I can't tell if you're taking the piss or being judgemental at this point.

We've all had lack of success in some areas and I was just looking for advice from some bros.

I'm going to sidestep my skills issue at this point because there's really little reason to vindicate myself on a message board. Only her and I were there, and I know her better than you do. Much to my fortune, she's a hot and nice girl that hasn't been around the block. I simply wanted to improve our love-making.

Having said that, comparing dicks online doesn't seem to be a good use of time.

But I have to say this much, your first comment said the following: "I get the impression that u are a DFK/oral plaesure noob yourself by asking this type of question. So, instead of her watching the sex vids, I think you should watch more yourself."

Presumptuous stone throwing seems to be more of an immature teenage trait than my open-minded request for advice from others. So if we're not in highschool anymore, let's act like friendly adults, shall we?

I threw the mom joke in there cause I thought we were just having fun. I've read your posts and I respect your contributions to this board, so can we stop the hating?

I've gotta agree with that. The first time I saw Japanese porn, I was like WTF is going on? I hate to say it, but we learn a lot from porn and I wouldn't be too surprised if this has effected the porn watching population.

Try to differenciate presumptous stone throwing, pissy, judgemental, immaturity and jokes.

And nobody hates nobody in this site, we just love to throw adult jokes and sarcasm to spice up the forum and attract more comments/discussion, but never a cheap joke (since u mention it again) about somebody;s mom...that;s low.

I get what you're saying about Japanese porn. The first time I saw it, I was like WTF is going on? Are they kissing each other or are they literally trying to suck each others face off? Teenagers learn a lot about sex from porn, so I wouldn't be too surprised if this kind of thing started to have an effect on the Asian population.

OK, I see that we do need to define our terms better... My definition of the LFK I prefer has the tongues entwining a bit beyond the teeth, but not in any way straining, not even slightly. Inner lips contact is a given of course, cause otherwise it's just pecking!

What I need to clarify though, is that I pay more focus on the contact between the inner lips, which I find more sensuous than the mouth walls and the tongue itself. I would say I spend about 10% of my kissing in DFK, 40% in LFK and 50% on only full lips contact. I never lick the nostrils.

when did kissing involve nostril licking? haha

It does in Japanese porn, while the guy is slobbering and trying to suck off the helpless girl's (thats what it usually appears like) lips, his head his moves up and he starts slurping and sucking the girl's nose

some gals actually like it, but dont go doing freaky stunt like the avatar i posted earlier.
Some even like wet kiss and licking on their eyes!!!
Explore explore....gals like to be licked, but do it with sensuality and full of passion.
But when it comes to intense sex, we can also bite each other, not too SM, but to the extend of making them felt iu are so into them and you just want to eat every part of their body, delicious and yummy!!!

Your LFK is not that much different from what I consider DFK. That you would think DFK involves licking each other's nostrils explains the confusion. I may go a bit deeper than what you describe, but there is no straining, little deliberate contact with the inner mouth walls, or tongue forced deep into the throat.

I wonder how many guys over here in Asia derive their idea of what French kissing is from Japanese porn. In those 15 years I spent in Japan, I must have taught 30-40 girls how to kiss properly; there were times when I felt like a one of those guys who works deprogramming cult members, so bad was their technique.

A Japanese girl, who had a lot of experience with Western and Japanese guys once said something interesting to me about the different ways guys make love: she said that Japanese guys tend to choose positions, like doggy and squatting between the girl's legs, where there is little physical contact other than genital; whereas Westerners like to maximize full body contact, like embracing the girl in mish and kissing while fucking. She said Japanese guys rarely kiss while screwing, but see it as part of the foreplay, and that some Japanese guys don't kiss the mouth at all, just the body. Japanese guys do seem to like DATY tho.

A lot of what you see in Japanese porn is a parody of how they think Westerners screw. I never had a Japanese lover who whimpered like an insane chimp during sex; and Japanese never slobber all over each other's faces.

[ Last edited by  Marsupial at 6-11-2009 02:42 ]

oh no, I def believe people do lick nostrils & lick all over as a prelude to something more sexual....It can be rather sensual as its part of touching.  As part of just LFK or peck, I just wasn't thinking nostril licking haha

you should change your name to Professor Marsupial.  Loads of college girls can line up to take your class.

Everyone is different, kissing technique likes/dislikes have a huge range. I have taken great pleasure in exploring what I like with new partners and they may adapt to what I prefer, and if it is a new experience for them they  may even learn how to please me whilst pleasing themselves, or vice versa. There is no magic bullet, but IMO jut relaxing and going with the flow will soon determine if two people are compatible or not. There is only so much "teaching" one can do or receive, it's like that classic saying .... "just close your eyes honey and let it happen" ... or maybe not?

My god Baggins! take a position and stick to it! It seems everything you post lately is qualified and hesitant. What kind of a bloody Aussie are you anyway?

Bro, you know my ending about nostril licking was for fun, right? I definitely do not derive anything, and I mean anything, from Japanese porn!!

I've seen you lapping up girl's noses in saunas ...

Grumbles, I did take a position. You can't force compatibly, either side can show/learn new techniques but I wouldn't be losing any sleep if it doesn't work out, that's life. You state everything I say lately is "qualified and hesitant" .... I'm not sure if that is true, it's for others to judge, but I know I am reasonably tolerant of people's predilections and peccadillo's. I do know your personality thrives on challenging and gets off on prodding a debate, sometimes it just seems like looking for an argument for argument's sake .... anyway I find your posts mostly entertaining.

If you are interested in my personal likes re kissing it is soft and sensual. I dislike a hard tongue being thrust like a dagger into my mouth. I suspect some WGs think this is what all "johns" like but I have had some WGs adapt quite nicely to my preference, and I'm kind'a thinking they end up enjoying it more themselves too (less work?).

I don't know what preconception you have about Aussie guys, but I would hate to think of myself as some form of ocker stereotype.  Peace and prosperity Bro.  

I assume that's irony; if not, never take the stand in your own defense Froddo.

In any case, anyone from Boston, where the highest compliment is "not bad", would understand that my post was just a bit of harmless, affectionate joshing. (Gimmie a manhug you big lug. )

Interesting question tho about the stereotypical Aussie. I'd say - and don't get upset because I'll admit upfront that I know fuckall about Aussies - the typical Aussie is blunt, not subtle, good-natured, mock-irascible but easy to anger, and definitely does not qualify his opinions or pull his punches. Feedback please.

You continue with this "Grumbles" thing and I'm going to make this guy my new avatar: