i have been thinking about this for a long long time. why do we monger. those endless nights. the endless roaming in the streets. knocking the bell on unknown doors.
a demeaning look from stranger (esp if you are a foreigner, they know exactlty what you are doing). the huge amount of money you waste.

having sex with strangers for money is so bad - financially, morally, physically and in all other ways

1. Finanically - we waste atleast $500 for every visit - be it sauna, brothel, massage or private girls.

2.Morally - this is one activity that is looked down upon by the entire society. it is considered sick to exploit the girls.

3. STD - the chances of picking up a dangerous disease is verrrry.. high, yet we are willing to take the risk

4.Physically - the chances of acquiring other diseased like skin diseases, fever, cold etc. are really high since we use the same towels and bed that were used by thousand
other strangers. also the surrounding are very dirty esp if you are going for a low class girl.

5. Psychologically - the fact that you are doing sth immoral that you cannot talk about with your family or anyone else places a huge amount of psychological pressure. the
stress is even more if you are married or have a gf. not to mention the feeling of guilt - either for hurting the prostitute or because you are indulging in such a activity.

Yet we are ready to risk all of it to have sex or get a bj/hj/  Why????

Personally, I continue to monger mainly becuase of two reasons -

1. The fact that you can get sex for money makes it hot (there are thousands of other people who spend days together to attract and nail a girl)

2. I don`t like normal sex in that nomal sex is just not enough. i want sth more - a deep bj or some ass licking etc. sth kinky. you can`t get that from a gf

3. I am addicted. i don`t know why. it started when i was in high school in thailand and my friends forced me to go to a brothel. it has been 10 years and I have not been able to get over it. somehow magically all my problems seem to disappear when i am with a paid girl in a locked room.

    

you think too much ... dick and head !!!   

I do think it is a valid question that needs to be answered for many of us. It needs to be answered simply so that we understand ourselves better and not so we can learn to avoid doing it or become judgemental about it.

I am convinced the answer for each person is different. For me, mostly answering you point by point.. see below:


I have yet to meet a GF that costs less than $100 per visit. Some bring the average up to $250. I won't even start talking about what my ex-wife cost me while we were married or what see still costs me today! She must be averaging the $800 by now and it goes up as each monthly payment gets settled.

Costs are everywhere with a GF. Whether it is the dinner, taxi, or the money she took for you to buy something for you you do not need or the small stuff she encourages you to buy to make your place more homly (for her), ...

Once a kid comes into the plan, from a cost perspective it just goes off the charts. Specially when the visits stop (divorce, or other).

A WG has a clear cost per visit. In my industry, corporations and banks pay millions per year to be capable of understanding what their costs will be and trying to neutralize "moving" and unpredicatable (unplannable) costs.


This is for each and everyone to see. I strongly believe it is WRONG and SICK to exploit girls. The complications HK law puts on the trade might make it even more likely that WGs can not protect themselves. It comes from a fake-prudeness concept where the industry is best kept out of sight and out of parlement discussions.

In general though, I do hope that it is only a minority of WG that are being exploited. At the end of the day, it is to each of us to help avoid the exploitation. We can't start investigating each and every case to figure it out. During the interrogation we would probably even be charged.. But when you do have a doubt whether the girl is underaged or not, walk away or ask for ID. If you do have the feeling the girl might be there completly against her will, walk away.

Apart from true forms of exploitation that are unexcusable, the great majority of women (WG or Civi) is in it for money in some form or another. Most want you to take care of them even when they can take care of themselves. Taking care of them could mean paying the rent and the fridge food and her skirts. Or it could just mean a fixed price well known in advance that limits the relationship to a fixed length of time and within a restricted domain.

I believe the society is wrong in condemning the industry. I believe it is even "more wrong" to let the society make you feel good or bad about what you are doing. You should have your own mind and proudly follow your own principles and thoughts. Don't let an idiotic concept of the masses judge you.


There is absolutely no question that WGs are much more likely to carry STDs and transmit them to punters. Don't you just wish you could press the "STD reset button" on WGs just before touching her?

The only poor man's counter-argument I can think of is, GFs and wifes often lure you in a false sense of security. If you believe your GF/wife has not yet betrayed you, remember that it is unlikely you are right. Also they most likely went for hard-core predators that are possibly half as active as the pro WG. Those hard-core predators are however less likely to take precautions than the "real pros".


Maybe I am being thick, but living in a SAR with 7 million people squeezed in such a tiny territory, I am not sure WGs are the biggest danger here.


While I might not mention it to my mom, nor generally to most of the opposite sex, I actually don't really keep it much of a secret. Of course, I do not know you. I can only try to guess you are probably keeping it a secret because you feel guilty and you live dependant on other people's thoughts about you. I am working on my issues on the later dependancy. But I got rid of guilt. Try to find out why you feel guilty. If it is really wrong for you then stop mongering! But do try to feel good about yourself because you are happy with your actions.

I hardly ever saw a WG when I had a GF/wife. I guess everyone has his own needs and own reasons to go punting. Everyone will have his own answer why he goes for WG.


Bottom line for me:
I had plenty of free fun with one night stands in Asia. It is not because I am a stunner nor because I make crazy promises. I am absolutely unromantic about it and make it clear straight up that I have no interest in anything lasting. Still most start dreaming about long term relationships or even marriage! Plenty fall in love. For me, going to WGs is the fairest, least exploiting means I have to get some fun.

That is some reply, deserving of karma.  I ain't a Lord yet though.

For me, the bottom line for guys mongering is:
1) Pure unadulterated sex, plain and simple, with the power to decide when, where and how the sex is. Power is a great aphrodisiac.
2) Taste of the forbidden fruit.

As for guys (with GF or wife) punting, each punter has to work out his own issues (be it guilt, moral, risk). Don't think fellow punters should judge.

You got laid ten yrs in a brothel, and you still can't get over it??? It must have been one hell of a bang. On a serious note, for me, "financially" is not a concern, as mongering motivates me to work harder and has improved my ability to save in order to cover my tracks.  Never really thought about the "psychological" aspect.  Never seen myself as hurting the pro except for some slight physical  discomfort which I quickly try to remedy by doing what she feels more comfortable with (if anything I'm giving a helping hand to her and family - that's why I always tip handsomely).  Not really sure why handing money over makes it hot, but I love jumping in the shower with a complete stranger (a female, that is ).  "addiction" and "variety" ring true for me at least.  Unless I get my fix, I become a miserable , depressing shit to be around with.  After a WG visit, I'm almost on cloud nine, which makes homelife more tolerable for me and wife.

[ Last edited by  Thai-delight at 25-5-2009 03:53 ]

As SV verbosely states: it's net/net for some of us it's about the same as a having a GF. Costs are about the same, variety is better.

I don't buy into the exploitation angle. That's religious brainwashing. Most of the punters who have been reporting here treat the WGs respectfully, and we pay them more than 10x what they could make at "regular" jobs; so where's the exploitation.  In return they help us live out our fantasies and generally enjoy a sex life that's detached from our other social interactions. If this didn't help us, none of us would be doing it.

-G

"1. Finanically - we waste atleast $500 for every visit - be it sauna, brothel, massage or private girls.

2.Morally - this is one activity that is looked down upon by the entire society. it is considered sick to exploit the girls.

3. STD - the chances of picking up a dangerous disease is verrrry.. high, yet we are willing to take the risk

4.Physically - the chances of acquiring other diseased like skin diseases, fever, cold etc. are really high since we use the same towels and bed that were used by thousand
other strangers. also the surrounding are very dirty esp if you are going for a low class girl.

5. Psychologically - the fact that you are doing sth immoral that you cannot talk about with your family or anyone else places a huge amount of psychological pressure. the
stress is even more if you are married or have a gf. not to mention the feeling of guilt - either for hurting the prostitute or because you are indulging in such a activity."

This is singly the stupidest list of reasons not to monger.   Three of the five I can list as reasons for not playing golf.  If you were going to make up lists of why things are bad, you'd never do anything.   Not only is your reasoning stupid its also completely wrong.  "chances of picking up a dangerous disease is verrrry.. high"  According to who?  Oh, they might be higher than if you don't monger, but very high? Come on! High would be 3 in 10 so very high would be 5 in 10, do you get a STD 1/2 of the time you bang a whore?  I don't.  Psychologically, because you can't tell this to your family?  Do you tell your mom that you fucked your girl friend up the ass?  I don't!  I tell it to this, and other boards, filled up with like minded people.  

Dude, I noticed on your profile that you are a 'newbie", with this sort of fucked up logic, you'll always be a "Newbie".  Now get over your self induced fears and mental problems and bang some whores, then tell us about it.  Thats why we're here, to listen!  We care, we care a lot!

need to work on your logic a bit there bro ... I counted 3 (yes counted 3 times just to make sure) ...

Here are mine

1. price is MUCH less than GF / Wife / Mistress - like, an order of magnitude or so.  

2. complete flexibillity with no complications, no demands, no time wasted on movies / dinners / walks on the beach / etc.  

Need any more?  

Seriously, you can indeed meet girls who were forced or degraded into selling their bodies.  If you have a conscience, check if she's a willing participant before getting undressed.  But you can also meet well-adjusted young women who value the independence THEY get from getting money instead of flowers / jewellery / meals they don't like / etc.  And they enjoy getting laid.  

Nuff said?