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Reply #1420 JackTheBat's post

good points Jack.

another very effective scam relates to names we know and trust. It could be a bank, eBay, Facebook, Paypal etc. You will get an email from them that appears totally official. It will direct you to a website that looks totally official. You will be asked to update your password and log in details for security reasons... again, seems so very legit. As you will expect, what you are actually doing is sending the scammer your details via a "facade" web page.

Warning: Legitimate businesses never ask you to do things this way.

look out for 2 things... the email address that the message is sent to you from, ie. if it's something like:

[email protected] or
[email protected]

etc it is a scam.

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SEAJ   14-5-2011 13:31  Karma  +1   Thanks
JackTheBat   13-5-2011 22:42  Karma  +5   100%, TT. feel free to expand on the topic if u like. thx.
paladin310   13-5-2011 16:31  Acceptance  +2   Also excellent advice.
chelu   13-5-2011 14:35  Acceptance  +1   Phishing
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Reply #1420 JackTheBat's post

I know of Mitnick from several different sources, all random and unconnected (attorneys, hacker world, etc.) to each other. He's a true piece of work. Last I heard, he was giving computer security seminars to Colombian "businessmen" at some outrageous daily fee. Hope the nice folks there got their money's worth.

What I found most interesting about him is that his forte is phones..and I don't think he's doing a lot of security work in that area, but it's been a while.

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JackTheBat   13-5-2011 22:44  Karma  +5   right again, p310. there's more from Canuck Guy as well...thx bro.
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I'll add more later, but I just want to put this in play:

Any "prize" that is given only exists as a result of people doing something that is, on aggregate, more valuable than the prize being given out.  Lotteries pay out millions, but collect tensof millions.   Contests give away a car or a trip, but collection valuable data on consumers at an incredibly high rate, which has more value than the prize.   Basically, most prize giveawaysare designed to obtain income, information, or to get a consumer to perform an act / make a purchase / visit a store that they otherwise would not do.

Emails that say "you won millions" are always scams because they fail that simple test.  You have done nothing to merit the prize.   You have not fulfilled your part of the bargain, so there is no way that the prize can exist.

More later.  But start with simple logic and the rest is simple.

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SEAJ   14-5-2011 13:30  Karma  +1   Yes, good reminder - simple logic!
JackTheBat   13-5-2011 22:45  Karma  +5   excellent distillation, CG. don't forget the EXIF data on fotos...see comment b ...
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feel free to add anything that contributes to this particular canon, as scams are everywhere--they can be Net-based but the real masters like Mitnick use ALL types of methods to compile a profile. so when the hammer comes down, the phone call/email you'll get will be so beliebable you will never guess that you are about to have everything stripped from you.

there's a thread on this, including some excellent info on the EXIF data embedded into digital fotos contributed by bro Stonecold here:
http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... &extra=page%3D1

Ars Technica has a breathtaking example of hackers from Anonymous getting root-access to a firm's server (hint: this is the WORST thing that can happen) by posing as a co-CEO of the firm. it's two pages, but the second page has the actual emails...it is a bit technical so if u get a bit confused, just skim. the insanely BRILLIANT/TERRIFYING stuff happens on the second page:

http://arstechnica.com/tech-poli ... y-the-aftermath.ars

briefly, the firm in question was trying to get fat USgov contracts by promising to plant fake WikiLeaks documents, that's why they were targeted. the firm, HBGary, was essentially destroyed by Anonymous. AT has other articles on this saga, but read the above article. you'll never be targeted by people this skilled, but it shows you what CAN be done.

JtB

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SEAJ   14-5-2011 13:29  Karma  +1   Always great info on things internet. thanks.
paladin310   14-5-2011 01:46  Acceptance  +2   Correct again..forget what they call this particular term of art.
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Thanks for the pimp of my poll SEAJ bro, even though it's in the same post of a email/SMS scam!

I should do the same for your poll and drag it out of obscurity for you

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Reply #1419 SEAJ's post

There are many different breeds of parasites in Vegas...my favorite is the so-called "VIP Host", who is some guy who basically knows a limo driver and maybe people who are managers at clubs. Even you don't have to know the management to get in.

He charges some stupid fee, $200-$500 to do stuff for you that you could have done yourself (book limo, negotiate table and drink minimum at the club)it not being so lazy.  Then you are supposed to tip him on top of it.

There's no magic to getting into a popular club-you just want to walk in and cut through the line...have a $20 ready for the doorman and look presentable. Bottle service is always negotiable, and the deal is usually better the night you want to come in-trust me there's always a table available for a guy willing to promise to spend $500 or more.

Now, if you have that kind of dough to blow..well, then maybe it works for you, and there are a couple of guys who are truly pros. But most are a joke and a fraud. Speaking of pimping..let me pimp this site for y'all. Gives excellent advice for the Vegas clubber.

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SEAJ   14-5-2011 13:29  Karma  +1   Good intel on how things are these days in LV. Thanks
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not quite sure if its been asked before, but does anyone know the holiday season and or 'off' seasons for mongering

i ask as i had slim pickings from my last trip during the christmas holiday break

the only time off is during the christmas period and made a trip over to hk to escape the heat in oz and wanted some r&r with local company

during that time, my regular WG's were away on annual leave as well?!?

even my 'never fail' SW in east tst were empty around mid night... wtf???

needless to say, the lonely nights were unbearable and finally succumbed to flying in my regular WG at my expense... bleh...

forgive my rant, just needed to vent

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SEAJ   14-5-2011 13:27  Karma  +1   Let me take a guess. Your prefered flavour are Pinays? C below. Tks.
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As for EXIF data on images, there is a whole big deal here that could be getting bigger as we go on.   Cell phones are tracking you (IPhone and android for sure), not only with GPS but also by triangulating various wireless devices, cell towers, and wi-fi connections.  If you have GPS enabled (and many do for at least some functions), your images may be tagged with location information.  Already, they are tagged with time, which can be an issue.

POwerful stuff!

Paladin:  VIP hosts come in a few different flavors.  The sucky ones just have their hands out for your money, over charge you, use their expensive friends that are kicking them back cash, etc.  The good ones are incredible people who can open any door at any time, can score the tickets you want, can get you the right table for the right game, get the dealers switched if you like, and so on.  They of course can arrange your room for you, keep a hotel limo for you on standby, and even arrange air travel by private jet if you are on the west coast.  If you roll high enough, they can make your day

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SEAJ   14-5-2011 13:28  Karma  +1   Powerful stuff. Thanks!
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Reply #1426 paladin310's post

Am no longer familiar with Las Vegas hosts as I'm no longer a big gambler there as its just too far away.  But I do remember going back eons ago the Caesar's guide was stellar and arranged not only accomodation/food/drinks and flights from Hong Kong to LV - but also to New York where I had some business to take care of.  And even extended credit to me then - something which I believe no longer happens.

On Chang Ping guides, there are of course good ones, bad ones and mediocre ones like in all professions. Their main source of in come is the kick-back given by the KTV managers etc, and depending on the volume they are able to come up with, such kick-backs can vary from 3% to as high as 20%.

What you gotta watch out for is those guys who pretend as if they're just arranging KTV parties as a favour without coming out clean as to what they actually are. Then there are those who would charge a supposed fixed fee for all you can drink that night (i.e. RMB 250 for beer, 300 for white wine, 350 for red, 450 for hard liquor etc) and then smuggle in to the KTV room their own bootleg/fake liquor which has been known to make some guys really ill.  Like I said, they come in all shades!!

SEAJ
Edit ps - I just now remember the name of my host back then - Hop Louey Wu!!  
Believe it's OK to post his name here now as he must now only be history! (hope hope!)
Besides which, we ain't got no Mods to Delay Me No More when I step out of line!!!  LOL!

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Reply #1427 cookiemonsta's post

Let me take a guess.

Your prefered flavour are Pinays?

Well, if that is the case, then of course you're gonna get slimpickings - anywhere outside of PI - during Christmas.  You see, Christmas is a BIG thing in PI - and most of these gals will go back to their families and back to being good Catholic gals during Yuletide.  But as far as other ntionalities i.e. Thai, Vietnamese, PRC, I THINK that they'd be out in force like during any other season - EXCEPT during Chinese New year - when most locals as well as those who also celebrate the Lunar New year -will lay down tools.

SEAJ
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Jeez!!!
I hope i don't get in trouble continuing my favorite activity - encouraging and saying thank you to those who participate here by giving them a token of my appreciation.


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Xplayer   14-5-2011 14:19  Karma  +1   Thanks for the info. Reply below




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Reply #1421 TonyToro's post

one other thing I want to add, NEVER ever log in to anything via a link provided in an email. If you get an email you believe is legit, simply go to the actual web page and log in that way... NEVER "click on the link embedded in the email" to navigate to the web site... it may not be "the" website.

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SEAJ   14-5-2011 14:19  Karma  +1   Good reminder. Thanks
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Reply #1430 SEAJ's post

Glad to know that except for Chinese New Year, the PRC ladies will be around the rest of the year. In HK, I really enjoy the PRC HGs and (so far) 1 really hot KG. Haven't tried any of the other nationalities yet, as I get my European fix when I am in Europe. There are just too many hot girls from the PRC to ignore.

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Reply #1432 Xplayer's post

OK - since this IS the "fun and Games" thread....you guys notice the total absence of Mods here the past couple days?  
Missing from the whole forum??

OK MODS - come back to life!!

OK.... here's something to REALLY get y'all to come back:

You Mods are a bunch of WANKERS!!!

Ok, lets see the response.

LOL!!!  LOL!!!  LOL!!

SEAJ

Ps edit - I think AND HOPE that they've all gone ON STRIKE - something which I fully can sympathize with, at them being so badly undermined and would fully endorse.  
Good luck to you Mods!!
Respects - plenty of respects!


Pps edit - just checked on each of their member's CP - they've basically ALL checked in within the last few hours, even posted up something - which have NOT appeared anywhere on the public board side - so they must still be hard at discussions in their own Mod's thread.  Let's all wish them good luck and give them all our support. Thanks

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kaka   17-5-2011 15:11  Acceptance  -1   don't be naughty.




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Reply #1430 SEAJ's post

PRC ladies actually... my regular said it was because business was slow around the christmas holidays
could be just an off period at east tst?

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SEAJ   14-5-2011 20:10  Karma  +1   SRY-can't understand Y PRC gals not around duirng Xmas. Strange.
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link-shortening

the "short links" (tiny.url and bit.ly) are convenient, esp when using Twitter. what they do is take a long URL and use a shorter one which redirects to the orig.

sadly, like many useful things, it can be turned to evil: the tiny.url actually links to a phishing site. for this reason, as TT suggests, ALWAYS check your URL in the small strip at the top of your browser to make sure you're going where u supposed to. say for example it reads "http://www.case 84759568789DF99.trouble.paypal.com," and there's a big WARNING saying yr PayPal acct and u need to click RIGHT NOW to save your balance.wow, that wasn't what you were expecting?

well, check the URL. it's so wrong...plus PayPal doesn't send out these nonsense-warnings anyway. this is a classic phish. someone's hiding behind a shortened URL.

if you KNOW the person listing the shortened URL, and where it ought to go, there's seldom a problem. TT uses "LINK HERE" and underlines it, and it goes to another part of this board. the process is known, and anything unusual will be noticed right away. very low risk of compromise, as TT is doing it right. and as he also mentions, the links embedded in emails are the ones to watch.

always, if anything seems out of place, check the URL toolbar. i've seen some of the fake "bank" sites and u will NOT be able to tell them from the real ones. although some have spelling/grammar or other style-mistakes...

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SEAJ   14-5-2011 20:11  Karma  +1   LOL-Yeah But TT's link ALWAYS go to only 1 place! LOL!
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Reply #1435 JackTheBat's post

Got a question for you.

We HAD a short period of time when the comment field when "rating" was expanded to 140 characters. I've now noticed that it has been brought back down again - and I suspect its because like Twice said (when replying to my querie as to why Newbies were totallly banned from rating) , its because Spammers etc were using this comment field to SPAM/FLOOD/HIDDEN LINKS etc.

Is there ANY way to NOT allow links in the comment field?

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Hey mongerer and other Nookie Newbies - your right to rate has now been restored.  The character field is now limited to 80 Characters - I just saw 2xW's post in the senior's discussion forum announcing this FYI.


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Reply #1436 SEAJ's post

hmm.. how if it was possible to censor certain words in the comments field like .com .net .org ? It may be able to help in curbing the comment spam that is occurring.

alternatively, how about disabling the customized comments in ratings for n00bies, so that they only be able to select the preset comments and cannot spam with their own messages.
after a user reaches a level above n00b, the customized rating is 'unlocked' and user can write custom comments normally as now.

Just my thought, don't know if could be implemented

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Ipad is a bad choice for writing reports and trying to attach photos (you csn't)  

This isn't a review but more like a scouting report. I'm not in hong kong that often soit's better to write these things down while it's still fresh in my head.

My bucket list thus far has been a bust. I met up with an old girlfriend to hang out with but then she decided not to leave my side, thus limiting my mongering time. I have blisters on my feet from walking everywhere and doing the tourist thing. They hurt.i'm thinking of getting a foot massage if only to temporarily ease the pain. I've neverhad any paid massage without the happy ending and feel weird not getting it haha.

Streetwalkers do have a certain appeal to me though. I have no idea if i would actually say yes to one but that's only becausd of their reputation for poor service. Then again just yesterday in yuen long i paid $350 hkd to bang an 18 year old whose servicewas a meager 1 out of 5 and i'm only giving her a 1 because she was willing to fuck at all. I also like the sluttiness of how streetwalkers dress. What heterosexual man doesn't?  So with this in mind i headed off to temple street -- twice.

The first time was thursday. I was in the area doing some shopping and saw that thevendors were setting up at 3 pm. I have never been there that early but did catch four ladies, one doable with her push up top and who looked to be in her early 30s. They were on the west side just south of kansu street. I have sneaky photos of her too.

I returned to the same area friday night at 11 pm after a day in macau ending with blue balls. It's bad enough that i get change back in macau patacas but one store evengave me mainland chinese coins. Anyways, half the vendors were closing shop but more importantly there were no girls whatsoever to be found!

Tonight i headed out to hari's in HIGM to scout the freelancers. Saw a few russians and filipinas but nothing stood out. I also felt weird going solo and left after sitting for 15 minutes. I returned here at 11:30 pm and same thing. I'm here til wednesday morning if anyone wants to join me at hari's. I imagine that it would be worst on a sunday or monday night.

After hari's i went to check out the east tsim sha tsui streetwalkers. This was strictly a scouting mission as i didn't have the cash on me and my hotel room was a mess with valuables just lying around. Nothing along mody road so i went to that park beside The regal kowloon hotel and sat down to rest my weary legs and blistered feet. Within a few minutes i get the eye from a mamasan. She looks mid 40s and while i wouldn't mind banging her she is not my first choice. I check the three girls she's towing behind and none of them strike my fancy though i could if made to choose. I like themthin and all were medium built. No one was exceptionally attractive either.

She eyes me and i eye her. I decide to keep an eye on them in case i change my mind. In the corners of the plaza are club paris, bboss and Another sauna i  don't remember. maybe i should try one of those.

On the opposite side and near the regal kowloon entrance are four more streetwalkers but they're not dressed to make it obvious. Also they have a guy with them -- a pimp perhaps?  I didnt think they were WGs anymore.

At this point it had been drizzling a bit for a while. Mamasan crossed my path again and finally i take action. She speaks to me in mandarin and i have no idea what she is saying. I tell her so in cantonese and she switches. We actually only talk about the weather. I don't know the hong kong laws regarding communicating with a streetwalker. Anyways her harem has now joined the other ladies by the RK hotel. 8 streetwalkers total!  The male dude is still with them and i still have no idea whT he does.

I call it a night at 11:30 and head back to write this up. I'll try again tomorrow but i dont imagine much happening on a sunday.

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Reply #1438 Freelancer's post

if i'm not mistaken, the guy is also part of the same group... if he's the same old guy then he's the papasan of the group

this group is my reliable back up plan (only if you're not picky)

the ladies available are not of the same caliber as the 141 database
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Reply #1438 Freelancer's post

I am trying to figure out how you can come back from Macau with blue balls.  It's like shooting fish in a barrel over there, except there is no barrel, the fish is taped on the end of the gun (I don't know who wrote that one original, but ta!)

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