Please also read this thread

http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... &extra=page%3D1

What I do not understand why Miss P (if she is real) not try to makes some friends here.
Here are many potential customers for her, why she must insults some nations or origins?
That is not clever from her, in a business view. If she does not like some kind of men,
it gives many ways to say this in a polite manner. Many bros here have been rejected in the past
by WGs for ever reasons. Same, I do not like to fuck every WG too, but this is not my job.

I hope that this thread cools a little bit more down, and that we can talk (if she is real)
more about funny and spicy things. Hopefully, the past has not done too much psychological damage,
and an exchange from Opinions and Experiences will be possible without hate.

Has anyone ever seen these 4 other WGs in her room before? So that means there are 5 WGs sharing the same, tiny, cramped room.
Anyone?

And what about the attack by the angry Asian man on Karen in her room a few days ago?
You know, not Karen, but the other Karen.. I mean, 1 of the 4 girls that she apparently shares a room with, who is also called "Karen" (wink wink).
Anyone know anything about this?

Yeah, me neither.

I believe she meant 4 girls taking turns using the room ... which, for some walk ups, is not uncommon - usually 2 grils or at most 3 that I know off in the past ...

I know wht you mean when you said "taking turns", but Karen doesn't share a room with anyone... she wrote that to throw people off track.

I never seen any other girl in that room besides her, an I visit Champagne at least 3 times a week during the last few years.

Even when she was on the 6th floor, she was by herself.
If you go to the 6th floor right now, you can still see her name written on her old door.. it's just been scribbled out with a
black felt-tip marker.

[ Last edited by  lijianhua at 3-3-2013 23:51 ]

ah... so she's the grouchy one with the grain on her lips...
i mentioned briefly abt this local WG from my previous reports at CC.

http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/viewthread.php?tid=43727
http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/viewthread.php?tid=43451

The girl your tried is call karen but not its not 3F E1? More then one karen?

when I finally realized that Miss.Pumpkin was Karen, I thought back to the thread you wrote (I also commented there aswel),
didn't want to bring up the disgusting rice grain on her lip, but .. yeh, that's her lol

What exactly does "grain on her lips" mean? Is this some kind of slang I am not familiar with?

"grain on her lips" is not a slang..

Karen must have been eating rice with something, and had rice grains stuck on her mouth when she opened the door lol

There was one time when I rang her doorbells, when she opened up, there was a whiff of fried,greasy food coming from inside her room..

[ Last edited by  lijianhua at 4-3-2013 22:07 ]

I gotta say that I find it a shame that we are giving MissP (Karen) such a hard time here.  Yes, she might have tried to conceal some things about her identity and her exact places of employment or whatever -- but dont we all?  I reveal myself as a punter to certain WGs at certain moments under certain circumstances.  I dont walk around with a sign saying "I fuck hookers" all day.  

So why is everyone being aggressive with her?

Yes, she said some racist shit -- and got deservedly bashed for it -- fair enough.  Unfortunate she feels this way.  Though I wonder if she simply lashed out because she was being attacked.  People do that...

I, for one, would love to hear her stories and point of view on our hobby...  It is not common we have a gal participate.

(and my my, she appears to have an awesome body!).

I think some bros have taken it too far by blatantly calling her a liar, but I think most of us have kept our cool and just asked meaningful questions. She has been the one who has ferociously defended herself and played the role of victim. I understand she might feel ganged up on, and she has a different culture that might lead her to believe we are all being hostile towards her, but I think most of us are being polite and respectful to her, while also trying to get her to answer some of the questions that have been raised.

Either way it seems like it doesn't matter so much anymore; it looks like some of the finger-pointers have scared her off I'd be surprised to see Miss P again(other than when I plan to go visit her )

I look forward to your review on Miss P, you are braver than me!

I would be interested in how much you will be charged and I hope you don't have a small wang!

Obe

And he doesn't shoot his load in a minute ... Gone in 60 seconds

She lied directly to me so I posted she blatantly lied. Why is that taking it too far? I was polite and respectful at all times. Not sure how else you would have taken it.

It is actually simple what happened here and to her that made her so pissed. She lost the online part of her business because everyone found out she works in a walk up, tried to cover it up. Guys called her out on the lies and she's mad cause she got caught on the lie.

Did you ask her via voice or mail/SMS ?

Well maybe that's it.  She certainly earns far more per punt on CL than on 141.

But:

It seems to me that very, very, very few punters who know about 141 would bother with CL in HK to find WGs.  141 is infinitely easier, cheaper and more reliable. (Actually, this forum is proof of this - we talk about all sorts of punting methods in HK:  Wanchai, massage, WU, HG, yet a miniscule of 141 reports mention CL ever in this city - we all know there are better options.)  No, I bet the bulk of clients she finds on craigslist dont use 141.  They are different clientele (likely a lot more foreigners and tourists who dont know the local scene or its pricing).  Seems like smart business to me...  I knew a different gal, a filipina, who worked the bars and also had ads with an escort agency in town - she would earn 3 or 4 times as much from each punt with the agency, but it wasnt steady-enough business for her (hence still working the bars).  

I think MissP was trying to correct something that was said about her that she didnt like, while still trying to distance her WU-identity.  I dont know her rationale, but I do know that If someone here tried to reveal my identity ("hey, wander, isnt your real name xxx?  You work at xxx, right?" I would be forced to lie as well - and would having flaming nuclear arrows flying outta my ass at the bro who was doing it!".  Wouldnt you?

I dont know her or her mind enough to defend her, but I did find our tone was needlessly aggressive from the get go.  And that's a shame...  I've never seen a WG participate here and it would have been interesting.

I think the review would be a fun one! God help me if she sees it though! I'd probably get sued! lol

As for LB, they don't call him LB for nothing... Sounds to me she's used to 12" monsters... at half that, I'm sure I'd be no good to her! You could give me an A for effort though!

As for gone in 60 seconds, that depends entirely on her... I'm usually good for at least 15(minutes ), but if she works her WG magic on LB, who knows!


On a more serious note, I understand why she's doing what she's doing(the whole double life thing with CL ads and walkup business too): more money. Personally, I've got no problem with it. If a richie rich wants to pay for her to come to his compound on the peak, then by all means! Go out there and knock yourself out Miss P!!! On the other hand, I don't understand why she would willingly alienate a large part of her potential walkup clientele. Perhaps the racism carries over to us gweilos too... Maybe she figures we are all loaded and every one of us has a 10,000 sq/ft mansion on the peak; we could build her a house out of bricks of 1,000 bills if we wanted, but us cheap gweilo assholes pinch our pennies and only give her a measly 450/.

Whatever happened to knowing the value of a dollar and working hard for your income? I know many WGs have it tough, but I always try my best to make their life/time with me as pleasant as I can possibly make it. I know probably some punters walk in and expect a girl to ride CG the whole time while they sit back and half fall asleep, but I've always been one to exert my manliness in the sack. After all, I've got the muscles, she has the tenderness. I'm sure there are plenty like me who make WGs lives/money making quite an easy thing. And to reduce the risk of me sounding like a chauvinist asshole, I must also acknowledge the existence of bad punters who make their lives a living hell too. Perhaps thats why we pay as much as we do for it. If it was a walk in the park everytime with every punter perhaps we'd all enjoy a 20% drop in rates! If I haven't just mathematically/financially justified being nice to WGs and treating them well, I don't know how else I can!

[ Last edited by  anon_bear at 5-3-2013 23:54 ]

I didn't think I had a need to continue in this thread but I believe I need to put things into some form of perspective ...

At first, things seemed strange why a WG would suddenly appear in this forum with her knowledge of advanced English and the argumentative tone she set that bordered on belittling bros here. It was strange because what's been reported and discussed about her was almost always complimentary (except her face). It was strange that she would tell us that she never messaged her clients or perspective clients, she charges her higher price because she's selective on her johns and would rather do less then more, she tells us she would never do johns that tries to negotiate her price, she tells us more about herself and her way of thinking without being asked ... she demands that all her pictures (with face and without face) be removed ... all this didn't make much sense on why she's telling us things that may adversely affect her income ...

then the info came out that she also worked as a walk up in CC ... and there were previous reports on her as a walk up ...

*presto*  the clouds parted and the sky cleared ... isn't it clear that she put her foot in her mouth ? everything I mentioned above - almost everything she tried to put into out heads crashed and burned when it was revealed that she worked as a walk up and an outcall ... now, there's nothing wrong with having 2 avenues of income but the way she presented herself here in this forum was with intention and deceit !

It might be interesting or a breath of fresh air when a WG with good English participates here but at a cost of knowing the reliability of what she writes ?   you guys would know better ... or should know better ...

Actually both. SMS then call. She ended up hanging up on me when I asked.