I tell you man... the best girls marry the worst scumbags 99% of the time and that's a fact.  As for marrying whores, I am sure there is that 1 in N(name your number) that works out.    But we are trying to be as realistic as possible with many guys who do not end up happy with marrying a WG.  But seriously, who the hell would marry a whore when there are so many nice women out there?  I mean, I could set up a poll and if everyone is honest the numbers will be very heavy on one side.  Whatevers man...  there will be saints fighting for the rights of WGs like mars but each person has their own opinions and if you ask me, a whore will always be a whore 99.9% of the time.  There will always be that 0.1% hopeful that Mars will find the love of his life here on 141.  All my best wishes Mars.

For an answer to that question, ask your wife why she married a scumbag when there are so many decent guys out there. Having benefited from the kindness of others, I'd think you'd have learned to be less judgmental.

[ Last edited by  Marsupial at 9-8-2009 10:44 ]

Lesson learned : Nice guys finish last

Froddo, you think I have a talent for wearing people down. 'pert wins that contest hands down! He's like some crazy whack-a-mole! No matter how many times you slap him down, he pops up after a while to carry on as if nothing had happened.

As I've pointed out to you at least a dozen times sexpert, everything you say on this subject derives from your conviction that "whores aren't nice girls." Your marriage advice and all the other rant is dependent on the validity of that basic underlying premise. If that isn't true, nothing you say on the subject makes sense. Can't you see that? So if you want to be taken seriously in this anti-whore crusade of yours, you first need to convince us that WGs aren't nice people.

[ Last edited by  Marsupial at 14-8-2009 13:17 ]

Whatevers... i wish nothing but the best for you.  Don't hate cuz you were given a shitty life.  I hope you find happiness dude, cuz this trying your best to shove me down doesnt really hurt me.  I hope one day, you will find a whore to love and love you back 1000% ... then we will see less hate, and more love out of you.  Us youngins' have a new thing called haters, these are the same people who will put a keyscratch on the door of a new BMW for no other reason than to hate, I am sure you don't key scratch people's cars but... you got that feel here.  Sigh... nonetheless... good luck to you bro.

Wow! Talk about a lack of self-awareness! You're the one who feels it necessary to come on the forums and continuously preach about how contemptible WGs are. If I feel scorn - hate is far too strong a word for my feelings for you - it's for your narrow-minded, hateful intolerance.

OK OK you win!  Geez...  are you happy?  Feel satisfied?  sigh...  ho sum lei lar...

This is the final chapter in story of this ex-WG who was privatized by this guy.  She has broken off from him after about 6 months, giving up her room, moving in with him.  Total, he paid her a bit over $100,000, but when splitting, he gave her nothing additional.  She checked on setting up a room again, but prices in Jordan have gone up substantially, from $5,000 per month to over $7,000.  I hear that New Lucky House will either be re-developed or that no WG rooms will be allowed anymore.

So she doen't want to go back into the WG business, but she has nothing set up yet to earn a living, which she needs to support her mother/father and two adopted kids in Guangdong Prov.

I still see her on and off, have lunch with her and usually one of her friends, then we go off to the hourly hotel on Tak Hing street.  This time, I gave her $1,500 because I made some money from sale of a condo unit in Bangkok, and she was happily surprised about that.  Also brought back two nice handbags from Bangkok and presented to her.

End of story.

advise her to go back home.
find a job in China...
paying rent alone in HK is gonna kill her.

and... wtf did she do with the $100,000?
that's more than enough to build a 2 storey house in some most parts of Guangdong.
even if she and her family live in Guangdong cities, that's more than enough to live comfortably for 2 years!

This thread was a great read and I'll give my own story as well as ask for some opinions here.

In the past two years, I've become quite fond of a WG I frequent here in my home of Canada.  She's from HK and came to Canada to escape an abusive ex-boyfriend and to make easy money as a WG (WGs make more money here and older ones have a longer "lifespan" because of white customers' Asian fetish and most of them can't tell the real ages of Asian people).  She's not a stunner, she doesn't have much of an education or serious career potential and after three years in Canada she doesn't know more than 2-3 sentences in English -- but she's always been good to me and it's something I've always appreciated.

I only monger when I'm single, and when I'm single I tend to want a girlfriend so I appreciate small affections from girls a lot more.  What can I say?  I want to settle down and get married.

So over the course of the first year, my visits to this WG become more frequent (partly because her apartment was close to my home), we begin talking about our real lives more often and she begins sms'ing me just to say hi.  Later on I'm introduced to her WG flatmates and friends (as well as their boyfriends and the mamasan/boss and her husband -- my jealous WG even asked if I ever had sex with her WG friends).  One night, after a late meeting, she asks me to drive her home, she invites me inside, to her bedroom, and we fuck again (I didn't offer her any $$ and it never came up even though I did think about it).  After that, I was still visiting her about once a month, but if she was bored or lonely she would give me a call.  Throughout this time I would still be giving her $$ though -- the distinction here being that I was still seeing her as a WG and not as a GF.

But we did have our problems.  My Cantonese was rubbish and her English was nonexistent.  Our communication was okay, but my Cantonese was too poor to form complex ideas and sentences.  Still, our relationship continued to grow.  I seriously entertained the idea of her being my GF.

But real life happened and I met someone new who I started a relationship with.  I told my WG this and that I couldn't see her anymore and she was devastated and cried.  She hated me.  I now realized that she had real feelings for me as well, but at the time I didn't think that a WG could ever fall for a regular guy and not see him as a walking bank machine.

Things with me and my now ex-gf didn't work out so I called up my WG again.  She wasn't happy, and would humiliate me in front of her friends every time as revenge, but over time we patched things up.  A short while ago she took a break from work and being at home bored, she called me up and we began spending our days together (I had the time after being laid off because of the market crash).  We got talking (and this is where I'd like some opinions here) and she told me that after three years of being a WG, she has almost no savings (not more than a few hundred CAN$ at any time).  I knew that she gambles away a lot of money in mahjong and at the casino, but on one occasion when we were out, she told me that guys in Hong Kong pay for everything for their girlfriends -- food, gifts, going out, partying, rent -- pretty much all expenses.  This girl had no concept of saving money or even what anything costs.  Is this how Hong Kong girls are like?

Anyways, at this point of my story we're still having sex but now only at her home bedroom, and I stopped giving her $$ for it (though I do pay for everything on our "dates").  I had stopped giving her $$ because the last time I tried, she gave me a disdainful look.

I also spend time on various Thailand forums (more to talk about travel, but I do read all the mongering forums of course), and I know that it definitely does happen where WGs will choose to be with a guy outside of work.  To paraphrase what one Thai WG said: In a bar a girl can't choose her customers, but how she spends her time outside of the bar is her own choice.  If a WG wants to spend her time with you then know that that you are her choice.  It was when my girl stopped asking for $$ that I realized that our relationship had gone to a different stage.  She's still working as a WG though.

Now fast-forward to today.  My girl's work visa is expiring (I wonder what the hell she told immigration in order to get into Canada) and thus she's getting kicked out of the country.  I'm tempted to follow her to Hong Kong, but I know that I probably won't be able to get a job.  She treats me like a real boyfriend at this point even though we're not officially a couple, and if I were financially secure I might not care that she doesn't at all come close to my ex-girlfriends in terms of education, jobs, motivation -- just general criteria of what I want in a partner.  And we still have that communication problem (though me being CBC, I'm sure that given the time and motivation I'll be fluent again like during my youth).  But she treats me incredibly sweetly and affectionately.

Anyways, the point of this long post is that 1.) You never know what life is going to throw at you; and 2.) Not at WGs are after your money.  Good people are out there, in all sorts of professions and classes.  Don't base your opinion on just one experience.  More than that, keep a cool head about things.

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I have to agree with that - it's just common-sense. I have nothing against whores and, sometimes, I even quite like them. Like the last girl I reported on and I said she'd make a great GF. But I'd have to be a fuckin lunatic to even think about marrying one. And why would I even want to? I could certainly never love a woman who's chosen to fuck all-comers and then make her the mother of my babies. Sorry, but that's just my own feeling, right ot wrong. And sexpert has kids so I'm sure he understands that better than most of the bros on this forum who don't have kids of their own.

true.
i've friends who are happily married to ex-WGs.
in fact, i feel somtimes a WG will cherish the relationship more than normal women.
partly because they know it's hard to find a man who doesn't mind her past.

Tangoll, that was horrifying to read. You visit a prostitute to have sex. Period. You do not buy them gifts, you do not have coffee with them, you have sex and leave. Beyond that, you have serious problems. I'm all for WG's finding love and getting married, but that's when they aren't WG's anymore, and if you were ever a client of said WG, then forget it. Have some respect for yourself man! Goodness gracious. I get that you're 67, about to die, and desperate, but, get a grip man. You're an embarrassment to John's the world over.

I understand what you're saying bro. I have irrational prejudices of my own. For starters, I don't like Tagalog, the language of the Philippines. Even Tagalog-accented English drives me up the fucking wall. I've got nothing against Filipinos, I'm sure they are just like everyone else, but I could certainly never love a Filippina and make her the mother of my babies. And why would I even want to? Sorry if I've offended anyone, but that's my feeling, right or wrong. I know that says more about me than it does about them, but that's just who I am.

And don't get me started on sea slugs and chicken feet! Nobody should eat that shit. That's just common sense!

why? do u used to get alot of "Good morning Sir.. coffee, tea or ME?"

"normal women"? Where's Mars.

JustSex, I don't even know how to begin replying to your inane post.  If my posts were a horrifying read, then don't read them.  I haven't had anyone come up to me and say that I'm an embarrassment to him because he's a John and maybe, just maybe, visits the same WG that I spend my money and time on.  Frankly, do I give a sh!t what you think or say?  I think you know the answer to that question.  What you do, how you spend your money and time is nobody's business but your own and I guess the WG's if you happen to visit one.  Other than that, why care how anyone else in this anonymous forum plays, spends money, or reports on his activities?

If you don't have anything of value to add to a thread, no need to post.

[ Last edited by  tangoll at 22-9-2009 22:45 ]

Mars & Lenny ...

I think something amazing has just happened  

now I know there is hope in this world ... adversaries can live with each other ... and perhaps even get along !!!  

Well, sad to say in experience, the general rule seems to be true. But again, it is subjective from person to person. No matter what are their reasons in doing this trade or what are our reasons in having our needs, if two people can find genuine connection outside of the companionship trade, then the exception can happen.

Sometimes only party feels it, but the other party don't feel it, then it doesn't happen. But not necessary that it will be impossible for every WGs.

The original ex-WG that this thread is about has now come full circle and gone back to being a full WG again with her own room in Shumshuipo.  The day after I met her for dinner, shop for small gift of iPod piggy speaker set, and visit to hourly hotel in Yaumatei, up pops her ad on this site, under new name but same old outfit and bikini. But I haven't called her either at old number or new number in the new room to let her know that I saw the link.

I'm undecided whether to post her link or not.  If anyone wishes to see what she's all about, you can PM me and I will send you the link address.  That's all, folks.