Just to mention an option that hasn't been listed here, there are the places that provide services based on time.  $430 for 70 mins.  Usually this is a CIM and a regular shot, but they also go to town doing a heap of tricks on you.  Its a good way for a first timer i think, since the first CIM shot will help u get all the nerves out, then you can have some hottie show you all this stuff that is possible.

Enjoy and write up a report.

Also PM me if you need help finding one of these places.  I'm off to one right now!

Canada chicks cant be as bd as HK chicks. Prob from my bad luck but man every encounter hitting on a HK gal has been disastrous.

I go to this hiphop dance studio for 2 years. When I first went there, i saw this girl and she instantly catches my eyes. There are lots of girls at the studio that i go to, but she is the only one who I really do have a crush on.

For those who are wondering "this dude goes to dance with so many girls, so whats the problem here?" The problem is I dont talk, im socially awkward. Although I do dance competitively. I usually just go there and dance with my intructor for an hour and leave. He is the only person that ive talked with for the past 2 years. Its pathetic I know.

So basically the story is Im still thinking about her and I want to lose it to her and not some random WG. At the same time I know im way out of her league. Everyone knows im a awkward guy at my studio.  There is no way I can walk up to her and chat with her or with anyone in the studio.

The only time when Ill get my chance, is maybe in 1/1000 that ill get to pair up with her at dance. But that is highly unlikely. Should I wait for my turn to know her or ill get a wg and leave it at that?

[ Last edited by  uwotextbook at 22-3-2010 15:29 ]

Your problem is that you are focused on this one girl, and the more you think about her, the more you believe she's really the one for you -- especially because you only see her from afar, and aren't close enough to her to see her faults. There are millions of other girls who are just as good. And attraction is a numbers game. You can't be focused on just one. Ok, you like this one, but why not make friends with some other girls in the studio or wherever else? The best way to meet girls is to have one circle of female friends (these are usually NOT your dating prospects, so don't worry about their looks), and then date/hook up with their friends.

You sound too sensitive and impressionable to go down the WG route. Stick it out for a while. Maybe get some paid HJs just to relieve the sexual tension.

I would guess the OP is/was at the University of
Western Ontario in London, Ont.

Lots of wisdom in your posts in this thread, bro (and elsewhere as well ).

When a guy has little or no experience with girls, he tends to put them on a
pedestal (perhaps uwotextbook has no sisters?). Perfectly natural, and
something that has to be worked out of one's system over time.

Now that the OP has some facility in hip-hop, he can invite the occasional
girl to practise with him without fear of falling on his face. Keep it all about
the dance to begin with, and conversations will begin to flow naturally out of it.

Soon you will acquire enough confidence to invite the Girl in the White Dress to
practise with you. Again keep it cool, even share some tips with her. At worst,
you will see that up close she ain't all that and wonder why you made the big  
fuss about her. At best, it could be the start of a beautiful friendship.

You'll never know until you try!

Meanwhile, testlogin's suggestion that you go for a massage with a happy  
ending is a good one. It will help you realise that sex is sometimes
just sex, although with the right partner it can be a lot more. The HG
experience won't turn you into a stud overnight, but it will help redress the
imbalance of power between the two sexes in your mind. Once you realise
that there are good-looking girls out there who are willing to give you a
good time, even if it's only for money, you're on your way.

Good luck!

If that instructor is the only person you've talked to in the last 2 years,
then your problem is not that your a virgin ... its a much bigger issue ...
something you need to see a shrink about !

Maybe I forgot to mention that. Im a antisocial , I have trouble talking to human beings. It is an issue for most poeple. For me, Im fine with having no friends. I won't explain further, but Im happy with it with the way I am right now. Im preoccupied with lots of hobbies (solitary types mostly), and dance being the most social even if im just communicating with my intructor.

It just that Im not getting the sex that is fustrating.

So you don't want a relationship. You just want sex, right? A WG could then be a very good option. Would you be happy seeing WGs and not having a girlfriend for the rest of your life? (There is no right answer to this, and it's not a trap question!)

with your step by step revelations of yourself, this is turning out to be an epic !
previously there were conflicting opinions given to virgins, now that you have told us more about yourself
it's a lot more complicated !

Do you intend to come to HK ?
if you do I suggest you go to a walk up ... someone slightly older - with experience and let her rock your world,
and there's no need to say a single word to them !  Someone like Dan Dan (just reported in the HK Reports section)
but make sure your fully protected and if she doesn't give you enough time to put your rubber on then
you just might have to say one word to her ... NO

and if you're fuking with us with this story the brotherhood will nail you to a cross !

I'm not sure thats a direct link tbh, in that after my rampage in HK in 2008 I came back and started shagging girls in the UK often NSS or ONS but a few I've been out with for a few months nothing overly serious.

What do you mean Kennichi ? You were not good a pulling girls before a mongering pilgrimage in HK and now you are ?

If so, I'm not sure there's a link. But it could be possible. Though, many people not skilled in picking up women don't get more skilled after starting mongering. I think you had already the attitude and personnality but just needed something to make you fully exploit these qualities. So, you probably had it in you (the skill to interact with girls) before starting mongering. For people who don't have this skill, it will take more than solely mongering.

oh believe me, a shrink is necessary !!!
I have a friend ... in his younger days was not too outgoing but had a social life, as years went by he became
more and more reclusive ... to the point where he refuses to see any friends in any gathering, one on one
he talks very little, but more then one person he just leaves ... he needed help to gain whatever is missing back
and he certainly couldn't do it by himself !

"I know im way out of her league. Everyone knows im a awkward guy at my studio.  There is no way I can walk up to her and chat with her or with anyone in the studio."

"Maybe I forgot to mention that. Im a antisocial , I have trouble talking to human beings. It is an issue for most poeple. For me, Im fine with having no friends."

I think this is what you should deal with, man.
Maybe you should get a master ( lol )
Whats wrong with 141 guys teaming up!!!
If youre not decided by summer, how bout july the 7th, 5:15 pm?
just kidding.

Anyways, i think you should find some guy to go out with for some drinks and chat with some girls. Like people mentioned, girls are just like us, some of them are downright nasty! No need to glorify them. You need to feel like number 1!

I remember my first time with my gf when i was 16. We both got drunk and did it, she loved it i hated it (basically didnt feel anything and I kinda don't remember).
I returned home at 8 am and crushed 3 stolen bottles of vodka on my fathers stone floor.

What I'm trying to say is: Many peoples first time stinks, so that gives us an argument for doing it with a nice service minded beauty.
On the other hand, apart from just doing it; i think you should learn to be a bit more talkative

(edit: the worst grammar mistakes)

[ Last edited by  Taro! at 23-3-2010 12:46 ]

I totally agree with you.  Kennichi probably had it in him already to be able to approach and pickup girls in a a bar, club, office, theatre, outside.  He most likely needed affirmation from girls who found him attractive and felt his dick is big (if one watches too much porno when young seeing all those huge guys, one can get a complex) enough to satisfy them.

I have seen many guys come to HK with decent pickup skills then quickly lose those sklils (flirting, small-talk, charm, etc) when they get relocated to China (to an extent), Thailiand or Indonesia.  In those places, a guy just has to be fit/slim, have hair, not elderly, and girls non-professional and professionals will throw themselves onto these guys as soon they walk into a bar, club, restaurant, office, social places.  

These guys get so spoiled because they do not even have to flirt, chat, dance, or even take these girls out for meals with these girls, just take their hands and head straight home for all-night shagging.  It is funny to watch these guys when the companies relocate them back to the real world, ie the West, even HK, Taiwan, Singapore.  They find themselves stumbling for words and sweating when trying to chat up girls here.  They get so easily frustrated that most girls ignore them.

That's amazing! I can see how they might get spoilt in the poorer
countries in the region, but to totally lose it all as a result is sad.

BTW, congrats Lord doghead, always enjoy your posts!

Wow, Twice, that sounds a bit like me!

So what happened to the guy? Did the shrink manage to help him?

You beat me at it...I thought he was talking about me and wanted to ask: "Hey Twice...we were friends ? What's you real name ?!!"

guys, i signed up for a christian choir. I really love to sing. I hope, Il find some girls there, but probably most of them wont have sex until marriage.

dude!! I have no word to describe you.

Do as you like. We are not qualify to study your soul or mind. We are not psychologists.

Not sure how old are you and what;s your real issue here, go to your pappa or seek counselling elsewhere.

First you start with losing your virginity to a wg, then u are anti-social and now you join some biblical group just to find pussy.
do you have any idea what you are talking about?

All the bros in this forum replied and offer some good advice, but this is just a waste of time.

Closing this thread.