Subject: HIV/AIDS is just as easily transmitted orally
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Reply #40 CunningLinguist's post

You could try one of the "extra whitening" brands too.

With all the bad publicity on toxins in Chinese products lately maybe you should take your own toothpaste Cunning .... Although I think the biggest risk would be just from an allergy rash.
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Just read the first page, but for all of you that have your panties up in a bunch because no one can provide facts to back up their arguements, I typed in the title of this thread into google and pulled the first link that came up.

Can you get HIV AIDS through oral sex?
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_you_get_HIV_AIDS_through_oral_sex

This thread is a good reminder for why I moved to the Chinese forums. So many of you here act like children.

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Reply #42 English's post

You just couldn't resist another polk eh ?  

anyway for the bros here who visits both sides, I think the majority would say this English side is
a lot more mature and we actually have healthy debates here ...

as for this thread ... the main point is ... it doesn't matter how big or small the risk of any infection is,
if we properly use protection we minimize the risk, and if we don't use protection we have no one to blame !
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Reply #42 English's post

I typed that sentence of yours into Google, and the link you provide was the 9th entry to come up, so obviously you began your search expressly looking for a contrary opinion.

The 1st Google link to appear is from the Center for Disease Control and Prevention (http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/qa/qa19.htm), where it is written:

"Yes, it is possible for either partner to become infected with HIV through performing or receiving oral sex. There have been a few cases of HIV transmission from performing oral sex on a person infected with HIV.While no one knows exactly what the degree of risk is, evidence suggests that the risk is less than that of unprotected anal or vaginal sex."

The second link from your Google search is also from the Center for Disease Control (http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/resources/Factsheets/pdf/oralsex.pdf) and states:

"The risk of HIV transmission from an infected partner through oral sex is much less than the risk of HIV transmission from anal or vaginal sex."

Which is exactly what everyone, except kruptionk, has written in this thread. If you had read those posts, you would know that no one is saying that HIV transmission via oral sex is impossible. One can also say it's possible to get AIDS from DFK - if both you and the HIV positive girl have open cuts in your mouths. All sorts of weird shit is possible. We have only said that it is rare, certainly much rarer than via BB vag sex.  

Your link is to Wiki Answers which is "user generated content" so who is the source of this info? (Actually, I could create an account right now, sign in to Wiki Answers and write anything I wanted on the subject.) Click on the 'disclaimer' link in the upper right corner where you will be taken to a page where it says:

"While Answers makes every effort to present accurate and reliable information in its Services, Answers does not endorse, approve, or certify such information, nor does it guarantee the accuracy, completeness, efficacy, timeliness, or correct sequencing of such information."

That doesn't inspire much confidence does it?

But even so, I quote from your linked article:

DATY: "Female is HIV positive and gets sucked: A small chance of virus from vaginal fluids going into bloodstream through cuts and sores in the mouth. Bad teeth and infected gums can catch the virus. Not dangerous if the mouth is healthy. "

"Yes you can. Its definitely lower risk than unprotected sex, but yes."

"Although some sources will tell you that the risks of transmission through oral sex are minimal; other studies have suggested that as many as ten percent of HIV transmissions could have occurred through oral sex."  (I can't find any references to this 10% anywhere on the web, by the way.)

"Yes, this is possible but rare. For instance, if there are cuts or sores in the mouth and there is a transfer of blood, AIDS transfer is a possibility."

"HIV usually can't be spread by oral sex. The virus has to pass into your bloodstream. If you have terrible teeth and your gums are all bleeding then you shouldn't be sucking any strange penises or vaginas. "

These comments were obviously written by many different "users" all expressing their personal opinions, but even so, I see nothing to contradict what we have been saying.

And you're being a bit disingenuous concerning your reasons for quitting the English forums aren't you bro? You gathered up your marbles and went off in a huff to the Chinese side because the Admins took away your Mod privileges for abuse of power.

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Post at 24-6-2009 17:10  Profile P.M. 
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by CunningLinguist at 24-6-2009 01:17 AM
I'm a newbie when it comes to all this... My question is, as I usually DATY and receive BBBJ and kiss passionately, should I be brushing my teeth before or after all of this? And does rinsing with Lis ...

Don't brush before or after performing DATY or kissing.  Brushing can result in slight cuts in your gums, which sometimes causes minute bleeding.  These cuts, although small, may give disease an opportunity to enter your body.

Granted, the chances are very low.  But if you want to minimize your chances further, don't brush.  Rinsing with Listermint after sex is good enough.

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hunter   25-6-2009 09:29  Karma  +1   Listerine is da best
Thai-delight   25-6-2009 09:24  Acceptance  +3   Excellent point.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by furryfriend at 24-6-2009 17:10
Don't brush before or after performing DATY or kissing.  Brushing can result in slight cuts in your gums, which sometimes causes minute bleeding.  These cuts, although small, may give disease an opportunity to enter your body.

Very good point.

But I usually just had them rinise their mouth with listerine before the sess and in China I request them not to use those lousy and smelly toothpaste provided by the hotel.




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QUOTE:
Originally posted by English at 24-6-2009 09:59
Just read the first page, but for all of you that have your panties up in a bunch because no one can provide facts to back up their arguements, I typed in the title of this thread into google and pull ...

English you need to get out more, spend some time on the "dark Side".  If you had the time to read this thread and how it came to be, you would see that you have been caught with "your panties up in a bunch".  Too little time, so much to do ... a problem we all share   

Anyway, why not stick around a little? Quite a few grown ups here too.
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Post at 25-6-2009 03:52  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #45 furryfriend's post

Thanks for the advice, bro... Actually, I know about micro cuts from brushing!
I was only trying to bring some lightness to this thread by trying to be funny...




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Reply #48 CunningLinguist's post

yes I got the joke ... I mean who could take it seriously when Cunning says  "I'm a newbie when it comes to all this..."
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Reply #45 furryfriend's post

Never thought about that, although you are absolutely right.
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