YES - I is SURE that China has spoiled you!

It did me - especially when I kept on running into more and more gals in Thailand shaved down there.  Jeez - I truly hate the feel of those plucked chickens with all the nicks and cuts that invariably is there when they shave.  Blood product = all sorts of nasties.

Besides that, I guess I just have developed a more acute taste for the finer/delicate/whiter features of our Chinese maidens!

The only better luck I've had in finding finer featured/whiter skinned gals is when I stayed away from the Nana/Cowboy/Patpong areas and instead went to places favoured by the locals - thus my suggestion to you above to try those more "Hi-So" places.

Anyway - eager to read about your adventures down there!!

SEAJ

Joe, see the link immediately below. DELETE the 5x "*" and close the gaps. Copy and paste the entire link in your signature. FYI, I only included the * so you can copy and paste the link. When you delete the * it will display like the bottom line here and look much neater.

[*url=http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/viewthread.php?tid=26766&extra=&page=1][*b][*u]LINK HERE[*/u][*/b][/url]

LINK HERE

[ Last edited by  TonyToro at 27-4-2011 07:53 ]

HEEEEYYYYY ..........TONY!!!

Thanks....but sorry, no thanks!!

In fact, you're not the only one who's suggested something similar - received a few (and one strangely, thru ISG) PM's advising me how to streamline the look of my signature.

But....I want it to stand, for it to be all jagged...and jarring to one and all...to attract attention!!

If I only show up a nice streamlined "LINK" or even the title of this trhead - well it don't mean nothing.  I also think that most will NOT click on a link...when they don't know what the're linking to - and thus my Tri-colour bold and tacky signature

1. Inviting guys to come on over for a specific task/purpose
2. Advising the name of this thread to further re-inforce as to what one can expect when going here
3. The actual link.

Again thanks - and if you noticed - I've further made my sgnature all the more jarring etc by increasing the font size and re-wording the invite.

SEAJ

Anyone know some smooth ways to turn a civvie asking me for money into my personal working girl?

I keep meeting these girls that befriend me only to ask me for money later (not water buffalo stories, but still asking for money).  I do not mind parting with the fees as long as I get the action in return.

Anyone have any experience with this?  

I thought about saying something like if a girl really needs money she is willing to do anything, if she just wants money, she will just ask.  But that might not work out the way I intend!


I am also looking for a wingman to help me try out this KTV and BBS street I have found in the middle of bumblefuck China.  If you are interested and either live near or wouldnt mind staying in Zengcheng Guangdong for a short time, lemme know!

[ Last edited by  JustSeven at 27-4-2011 17:48 ]

Presume you're talking about a PRC gal - right?

I'd say that such things - each and every one of them represents a unique/stand alone case and must, as such be handled individually.  Hard to make generalization - especially for us third parties.

I'd first suggest that you examine yourself and figure out what your "tolerance" for pain and/or spending limits are. For all we know a million to you may mean the same as a buck to others.  This is important as lets face it, you do need to figure out what you're willing to spend (bait the hook) to reel in the big one! Now, whether its spending money on wining/dining/shopping/cash is actually irrelevant - for it all boils down to same thing in the final analysis.

And please don't differentiate between "freebies" with civvies to be turned to "paybies" - they're the same process - you gotta spend first to get 'em in the sack.

Second, you gotta to examine your quarry - how much of a "pretender" is she - an outright/or close to WG who's just putting on airs or a real honest to goodness gal who's just got herself into some money problems.....and the varying shades of them in between.

These 2 items, we readers have absolutely no idea about - and thus if you REALLY wanna get our POV/suggestions - you gotta come up with the specifics of the above items.

Fair enough?

SEAJ

I spent the evening at Patpong.  Out of soi cowboy, nana plaza, imo Patpong still has the best looking go go girls.  Now, for the Thai experts, at Kings's in Patpong, are half of the girls there Katoeys?  I'm pretty sure the ones that are knockouts, are dudes.  I was chatting with one and bought her a drink, she speaks fluent Chinese, I was 90 percent sure she was a ladyboy, but her body was f'ing PERFECT.  Too perfect to be a normal thai girl.  I was pretty attracted to her despite her possibly being a LB.  The ass on her was PHENOMENAL, the best I've seen in years.  Anyways, I didn't follow thru, I don't think I'm comfortable about taking back a LB despite her 10/10 body.  

By the way, I put up a report about my trip to Mango's massage in the international forum

Cheers guys,

Scoot

No offense to PRC girls but for the most part their affectations are worth on the order of 600RMB a pop to me   

The girls that have come up to me asking for money are very very far away from working girls, however they are also enticed by the fact that I am a foreigner (rare in the parts that I frequent).  

I guess the more that I think about it, until the fun of sauna girls has run dry, they set the standard for price vs performance and until that changes I do not think a "paybie" will ever be in my best interests.  I am sure there is a girl worth 5000RMB a pop, I just haven't met her or even seen her before.

What are some things I should be looking for to see how much of a "pretender" she is?

OK - you've now told us that you're willing to "risk" a maximum of RMB 600.  That's a start!

But please note that this SHOULD in MOST situations only be the minimum that you're looking at;  you're playing this whole thing from a Freebie type of approach - and let me tell you, if ALL you are going to be wanting to spend on her is RMB 600, I'd say forgeddaboutit and just stick to the paybies!  What you're wanting to do - IMHO - is gonna cost you more - much more - and that RMB 600 is the minimum I can see you spending to just bait the hook.

And you've not told us about your actual prospects.

And this would be important for you/us to consider on how to approach. I mean, I'd approach an OL different from a Shop gal different from a Veggie massage gal etc.  Age? Looks? Demeanour? Education? Family background? etc etc etc

And also I'm really wondering - since you've told us that you rely on your trusty pocket translator to converse in chinese - how is it that you're actually gonna converse with her in your approach - which WILL require quite a lot of finessse and subtlety?!


SEAJ

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 28-4-2011 09:26 ]

What I say its worth to me and what I actually end up paying are most of the time two different things.  I am very well aware that I would not be able to get a non working girl to become a paybie for 600.  That is just the internal price of what I FEEL a pop with MOST people is worth to me!

Most of the girls that have come to me for money (there have only been 4 so far) are very similar.  They go to university somewhere in Zengcheng and they can speak enough english that we can actually talk, albeit about nothing serious... but still far better than what I can talk about in a KTV in CP.

So these are students, decently attractive (at least imho, they arent the tall white skinned big eyes that the Chinese prefer), as for family background... I have no idea.

The reason I ask this is not because its something I have to do, but I figure I lose nothing by trying.  If a girl is already asking me for money, that is normally the end of my regular friendship with them.  Might as well get a lay out of it if the price is right.



As another aside:  I tried searching the chinese version of these forums but with no luck as autotranslate is near useless.  Anyone think they can dig up any info thats posted about Xintang or Zengcheng in the Guangdong province?  There must be locals or people that have gone through the area that have reported on it and it would be nice to see what they have to say.

No problem Bro, I'll do it for $600 LOL

You find a place worth going to in my neck of the woods and first girl is on me~

HooooKayyyy now - we're getting somewhere here with this topic!  At last!

OK - if its college/university students you're talking about, then its a much easier proposition IMHO.  Their financial needs are much less, they are intelligent enough to understand the dynamics of what they need to do to get "scholarships" and such "arrangements with patrons is NOT uncommon on Chinese campuses.

OK - I presume you're going to English speaking corners etc to get to know these gals - or similar settings.  You should zero in on your quarry, have them take you out to dinner or some other cheap ass student activity (of course with you paying) - and when paying the bill, just give her the change from the nearest RMB 100 - stating something like that you hate all these dirty small change, or here - for you to take buses etc.  Gauge how fast she takes this small change - and if she willingly do this, this is your first signal that its all systems GO!

NOW that you've established there IS a money side to her entertaining a relationship with you, you should then go to a coffee shop or somewhere quiet where you can chill/chat.  Treat her like just a regular date but then draw out her money woes etc. and you showing MUCHO sympatico and a certain amount of not only willingness, but also ability and your "heart" thrown in it.

Yes - have the $$$ amount all spelled out, how paid (of course in the future and in stages!) and go on with your "date"/go on to other topics etc which you should direct towards her following you home .... where of course you WILL turn on your Mojo to get her to do what you had been wanting to do all along!

OK - this is just MY take on how to handle this - and am sure others here will also chime in on their other preferred "methods" - and let me tell you something - they USUALLY ALL WORK!!

SEAJ

They definitely all work if the patroness is in need of patronage   

And the patron is in want of patronizing.

Che'lu

Just went through Lowu again just now....in record time!

No stopping off to get duty free cigarettes, 6th on the China line up and made it from Mtr train to CRH train all within 18 minutes!!  Add the 41 minutes for the Hong Kong leg and 27 minutes for the PRC side, from the time I boarded at Hung hom to when I got off in Chang Ping it only took me 86 minutes!

I'm obsessed with travel time to Chang Ping!!

SEAJ

86 minutes doesn't sound too bad, never did travel much to China myself and always thought of going to check the place on the weekends. Whats worth doing in Chang Ping?

That's good going, it is so much better than it used to be! Big improvement.

On the subject of time keeping, I had a obsession with the time it took to arrive at my hotel from the airport. It became quite competitive amongst our group and using the "honour system" we set some rule in place...

Clock starts with your first step off the air bridge into HKIA. Clock stops when your butt hits a chair in the lounge of Harry's Bar.

You had to take AEL to Kowloon Station and Taxi to Hotel. You had to check into hotel and take your bags up to your room.

We would usually arrive around Gate 65 - 70 however one trip I got lucky and got GATE 2 at the airport. I thought as I walked along the air bridge... this is it! I got lucky at immigration, bags waiting for me on the belt, Customs no drama, Short line at the ticket counter, train left less than a minute after I sat down, a reasonable cab line at Kowloon Station but lots of cabs available, smooth traffic, efficient and well organised check in staff and as I walked to the Elevator lobby the door opened and I walked straight. Made it back down to Hari's in 54 minutes which is still a record.

[ Last edited by  TonyToro at 28-4-2011 19:27 ]

"Not too BAD???!!!"

Jeez - you really have NOT been into China much have you??
Just a few years ago, sometimes one have to wait HOURS to go through China immigration - and the line would sneak all the way AROUND Lowu commercial center.

I believe its because there  was no separation between the Chinese passport and Foreign passport holders back then. Plus the Immigration guys used to really grill you going through.

And what's "worth" doing in Chang Ping? Search the threads for a full introduction to Chang Ping - but let me just summarize it by re-naming it "China Monger Central"

Yeah - check it out if you've got the same hobby as most of us here!  LOL!

SEAJ

Speaking of all this lighting fast travel speed, I have a 3.5 hour layover tmrw in hk, is it possible to pull off a visit to Kiki?  haha

Read this thread - Airport + Safety question:

http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... &extra=page%3D1

The guy had a 5 hour lay-over - and another guy did it in 3.25 hours.

SEAJ

Seaj!!!

You are the walking 141 archive master!

3.25 hours, im sure I can't get one in with kiki then.  

Looks like it will have to happen next time.  But the next trip to hk is suppose to be with s.o, that's gonna be another type of mission!