Thanks both of you for the civil, adult responses.

Hong Kong is a unique place in Asia with freedom of speech, independent media, fair justice, low corruption, free market. I'm genuinely sad that all these are slowly taken away by China.

Yes those kids are loud and messy (I said the oath incident was regrettable) but they do stand for something they believe in and break the general apathy of Hong Kong people toward political matters. It is this apathy that will allow China to do whatever they want with Hong Kong way before 2047 and the end of the "agreement".

Yes I do agree that political discussion and activism are important in a society, and helps the people and city/region/country grow.

One can argue that constructive discussion bear weight, while movements such as these are detrimental to Hong Kong as a whole and ruining it for the rest of us.

Of course young people have dreams and ideals, but one must be pragmatic in their approach and think ahead about the larger picture. Hong Kong is not a country, it's a Chinese city that has been granted certain autonomy for a fixed period of time, until the transition to being a full blown integrated Chinese city is complete. There's no two ways about this, unless HK becomes a shithole so run down that no one wants.

How Hong Kong is handled will depend on the decisions of the PRC in 2047 or before. If Hong Kong is an orderly place which prospers, PRC will probably try to change as little as possible, why change a winning team right.

However if there's disruptive groups, violence, anti government schemes, groups trying to undermine the PRC, what do you think China will do? What do you do when your teenage kid acts up and misbehaves? You impose stricter rules, you ground him, you take away his allowance.

I want HK to be a great place as much as anyone else. This is my home, I eat, sleep and fuck here. We are already living in a place that is so awesome, so safe, so prosperous, they do not realise it. I wouldn't trade HK for a London or a New York, having lived in both of those places I can tell you the violence, the racism, the crimes are just horrific. These kids are doing all they can to make it "their HK", but this is as much my HK as it is theirs.

Anyways have a good day sir, I wish you a good punt in your near future.

wow
i agree with you
she is really so cutee

yeah she is super cute.
maybe that's how she got elected lol
I've been following her on the news.

http://www.nytimes.com/video/wor ... hing-interview.html

it's not only these "kids" … the entire problem been fostered by the pan democrats over the last 10 years who could not get things to their way so they resorted to antics that's grown every year … these kids have just increased the antics dis proportionately
every member in legco have failed their duty to the hk people, they have become an institute of growing hatred between themselves …

that "kid" taking his oath with his finger crossed is not childish, it's an insult to everyone in HK

Heard that they have lost their seat because of their antics.  Any truth to that?

Decision's have not been made, but it is a possibility. The consequences of their actions go far beyond them just losing their seats though.

What consequences? A backlash resulting from China's interference? If that's what you meant, I don't think China cares.

I mean that their irresponsible actions caused the central government to intervene, interpreting the basic law. This sets a precedent, and may very well pave a different path for HKs future.

As I said, if HK is orderly and prosperous China will let us work it out, but if unruly, violent and disruptive China will tighten its control. It's common sense really, but it seems that the latter will apply now for better or for worse.