Agreed. I've already got a hard enough time finding the best looking WGs in Donguan. If it was legalized, I would have to show up at karaokes at 3pm instead of 7pm!

We use to have a quick dinner at 530 and will head straight to the KTV after that! Normally will be in the room by 630! hahaha! good old days!

just got a call from my boss! I'll be heading to beijing next month! Any good place to punt there?

I have been visiting DG (factory) for some time now and they are always trying to get me to stay over. I always tell them that DG is no good for me. I always stay in Shekou.

The reason i say this is there are girls in the office who want to take to a Karaoke bar and dinner etc but I love Shekou

Sooner or later I am going to have to stay in DG though.

I do not know the area at all!

Any advice???

""....Sooner or later I am going to have to stay in DG though.....""

You're KIDDING aintcha?  Hafta stay?  Like wild horses couldn't drag you there??

Let me put it this way bro - you experience DG once and I'm pretty sure you'll be hooked like most of us here.
No more over-the-hill ladies pushing you for drinks wth promises of "great times" in Shekou - no, its gonna be a completely different experience - but you'll find out for yourself what it is that keeps soooo many bros coming back to CP/DGG time and time again.

Only after you've experienced it, then you should come back and tell us how you fare. Shekou has its charms - especially the smattering of English spoken there - but if its GREAT SEX with good looking young girls you're after, it's DGG hands down over Shekou

Just IMHO of course!!
SEAJ

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LMAO!

I did not mean it like that bro, I meant these suppliers want to take me out for the night.

Meaning there will be girls with us. I agree to a certain extent about Shekou, but they do not push me for drinks any more because they know me

LOL!!  I know... was just having a bit of fun...yanking your chain a bit...LOL!

But OTH - I do mean it when I say that you should take up your supplier's offer to take you partying in DGG; it should be the quintessential Chinese KTV experience which is NOT gonna be like Shekou - which is very much geared for the Foreign punter in Shenzhen.  You find very few local Chinese punters going there, the same way that you see very few Local Hong Kong Chinese in Wanchai.

A whole new bright horizon is right there - just waiting for you to venture into!  
Good luck and good punting!!

SEAJ

Thank you very much for the answer ! it was just logic in fact.

Went to Macau on 16 July 2011 with my friend. Straight goto Lisboa Hotel and show my friend where is the racetrack girls. Got this info from this forum and decided to sit near window so can see all the girls walking up and down. Quite funny and many quite pretty.

After dinner decided to proceed to Grand Lisboa. On the way my friend ask a guy how to get to Grand Lisboa Suddenly another guy join in and wanted to show us the way. Asking us come from where, pass us the call card and insisting us to visit their casino. We said we dunno how to gamble and he insisting we follow them to their casino and teach us how gamble. This conversation takes about 15mins until we reached Grand Lisboa with some stop over talk what they going to offer even WG to our hotel room. My noob friends said he from china but i cant even speak mandarin so i just zip my mouth all the way. Is this a trap or their business is so desperate....

Petay, they're your supplier right? As in, you pay their bills? If that's the case, demand that they not bring girls to the KTV! Or better yet, demand that they only bring the good looking girls from the factory to the KTV!

I hope NOT!!

On a customer/Chinese supplier relationship, it is actually de-rigeur that the supplier pays the bill to "entertain" the customer.  In fact, they will usually have at least one guy or even a team whose main job it is to go out and entertain clients.

If it is expected that Petay pays the bill, then I'd suggest Petay NOT go with them; these kind of things does get very expensive for anytime you have Chinese party goers out on the town "on the company's account" they go crazy spending!! This is quite apparent in places like Goodview at Dalang and Crown Prince in  Huangjiang etc (close to CP) where locals and factory owners gets VIP treatment...and also spends like drunken sailors.

And as far as bringing along their own female employees to the KTV - yes if you want to have a quiet, boring and respectable night on the town - but definitely NO if it is your intention to have a GREAT wild night followed by everybody screwing up a storm afterwards!  All depends on who's paying I suppose.

SEAJ

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First thing first - you may want to post your post as a separate thread in the Monger's lounge as the subject seems interesting/probably deserving of an audience of ALL the 141 members i/o just those of us who enjoy it here on this thread.

Anyway, back to your question - must be that you guys must look flush with cash!!

Who I think you've met is probably a Chip boy; these are guys whose job it is to bring guys to the high-limits table and supply you with their chips on which they make a commission.  And its not only an initial one-time transaction - you'll be "borrowing" and returning chips to them all night long as you win/lose at the table and thus this can be very lucrative for them.  They usually attract gamblers from China - and with Chinese gamblers - alongside catering to their every whim (whether on or off the table i.e. food, drink and any and all entertainment - including girls) the chip boys also needs to provide "credit" to them i.e. the gambler only pays AFTER his sojourn in Macau.

As you can see, the chip boys really do take a great credit risk with Chinese gamblers - and if they can rope in guys like you - heck, they LOVE it!  So yes, IMHO this guy's offer is quite genuine - but beware that because of the very nature of their job - you ARE dealing with quite an unsavory character - and you'd better be "worth his time!"

Just from the little I know about this

SEAJ

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Nah bro!

They pay for everything, except my hotel! They wined and dined me in Shekou a few weeks back. All I kept thinking was "I hope one of the bar girls does not walk past and start shouting my name..."

Not what I meant bros! I meant at the end of the day, you're paying the bills. As in, you're their supplier, so you pay the. Of course they have to pay the karaoke bill, but in reality that's coming out of your pocket still!

As for bring the girls along, I've got some suppliers who've purposely hired some really good looking sales ladies who I wouldn't mind taking out of a serious environment and throwing some drinks and sexual innuendos at them to get them into the sack!


That would be embarrassing! That happened to me once when I was dropping off a new customer who's quite religious and doesn't punt at a hotel in Dongguan and the mama-san of another KTV came up to me hugging me, grabbing my arm and saying how she hasn't seen me in such a long time!

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PLease do me a favour and consolidate your 2 replies into 1 - C+P one of the posts and edit it into the other and then delete the first post you've C+P'd to the other. Sorry - and Thanks as its sorta de-rigeur on this thread/Mods/seniors expect us to self-monitor/probaby hold us to higher standards.

And as far as higher final costs to Petay - I would not think too much about this as just about all factories does have a budget already set aside for these kind of entertaining which is already in-built in their pricing.

Like I said, they would even have actual guy/teams to handle ONLY the entertaining part of client relationship - and such entertainment is NOT limited to entertaining clients;  I have gone quite a few times with these client relationship managers who are friends - and like I said, no holds barred for these nights.  You go to one of the KTV's with these known big spenders - all the staff/mommies/gals will bend over backwards for you. You walk in with the actual factory owner, man they'd practically eat your shit, that's how bad that is!!

SEAJ

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Normally the supplier will pay for everything except the hotel. Was in Guangzhou and foshan And the supplier set everything up from dinner then to sauna then to ktv. All bills paid by them. When we arrive at the ktv, the girls are already lined up waiting for us. He knows that I like young girls and all the girls on the line are no more than 22 yrs old. Fantastic treatment. They will nego for you as well and sometime pay for you to take the girls back for overnighters. They just go all out to make sure you havea nice time.

Looks like I will be in DG next Wednesday/Thursday ha ha ha!!!

Flying to Bangkok tonight for a business trip! Meeting an old colleague in the 'famous' Suzie Wong's - I have NEVER been to Bangkok yet so looking forward to it. I have had a trip planned twice but fell through last minute both times

I have heard SW's is a little pricey but it is only a quick drink!

Of course I will have to have 1 or 2 nights in Pattaya also

@ xavierkk - one of the girls in the office actually has told me to my face she wants me to be her China BF   quite fit too and perfect English!

Working girls putting you in the shit!
It also happened to me one time in Shekou - I was with my old boss and two WG's on their way to work came behind me and put her hands over my eyes and said my name. I was sat at Starbucks I swear I hardly knew my boss at this point, I crapped my pants!

They sat down & I did not know what to do!! This guy was a friend of my fathers... I had only knew him maybe 3 months but never spoke to him as he was always away. I introduced the girls to him and their faces realised they had possibly put me in the shit.

My boss asked me how I knew them so I told him they work in a bar. 3 hours later my boss was dancing on the pool tablewith bra's on his head

I worked for him for 2 years before he retired last year, the best boss ever! Although my current boss is a total piss head too!

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Been reading up on PSE ie pornstar experience and am wondering if something like that is available in Hk? Wanna try something different. U know book them for an overnighters and just take it slow and easy. Usual 141 scene and walk up still fun and all but looking for something to kick start the old engine and get the mojo back!!!

IMHO - what's available via the walk-up/Hotel walk-in is quite SOP - ain't much of variety on the service and I'd opine certainly not gonna be PSE.

The only thing I can think of is of course Wanchai and the Pinay/Thai gals;  These gals are more "world-wise" and more used to servicing Foreigners and the "varied" tastes of the International mongers and thus more likely to have more goodies in their bag of tricks.

Another suggestion - since you say that you'll even have time for overnight and since you just want to get your mojo back - is for you to go up to Chang Ping - an easy 70 minutes on the direct train and REALLY live it large for probably less than you'd spend for an overnighter in Hong Kong.

Get a hold of an agent/guide who will help you plan out your "itinerary" which should include at least a Virgin Sauna earlier in the day (Circa RMB 600 - and this is pretty close to a PSE experience as they do have a "Menu" to fulfil), perhaps a footy (circa RMB 50 /hour) at Pozolim to re-charge, followed by you joining up with other guys (that these agents many times arrange for) at a KTV.  Expect RMB 300-500 for the party and followed by an overnighter with your gal (RMB 800-1,500). If you REALLY can Keep your mojo up, then you can also just do the KTV gal short time (RMB 500-1000) and ask the agent to point you to the night market or BBS for another pop (150-250 ST/400-600 O/N)- your choice of price level/quality on all this.

Hey - perhaps you can even ask Petay nicely and hope to join up with him if possible/allowable by his supplier!!  Then you 2 can be 2 peas in a pod!!  LOL

SEAJ

Ps- you guys sure are a tough audience!!
SEAJ the Karma Whore feels SOOOOO ignored that even newbies gets way more K's!!
OOOOOOPS!!

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DaBestHK: would definitely be into japanese porn stars. Do you have any idea if they have a webpage or the location in macau or contact details? cheers bro! Did a google on optus, japanese av and macau and nothing of relevence came up!

Just search the db here....optus the kinky king...ohhhh! Hahahaha,,,,will drop a line in his thread and ask for more details.....silly me!

IMO a full PSE involves full out dirty talking ("fuck me baby, fuck me hard, fuck my ass") which girls in CP just can't do. I did once got a CP girl who tried the dirty talk and was saying "fick me, fick me" which I found to be quite humorous.

I agree with the Wanchai route as you can gauge WG's playfulness and english level. You can even negotiate with them on the spot what to get, i.e. CIM, COF, even anal.

Japanese PSE style just doesn't do it for me. The the Japanese pornstars are hot, but the fact that they always seem to be in pain is quite concerning.

SEAJ,

I have already Nuked the Idea of "Legalize CP"! However, I hope that things stay the same there for Many Moons so that I can partake in some R & R

As for Pozolim, there are Hot Ladies there? My friends who have visited there, told me that there were cuties there but no Hoties! They said the Hot Mamas usually work the KTV or Saunas?  I guess they are not VIPs like yourself, so the Manager does not send out the Hotties for my friends?  Have any Managers or Agents you can point me to?

As for casualties of a Drug Raid in KTV?  What happens to the patrons in the KTV, assuming that they are there just having a good time and singing and playing dice games and do not have any drugs on them?  Do they also get thrown in the slammer?  When they raid the KTV is it all the rooms or are they selective?

Lastly, there are tour guides for DG?  Where do you find them, and verify they are Legit? Wouldn't want one to bring you to an empty Flat and Rip one off?!! Thanks for looking over my Rook q's!