Frankly I have not heard any guys here talking about catching anything from BBBJ's - so it may be OK.  But not sure how may guys on this forum will rasie there hand if they catch something.

Your link to the San Francisco city cliniic has cred. It's really just down to the players (WGs and Mongerers) taking reasonable precautions, and everyone getting regular checks according to their circumstances, especially if they do anything bareback. The web site lists some serious STDs which can be caught with BBBJ, but which are easily treatable. I get the impression from the 141 reports/postings we don't have a problem.

I thought I saw a report earlier about catching something via BBBJ - might have been Dan Dan.

Good site, good info

http://www.medhelp.org/forums/STD/messages/2447.html

  thanks

If I dont get to do DATY... I really dont get that sense of intimacy... and have an incomplete sexual experinence. Somehow or the other.... seeing a girl squirm with pleasure with my DATY... gives me a tremendous high..... I luv to see the way her body tenses up.... her feet stretch... her toes reach their furthest extension.... feel the tremor of her body and the writhing of pleasure of her body.... i luv the way she holds my head and pushes it into her pussy... or the way her thighs clamp my head.... what a freaking great exp...

I think that's all wasted on a WG - save it for a SO or GF.    And why the fuck should you care whether a WG enjoys
herself or not? She's already getting paid for christsake.    Don't worry bro, it's a rhetorical question and, sorry to burst
your bubble, but 95% of the time it's ALL FAKE. But if deluding yourself increases your pleasure, go ahead.  

The important thing is to KNOW you're deluding yourself [as I do].   Otherwise, if you really believe it's real, then you're
just another sucker being conned by a WG.  

If she starts getting extremely wet down there, I don't think that can be "faked".

Yeah... it probably isn't fake, probably just some guy's liquified cum that has been sitting up there with the KY waiting for you to suck it out with your hungry mouth.  LOL...  I still don't see how one could eat pussy of a whore who has the nutsack sweat of 30 guys embedded in her skin and pussy lips.  Eww... sorry... I don't mind eating out my SO and mistresses pussies but I think I would rather lick a full ashtray before I put my mouth down some whore's dirty cunt, don't get me wrong, I will put my covered dick in there, just not my mouth.

Again bro, sorry to burst your bubble, but you really need to know a few things.

A few [maybe more than a few] years ago in the UK there was a rape case in court and part of the defence was
that the victim was lubricated and therefore she was enjoying it and the sex was consensual. A bevy of medical
experts testified that a woman's lubrication has nothing to do with her sexual pleasure. It's a simple natural reaction
to the stimulation of her pussy. You can prove it for yourself. Massage your GF's pussy while she's asleep. She feels
no pleasure but will become very, very wet. Lubrication has even less to do with orgasm.

Jake, the personal pleasure is in the knowing/believing that YOU are able to provide that kind of pleasure to a woman.  It has nothing to do with who she is or what she does for a living, or that she is taking your money.
When you go to a movie, if you really enjoyed the movie, in some way you became one of the characters of that movie in your mind.  You were experiencing what you were watching, you were having those emotions but in reality you were just watching something happening on a screen.
I don't give a rats ass if a WG is faking it or not, when she is able to make me feel like she is really enjoying herself, because of something that I am doing, then I have a great time.  But then, after having read some of your posts, this is the opposite of your ideal.  I don't fault you for your likes, that is what you like, to cause more pain, to dominate.  Hey, there is a huge amount of money spent in this world for people that look for that kind of experience but it does not mean it is for everyone, just like pleasing a girl is not for you.
If some WG is cold, dead fish, does not want to do anything, when I am paying her, I am with you, punish her.  But I just choose to punish in another way, that is, do not provide her another customer.  This is how free enterprise works.  On the other hand, if a WG, pretend or not, makes me feel like she really likes me, enjoys my company and my DATY service, along with other stuff, she is going to get me returning often and make plenty from me.  Any way, the point once again being, the feeling, the belief that you are the cause of that pleasure, that is what gets some people off.

Jesus Christ sexpert, can't you even TRY to say something original?! I sometimes wonder if you even have a forebrain. You remember the names of your kids, or do you have to carry around snaps with their names printed out in block letters? It's inevitable that we repeat ourselves over the mths here in the forum, but you've now said the same identical fucking thing five times in just this one thread!   Don't believe anyone could be that dumb? Check out sexpert's posts #11, #21, #80, #91, and now #109. It's one of the more exasperating facts of life that bores never seem to bore themselves, but you'd think the guy would be a little more self aware.

Actually, this time I was waiting for your reply!

Yeah, as my mum liked to say - "it takes all sorts to make a world". I'm just not into pretence, acting, faking,
and make-believe.    I don't like it in my 'normal' life and I'm certainly not going to pay for it.  

Jake, completely understood.  Its actually a good thing that we don't all go for the same thing or:

1)  Life would be quite a boring place.
2)  Life would be quite a boring place.

Not to mention that we'd all be after the same gals.  

So when you're at home with the wife and kid, you don't act, fake, and make believe you're a faithful husband? How does the wife take it when you say, "I'll be back in a couple hours honey. I'm going over to Monkok to fuck a 16-yr-old Chinese girl."?

Mars ... missed you here over the last week or so !   

What an entry!! You always have to pick on somebody bigger....

Miss you indeed.

Hey guys – I just love DATY!  I am with male_rabbit, if I do not get DATY – it overall is just a less sastifying experience for ME!  It is one of thoughs things that is hard to put my finger on just why I like it so much.  It’s kind of like asking why I like to eat chocolate cake or lobster.  I could list a lot of things about chocolate cake or lobster I like – but probably never really be able to say just why I like to eat it so much.  

Does part of it have to do with the illusion I am making the women cum – for sure.  Would I still want to stick my tongue in some strange piece of pie even if it did not make her cum -  ABSOLUTELY!  Just so long as she gets wet?  It might also be something about being taboo or nasty.   I think that's all part of it.  But most likely it is probably just some kind of animal instinct.  That makes it even better for me – it’s a really primitive act.  When I go on one of my lov'in adventures I need to get my rocks off – first and foremost – but next to shooting off my own load – DATY is the BEST for ME!

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