You gotta keep in mind when you walk in that room that the girls, regardless how they make you think they feel about you:

DON'T like you,
DON'T like to suck your dxxk,
DON'T want to fxxk you,
DON'T want you pawing and drooling on their tits


They are there because they need money and have no other way to get so much money so quickly and with limited effort or skill.

That does not mean however that you and the girl cannot have a good time together, but you have to keep in mind why she is there and with you.

Welll...... that is sort of a brutal assessment!

But nonetheless quite true in most instances.

And thus the sinking boat feel when one does make any sort of "connections" with these vixens!

And also perhaps worth thinking that not all WG's are that hardened and once a while... a long while.... one does come across the odd one who's more genuine than others.

Regardless.... one would be wise to at all times be on guard when dealing with ANY wg's.  Just IMHO of course

SEAJ

A few years back, especially around 1997, there were quite a few "ladies" who's basic purpose in life was just to get "packaged."

Pre-1997 - lots of guys, flush with $$ did go and package these gals - some at really ridiculous rates like HK$30-80,000 per month etc. and these gals really did have it good (and I imagine that even today, such things are still quite common - albeit not as "out in the open" as it was then IMHO).

But then in 1997 ++ the markets crashed and a lot of guys couldn't keep keep it up and so a lot of these gals were "unemployed and on the prowl."

I was privileged to have been the subject of a few of these ladies' attentions and their modus operandi usually follows a set format; uncanny - how so many of them follows this rather set pattern.

Basically, after the initial first or second night of me wining and dining a particular lady,(and definitely, no sex would be available at all during this initial test-run by her), she would then insist to invite me to her apartment for a home-cooked dinner. In most cases, she would also insist that she pick me up - and again uncanny/strange - but these gals all seem to always drive a 2-door Benz or BMW of one model or another.  

Back at home, always the finest wines, brandy and lavish/expensive food would be served - 1 or 2 maids serving, followed by some of the best, the most mind-blowing sexual experiences any guy could ever hope to have with a foxy lady.

(basically all this is is to establish to me what her standard of living was and that if I wanted to take over packaging her, I'd need to provide "similar' standards)

And then the sales pitch - whether right after the sex/the next morning or even the day after....when I still got the wonderful sex-capade and royal treatment fresh in my mind.

Oh...yes, I had a Boy friend but he's gone bankrupt/poor/not able to afford to keep me anymore.... and you know.... I'm so used to this life style....really don't know what else I can do...and boy, I really enjoy myself SOOOO MUCH with you....and I don't really care whether you take care of me in the style that I had gotten used to or not....just let me be your GF now....as I've fallen in love with you.....

OK - you've kicked the tire, you LOVE it, she's so great, oh wow...you a buyer???

LOL

SEAJ

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 19-12-2010 01:03 ]

Eons ago, one fine day, when the sun was shining and the stars were all aligned up perfectly, I literally bumped into Judy at the old Star Ferry concourse.  Busy as heck in those days and a place where EVERYBODY jostled to get taxi.

Well, I was rushing to get into the taxi rank and Judy was too...at the same time...and of course we collided and I was profuse in my apologies...and courteous to the nth degree as I then noticed her HUGE bazookas!! A totally uncommon sight to behold in the Hong Kong of years past.  HUGE...and only matched by how large her eyes were.  In other words - a total fox!

Well, one thing led to another (of course!!) and I was regularly seeing her...and many times, she'd even insist on her paying one dining or drinking bill or another. Now, the strange thing about this all though, was that EVERY TIME we went to her place for our trysts, she would use several dead bolts and locks to properly secure her front doors and steel gate and then proceed to turn off all the lights by actually throwing the switch on the main fuse box off. Candles in the bedroom/bathroom was then the only lights in the whole place.  Romantic huh?

All GREAT you may say....until one night, at about 2 in the morning, we were rudely awakened by VERY loud bangs on the steel gate and door...and lots of guys shouting and screaming to open the door.  Judy told me to stay totally quiet and not even utter a peep!

I sneaked up to the peep hole and saw several irate guys all at the door and then sneaked a look from the windows to see that downstairs, there was a great big black Mercedes Benz and a small Japanese car parked illegally on the curb.  All the while Judy telling me to keep quiet and make sure I don't get seen.

Eventually - Thank God - the guys left and that was when Judy told me that the guy is some Big shot and that she was being kept by him.  She needed to do what she did with the electricity for then she could cover her tracks; that when the guy next sees her, she'd remind him of her extreme bouts of insomnia and that she needed total darkness in the house for her to fall asleep - and only after taking large doses of sleeping pills...to cover up why she didn't wake up when he was banging on her door.

You think I EVER dared to do her at her place after THAT??!!

Anyway - the next time ANY of you guys ever are NOT able to get a hold of the Love of Your Life - think about li'l ole SEAJ.... and what some SEAJ's may be doing with her instead!!

Muahahah!!

SEAJ

You guys mean to tell me that you've not been scammed by a WG before?

Note even tried to scam you?

Come on!

Sharing is caring - so howzabout sharing some of your experiences on this count.

thanks
SEAJ

Not one guy revealing nuthin'. The same old same-o same-o thing!

You guys been asleep
Or just too stuffed with all the turkey?

Tell me,  TELL ME - You'd like to stuff this bird??

SEAJ

SEAJ,

Those are some incredible stories, man, but I can never tell if you're being truthful or not. Great stories nonetheless.

I'm genuinely curious. How did you meet these "packaged" women? Where did you meet them? If you're really 27 as you said, why would they notice you? I wouldn't think that they ordinarily would since very very few 27 year olds would be able to provide such women with the kind of lifestyle they apparently demand. If you're that good looking or charming or whatever, so much so that these stunning women would notice you just for your looks, then why would you need to monger when you can probably hit up regular hotties for free in LKF or whatever.

Honestly, I'm really genuinely not trying to question you. These are actual questions that I've been meaning to ask you that I want genuine answers to. I really would be interested to know where such women hang out, how they notice people, etc.

Harumph.... don't YOU know any 27 year old Multi-billionaires?

Mark whatshisname - ain't he a 26 YO multibillionaire too??

LOL

SEAJ

Haha, I see. Well, now I know.

So were the last two stories just made up? Yeah, I suppose stories that are too good to be true are usually too good to be true. But mustn't there be some hardcore women like that? I mean, in the big scheme or things, there are quite a few guys to whom HK$1M a year to have a super hottie around won't be that out of the question, and there must be some super hotties who didn't quite make the cut into the entertainment or fashion world but still damn hot. And there must be some guys in that group who just want someone hot around for some mid-term duration and some girls who want money enough to want to enter that kind of an arrangement, no?

Whoa..... puttting me on the defensive!!

Good on ya young man!

Cheerio - and please refer to my avatar for a full explanation!
Muahahah!

SEAJ

Thanks for the stories.  I would not have wanted to be in the flat when the big boss rocked up

Despite my hard view I have had the sinking ship thing going on once. A total babe and lovely person to be with . She worked for one of our favorite brothels for some 18 months. I spend a lot of time with her, booking double, triple sessions. We could not get enough of each other, and I would find myself thinking about her at odd moments (usually the only time I think about the WG is when it is deciding which one I will go to see). I wanted to "save" her but knew that chances were very slim that this would work. She gave me her mobile number and offered to see me outside of her work but I did not take this offer up, knowing that it would lead to problems . One day, she was gone, back to Sichuan. I was sad but know this is for the best.

The only other time I had a similar ship sinking experience was with Cookie (Korean), in 2003-2004. She and I really clicked on so many levels . She left as well. I still think of her from time to time.

Keep on mongering

Eat more pussy

[ Last edited by  gwailoplayer at 28-12-2010 20:13 ]

Oh WOW!!! Cookie the Korean gal at Fuji!!  Yeah - she was THE gal in those days. I started with her at I think $400 and she then started increasing her rates - but she always kept the same old rate for me.  

She WAS special - I recall that she was a travel agent or ?? before starting on this profession,  then for a while she went back to Korea - I think she thought she made enough money - but was back within a few months - only then at Granville road in Kowloon if I recall.  Saw her a few more times there but the trek got to me and I eventually stopped seeing her.  Twice also still remembers and rave about her too.

This was before the 141 forum and I remember the big hoopla in those days on Icered - you remember that??!!

Ahhh... the good ole days...I guess!!

SEAJ

Mark Zuckerberg?  Have you seen "Social Network"  The kid really screwed over his friends to get to where he is.  I guess that's what it takes to do busness in the world.  As they say business man 商人 sounds like 傷人.

Cookie had the most amazing breasts I have ever seen on a woman.  

Before Granville road she operated out of Fuji, there was literally a line of 4-5 guys outside her door at any given time, including myself. She had so much custom that Between customers she would basically wash her snatch and fix up her makeup, would stay wrapped up in a towel when opening the door.

We used to sit on the bed facing each other and she would bonce up and down on my dick until she orgasm ed with grunt . Then she would repeat it. Then she would repeat it again. Then again  After seeing her a number of times I got her to DFK me , but she would never let me DATY her. Once time after a particularly good session she asked me what I was doing later than night, as in "take me to dinner". I was flattered  but did not dare, I know it would only lead to more problem later, and many of my firm's customers were in the area and was afraid some would see me with her .

I do remember Ice Red, in my unemployed days I sat around reading and writing it

Apart from Cookie they were clearly not the good old days for me.

She really got under my skin and I see that I it was very dangerous for me.

The moderators may not like it, but here is a souvenir.

[ Last edited by  gwailoplayer at 29-12-2010 19:19 ]

That is GREAT!!!  At last I get to see a picture of Cookie again!

Yeah, when she was at Fuji (the top floor if I recall correctly, she DID always have a long line of clients at her door. 4 or 5 - and I don't think I'd ever seen anything liike this EVER -  before or after her.

At the time, my office was very close to her - walkable distance and we had this agreement that when she was coming to work or if she didn't have any clients etc, she'd give me a ring and I would pop over.  As you can imagine, I had many a great session with her;  the same as you did also I guess!!

Again thanks for the pixs - I regretfully never kept any myself - do you have any more?

Thanks

SEAJ

look in the restricted access forum.

Thanks for your suggestion - but which restricted access forum?  Pictures of Cookie the famous Korean at Fuji years ago?

Also, herewith a link to aray's thread - "A fool. That's what I am" - on how a WG pulled  a scam on him - in line with the theme of this thread

http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... =page%3D1#pid312923

SEAJ
edit - Oooops - just now saw your post on Cookie's pictures!!  THANKS a LOT!!

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 4-1-2011 20:13 ]

Wait... are you telling me that when JOHNS eat out a WG's pussy, they don't like it, they don't have mind shuddering orgasms 9 times per session and it's not "natural juices"?  LOL...

LOL!!!

I don't know if I've mentioned it or not before -but quite a few WG's in China I've talked to tells me that this DATY thing is quite "a thing" for them.

Let me explain - in the recent past, it WAS well known that most guys in China will not/do not go down on their women folks - that's just the way it was as it was considered to be some kind of perversion and/or a subjugation of their manly macho image.

Fast forward to the past few years and we've got Hong Kong/Taiwanese/foreigners with this "knowledge" of the supposed lack of pleasure by girls bereft of any oral ministrations...and going all out to now satisfying the girl with their DATYing expertise.

Yes, at first the gals did enjoy this new found form of sexual pleasure - but just as quickly, it was turned around by WG's to becoming a very effective tool of scamming their customers - or at least getting more tips.

They would of course pretend to never have had their nookie ate out, even going as far as protesting against their client going down on them...but will then eventually relent... then relax... then enjoy...then come and come and come ...and then profess their gratitude for at last being able to climax (the FIRST time in their life!)...and then them declaring their undying love for the hapless punter who is now convinced that he IS DE MAN.

Well of course DE MAN takes care of HIS WOMAN!! And takes care of her WELL!!  $$$$$$!!!

Oh well, everybody comes out satisfied from all this - so this scam ain't that bad after all is it???

LOL

SEAJ
edit Ps. hmmmm. still nobody catching on?

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 5-1-2011 00:40 ]

Well, I was once doing a two hour punt with a girl in China and once she heard I was from America, she put her pussy right up on my face as she blew me.  It was a beautiful pussy, it looked delectable, but I didn't partake since it is one of my rules.  I thumbed her clit, I fingered her some but she then moved away.  I didn't know what happened, I could have cared less and the issue was dropped as I continued to receive an incredible bj.  I'll DATY the GF til she cums 4 times, I'll DATY the SO anytime she wants it, but please don't put that pussy to my face, last thing I need is to taste some BBFS customer she had 4 hours earlier.