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Reply #119 bbbj's post



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Originally posted by bbbj at 20-12-2011 01:37

... The moment that senior members and especially mods start to get too close to the WG's / Agents and start acting on behalf of them, I think you'll quickly start seeing a ...

Not sure if you were speaking hypothetically, but justed to clarify, I think the mods are very clear on that and don't behave in that way. A good, measured post, bro.

The way I see it, I also think that once a WG agrees to pictures, it is fine to share them. This is the world now and those who don't realise it will in the future. Sharing is at the heart of why we like to take pics. ("Share and care" is a nice thing to say, but let's face it, there is a huge amount of "Look how well I did?!" involved, right?) Yes, it maybe harsh on some WGs and adds another thing for them to be concerned or have regrets over, but nonetheless a good platform to help build.

A punter that wants more than an average relationship with a WG by definition needs to act with agenda, and therefore obviously cannot act for the general mongering masses. We all have such favourite WGs, no? Personally, I read reports on such WGs with a lot of interest, but subscribing to "what's in forum stays in forum", I never bring up the reports or let the info affect my expectations. In fact, I'm extremely careful about revealing the linkage between my forum identity and my "real" one (and indeed those of fellow members), which is another important facet of WIFSIF.

As an aside, we should be viewing use of RA as not a way to make anything secure, but a method of adding a (perhaps token) barrier. RA was originally used to motivate bros into participating in the forum (and often used for text-only reports), rather than to protect WG identities, back in the days when real pics were not that common.




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Reply #117 SEAJ's post

Thanks for your caring...'LIFE MUST MOVE ON', I'm still enjoying my life, my punts, my photoing, nothing changes... mods are the voluntarily on us, we are also voluntarily on this.

Sometime, may be to think what to keep the contirbutors to keep on contributing... need to care about the feeling which is kind of respects too.  Everyone has his own RULER... my RULER is fair and judged.  Even you have the god power, you cannot be reconigned if you don't use it properly.

You may be right on the point about 'IN THEIR OPINION' on mods side... when both parties 'ÓPINION' has different, it will lost the interest to stay and contribute...

May be you don't believe, Goose is the one stilll care about Eng forum, more than me.  I think many bros mis-understand his viewpoint, he never hurts anyone and try his best to help bros.  Sometimes, I saw kind of reply to him is really un-reasonable or over-reacted, I don't see it is necessary.
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Originally posted by happppysex at 20-12-2011 11:27
May be you don't believe, Goose is the one stilll care about Eng forum, more than me.  I think many bros mis-understand his viewpoint, he never hurts anyone and try his best to help bros.  Sometimes, I saw kind of reply to him is really un-reasonable or over-reacted, I don't see it is necessary.

Happppy, I can see your good intentions towards Goose but I think its best if you don't speak on his behalf ... if he has anything to say, I think he's more then capable of doing so himself ...
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Reply #118 twiceAweek's post

I think I never complaint anything on this forum, only just ask for fair judgement even so-called gan of 4 case.

I was stopped report posting because of 2 cases....
    1. my report was used by someone to do something, it make me feel really not good
    2. gan of 4 case make me re-consider the RULER in this forum

Back to your questions,
    1. WG happy on the photo doesn't implies it can be post.  The bro can ask this photo post to internet/report or not directly
    2. Yes, Goose was asked us to take a look on that thread.  I was saw the replies and decided to neg the K on my own viewpoint, we are adult, no one can control our mind and actions.  But, the response from mods is different on that.
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Reply #123 twiceAweek's post

doens't matter la... I just say something from my heart... nothing can be changed
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Reply #123 twiceAweek's post

I have the same thought, why borrow "somebody knife to kill another person" (借刀殺人) ?
And btw, the knife is not sharp at all.



Happpy, I also think you look at this too much from your heart.
Too much love for the WGs.......
It;s your choice what you do outside the forum, this is a free world.
In the forum, we have general acceptance by members of the community and we learn not to be inconsiderate to others.


We always welcome you, Goose and all back to the English forum. The door is opened.
Come and go in peace with hugs.......pot stirring is a pain.  

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Post at 20-12-2011 11:58  Profile P.M. 
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Originally posted by happppysex at 20-12-2011 11:35
"1. WG happy on the photo doesn't implies it can be post.  The bro can ask this photo post to internet/report or not directly"

But you said in your post #116:

"Regarding to the permission on the girls, it is not difficult to communicate.  If there is any language constraint, just show her the photos you took, it is so simple."

so what you mean is permission to take the picture only and not permission to publish ?  
but the question was on ... how does one ask for permission to post when there is a language barrier

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Yes, Goose was asked us to take a look on that thread.  I was saw the replies and decided to neg the K on my own viewpoint, we are adult, no one can control our mind and actions.  But, the response from mods is different on that.

I still don't understand what you mean by the mod's response ... there were no rulings nor changes to the rules (at that point in time)
I would have thought any response by any bro (including a mod's) in this thread were adult and with their own viewpoint, and I stress OWN view point,
like you have yours and everyone else have their's

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Reply #119 bbbj's post

I think the what happens in the forum stays in the forum has not been getting as much discussion because most people regard it as a given.  

Having said that google translate works well, and while many of the girls do not have the technical skills to set up an account and read about themselves, you can be sure that many of the agents do.  And they are probably quite happy when some of their regulars post good reports.  

With regards to pics, I'm not sure what the mods will come up with, but they will make a decision based upon some facts.  And I think that the assumption you made is not correct:

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These girls aren't stupid. They are adults and even those coming from the mainland will/should fully understand that digital pictures can always end up on the web. So, IMHO, if a girl agrees to have pics taken, especially if she proceeds to pose in front of the camera, that's good enough for posting on this forum.

I don't think we can assume that a girl that's been picked off some farm by an agent, transported to a strange city, with limited education and experience, will understand all the nuances of what mongers do.  

And understand that we are going to run back to our computers and post them on the internet, as opposed to keeping them on our phone as a memory of a nice session. And have the life skills to understand the consequences of having her pics posted.  

And she's been told that the pics are not available outsite HKG.

As I said - I don't know what the answer will be.  But willfully ignoring the obvious is a bit self-serving.

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QUOTE:
Originally posted by twiceAweek at 20-12-2011 11:58
...I still don't understand what you mean by the mod's response ... there were no rulings nor changes to the rules (at that point in time)...

happpysex may have been referring to the reversal of the negative K's by hunter... anyway, as happppy himself said, everyone has their own opinion, and hunter i guess, in his opinion, deemed the negative K's were not necessary.
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Reply #122 happppysex's post

Huh??  that's NEWS to me....that Goose supposedly cares about the English forum...for I remember quite clearly how many times he's stated that the English side is total crap and that he wouldn't EVER be posting on here!

And each and every time that he does come back....it's only to give just about everybody here grief... raising up a ruckus and mayhem....and then Gary coming on with further goonish and clownish remarks/action...and then usually leaving it up to you to come back on, be nice and try to deflect attention away from Gooses' original OFFENSIVE first cut. (BTW - what happened to the 4th Gof4 - or has it appropriately been reduced to the 3 Stooges?).

You've been nice and respectful - and I've also tried to reciprocate - but my message I think got buried in all this niceties!  What I am saying is - Happppy why do you need to/have to be the "Fall guy" each and every time that Goose comes on here to raise hell?! What, it's beneath him to reply himself...given that you stated that he supposedly "cares" about the English side?

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QUOTE:
Originally posted by SEAJ at 20-12-2011 13:12
Huh??  that's NEWS to me....that Goose supposedly cares about the English forum...for I remember quite clearly how many times he's stated that the English side is total crap and that he wouldn't EVER be posting on here!...

to be exact, this was Goose' signature sometime Oct/Nov 2011:

Goose no longer participates or support this English Forum coz its crap!! The Idle Thread is a piece of shit too!

so I'm sure you "remember quite clearly" SEAJ as you have a special mention!

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Reply #131 DaBestHK's post

I find this appropriate after all this discussion.

Words I learn from a TV advert in China. Love it.....
Similarly, I apply these to my own day to day life......


In Chinese:
如果没事,不要找事   
如果有事,不要怕事


Direct translation:
If there is No trouble, dont go look for trouble.
If there is trouble, dont chicken out


English Phrase:
Dont go looking for trouble.  
But if trouble finds you, dont be afraid.


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THANKS!!



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Goose           20-12-2011 17:43          Karma          +1           Yep SEAJ's thread is a load of SHIT!

Thanks for the compliments.....and your avid readership of it....coz that's the only way you could have known it IS shit!!!
LMAO!!

So....now that you're back....how about you answering/handling the myriad of items on YOUR plate as presented here..... instead of just having happpy take all the heat??

Time for Roast Goose!!

LMAO!

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Reply #128 yazoo's post

Yazoo,

While I fully respect your opinion, I don't agree.

I guess where we don't see eye-to-eye is our perception of where a bros responsibility to protect the girl starts and stops.

Also I think you might underestimate the knowledge and common sense of these girls. Many of them are clever enough to get more money out of you and know very wellthat posing for pics has the potential to increase business / tips / etc.

Anyway, let's see what rules the mods come up with.

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Originally posted by SEAJ at 20-12-2011 18:02


Thanks for the compliments.....and your avid readership of it....coz that's the only way you could have known it IS shit!!!
LMAO!!

So....now that you're back....how about you answering/handling th ...

Sorry didn't mean to neg you should be +1K.
No interest at all in the current topic, since I disagree with everything you say. Do whatever you like, think whatever you like, I have no more comments to add and if you want a war of words again, I'm not interested. I don't live for 141 like some, there are better things to do than to argue. I'll leave it to the MODs, like most bros have suggested.

As for your thread that is my opinion and since the MODs have endorsed a karma whoring thread, there is nothing more to say on that part.  

have a good evening
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Reply #135 Goose's post

interesting ... Goose, did you forget about what you said in the first part of that sentence ...

"Goose no longer participates or support this English Forum coz its crap!! The Idle Thread is a piece of shit too!"[size]

this English forum is crap too ?

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Reply #135 Goose's post

Hey bro,
before u fly a way, i have only one question.
Think and hope u have no problem with me, i have no problem with u.
Please can u enlighten me.
100% no attack. just i want to know.
You wrote in ur post: *21: “Reports are shown to HGs are common practice today…”
Is that realy true?

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Reply #135 Goose's post

Hey Goose..... THANKS for the reply!

But really - its not I who you owe replies to; rather, its the WHOLE SLEW OF BROS here who's got all sort of questions for you.  
After all, who am I but just another member; So don't worry about replying me.  
Happpy has been holding the fort down for you so, good that you've at last come back!

But nonetheless, THANK YOU VERY MUCH for specifically gracing me with your sole reply.
WOW!, what an honour from the Great Goose!!

Thanks Goose and Good Luck!

SEAJ

Ps edit;
Not too late to "reverse" your error -k on this here post!  Hint Hint! LOL!
After all, it's only right to take your words at face value!!

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QUOTE:
Originally rated by Goose at 21-12-2011 00:52
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Goose   21-12-2011 00:52   Karma   +1   It's up to your leadership to make it not crap!

I take off my hat to you ... that was an excellent deflection !  

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Reply #124 happppysex's post

About your 2nd reason, isn't the ruler (sex141) the same for both forums?
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