in the southern US. I've always been offended by racism and go out of my way to avoid it in my own
behavior. I think societiy as a whole accepts and even condones it. As far as how I "feel about" it, it's disgusting.
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Racism

When I was young I wanted to change the world. But, after nearly a lifetime, I have to admit that I probably never directly changed the
views of even one person. Are Chinese racist - yes, some of them. But the best you can do is live your life according to your own values and
hopefully, things will eventually change for the better. Three of the greatest men in history are Martin Luther King, Nelson Mandela and
Muhammad Ali. Racism sucks and is one of the greatest evils in the world and it's why, to this day, I've never visited South Africa. I've also
worked a lot with persons of another nationality and have never visited their country because of some of the garbage I've heard come from
their mouths - even though  they are mostlly well educated.      
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by jborne69 at 2-9-2007 17:11
any comments here?

I guess jbourne69 was having a bad hair day??  I agree with all th above posters Racism sucks and needs to be put in its place anytime it rears its ugly head it is a shame in this day and age we even have to discuss it??  Cheers!!
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by TrickyD7 at 4-9-2007 14:52


I guess jbourne69 was having a bad hair day??  I agree with all th above posters Racism sucks and needs to be put in its place anytime it rears its ugly head it is a shame in this day and age we eve ...

well... i just saw a few things which really bugged me on the day i wrote that post.
and today i had a shit day at work.
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better not let beta read this thread; he's pissed about racism






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Post at 9-9-2007 00:13  Profile P.M. 
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General perceptions of HK ppl (from my work place and experience on the streets):

What I see daily in shops,restaurants, etc:
1) Mainlainder vs Gwai Lou.
-  Prefer Gwai Lou

QUOTE (Joke from an old Chap):
<Deleted - racist statement>


Do you call this Racism ???????

[ Last edited by  hunter at 10-9-2007 11:48 ]
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Reply #10 hunter's post

can I have the Snake ?






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Post at 9-9-2007 11:27  Profile P.M. 
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Ask from JAke.......
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he has a snake farm?






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QUOTE:
Originally posted by hunter at 9-9-2007 00:13
General perceptions of HK ppl (from my work place and experience on the streets):

What I see daily in shops,restaurants, etc:
1) Mainlainder vs Gwai Lou.
-  Prefer Gwai Lou

QUOTE (Joke from an old C ...

Joke from Australia about Chinese!!

Twooo Dolllaaar Flied Lice??

Is That Racist?? Bet you it is!! maybe a joke but not very tasteful.
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Post at 10-9-2007 11:48  Profile P.M. 
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I better delete it.........too racist
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Post at 10-9-2007 16:10  Profile P.M. 
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You were right to delete it - never make fun of the Snake  
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and Jake the Snake is busy wrestling on the bed






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hows your day everyone?
i've just got home...
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I agree that racism is an ugly thing, and as a local Hong Kong national who has been educated in England, I feel the political correctness there much more than I do here. I think PC is a bit silly, and I retain my personal opinion that most people ARE inherently racist. Not because they are nasty, or want to put other people down, but its just genetically programmed into us to fear those which are different from us. They did an experiment in England, where they used sophisticated make-up to transform a white guy into a black person, and he said when he was walking down the street, he felt hostile stares, and he felt people being afraid of him. I think its inherent, because you are programmed to think, to fear, those whose skin colour is different from your own. Whilst I was doing my Masters, two of my closest friends were black guys, not even "Ghetto" types, I'm talking about moved to England for 6 years from Nigeria and Ethiopia, type black guys. They were by far the smartest in the class, and wrote essays which provoked comments from the lecturer along the lines of, "I WISH I HAD WRITTEN THIS". I could barely understand the topics being taught, and my grasp of the English language was far better than theirs, yet their superior intellect easily compensated for any language barrier. But that's tax law for you.

In terms of "gwei lo" and "mainlander", yes, I would say, (and I am more than 80% certain that I speak for most of the local Hong Kong Chinese) that I would prefer a gwei lo at face value. My generation of Hong Kong people is experiencing a funny kind of identity crisis. Although I feel chinese, I am actually loyal to Her Majesty's Government, as opposed to the Chinese Communist Government. I love my country, my heritage, my history, but I dont love the communist party. Having been educated at English establishments have also marked us out as different. We take a lot of pride in being able to speak fluent English, especially if we master Queen's english (which, even most English people can't do), but we would take less pride if we spoke fluent Mandarin. For business efficacy reasons, it is obviously a good thing to learn Mandarin, and I can just about hold a conversation in Mandarin, but I would definitely toast the Queen before I would consider Mao.

Mainlanders are perceived at face value, to be uncouth, uncultured, bad-mannered, uncivilised, ugly, badly-dressed, un-educated, vulgar-featured barbarians, by us finely cultivated Hong Kongers .  Obviously such disillusions are shattered the minute you get to know good people. Some of my most revered people are Mainlanders, some of the greatest teachers in the world. The rest who hawk and spit freely, and rummage between their toes and dinner tables in restaurants, who can't fucking let other people get off the train before pushing their way in with their damn suitcases in the MTR despite FREQUENT announcements, I continue to view with distaste.

Its not racism to discriminate against your own race, but it REALLY does happen, and I have decided to call it reverse-racism. I found this phenonmenon to be very true when I was in England. I hated seeing Chinese people when I was there (for a very substantial amount of time). I wasn't the only one. I talked to French people who hated hearing French accents, my German roomate said, "Look at that blonde guy, you can spot that fucking German a mile off". This reverse-racism is something I would like to ask you guys about. What do you think?
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Reply #19 Schmuckass's post

could education be a solution to this problem?

as a child, I was taught to respect the cultures of different races irrespective of the colour of the skin; I have friends who beliefs are different from mine; we can celebrate all festivals together;

life is short; have fun while you can
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