Subject: Married guys and the liar's band
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Reply #19 wander's post

I always tell the WG I'm not married but they never believe me. Who would believe an oldie like me is not married at my wrinkled age?!

They believe in lies and never believe in the truth sometimes.

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Post at 9-7-2012 13:39  Profile P.M. 
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Take ring off replace with bandaid...
That was ez, next problem.
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For all you ring removers, I have a question.  Do you think that the WG is operating on some higher moral plane than you, and she might, gasp, pass judgement on you?  'cuz chances are she's got a boyfriend/family back home who thinks she's a waitress.

Sorry if this sounds harsh, but I am genuinely confused as to why some people go to the trouble.
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Reply #23 yazoo's post

I think the reason they do this is a desire not to disclose any personal information about themselves and, specifically, not to disclose information they feel could be "blackmail" material.  I guess they think that WGs will use this information against them.  

I gotta admit that very early in my mongering career I hid and lied aswell.  But I found that playing the anonymous "john" made her play the anonymous hooker.  You cant connect if everyone is lying about themselves.  So, I dropped the pretense and am just myself with the gals -- and as a consequence they become relaxed and open as well.  A much better session and much more GFE.

and PS:  I've had a few spooky moments with WGs but none have deliberately tried to invade my private life.  And I've known a LOT of WGs.
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Originally posted by wander at 9-7-2012 21:01
So, I dropped the pretense and am just myself with the gals -- and as a consequence they become relaxed and open as well.  A much better session and much more GFE.

  ...

Is this also your consistent experience with PRC girls too, or is this mostly the case with Wanchai gals ie Indonesians, Filipinas?
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Reply #25 JckJr's post

Well, the vast majority of my gals have been Filipina, Thai, or Indonesian.  But my experience includes about 3 or 4 PRC gals (who lived in HK) that became regulars.  And yeah..., the experience with them was the same as with the others.  (girls and girls the world-over, IMO).
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Reply #1 Rj1972's post

You are mongering and you are married. You pay money to fuck the brains out (of yourself or the girls - whichever tickles your fancy)... so are we discussing any moral issues here? I doubt so...

So who the f@#$ cares if you are married or not? So why does the wedding band matters?

Yazoo and Wander is right, wedding bands are chick magnets. Same experience here and I couldn't agree more.

SEAJ is not entirely right but he is not quite wrong either. Many women told me married men are a better catch...

For me, I keep the ring on. One thing is for fear I may lose it during my adventures! Now that will be the most difficult to answer if we lose our ring...




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Post at 12-7-2012 17:39  Profile P.M. 
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In alot of cases married guys feel guilty (er?) if the ring stays on for whatever reason (i'd imagine it's a visible symbol of morality?).

The only problems with fake tans and the like are that they can create more questions from SO's which would put more pressure on the situation. My advice would be to avoid thatif possible.

The other issue with removing a wedding ring is the possibility of losing it (happened to a friend of mine who used to visit clubs to pick up women).

I think a wedding ring is possibly one of the least things a WG could blackmail you with (there are a lot of threads bringing up this possibility!) as they'd need more info such as name etc (covered in other threads) so unless it is a problem i might be worth leaving the ring on.

The other options are to not wear the ring while doing sports/going for walks. Given summer weather in HK any tan line would fade I'd imagine or wear other rings.
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Can I venture in suggesting something?

Cut the finger...
Yeah kind of drastic but hey, no marks and you still got the middle finger for driving inEurope or the States!!!

Errrr.... Sorry... Yes I know my way out, dont show me!!!!
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Cut it off! Little drastic no?  but I bet I'd be able to say is was the result of a work related accident and get insurance money....

I think I'll keep it just so I have 3 fingers for those girls who need it and hope I don't lose it inside.
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more like the SO would cut off the finger when she finds out where you have been parking your penis. I suppose that is better than the Thai way, those girls cut off the penis and fee it to ducks.Or so I am told.

Keep on mongering, discreetly and safely
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Originally posted by Rj1972 at 7-7-2012 02:22 AM
But that pesky liars band on the wedding ring finger gives the lie away. Civies have no interest in a married man either.

Honestly just rather avoid the discussion if I could and not have it so visib ...

trying too hard & getting caught as a liar is bad with anyone incl WGs.

Absolutely not true....civvies ARE interested in married men, usually its very subtle to an outsider.
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Reply #32 sirtiger's post

Well, you certainly dont want to lie about being married with civvies --- a spiteful girl can do enormous damage.  A WG doesnt care much and discretion is the whole point of the trade....   but a civvie is a different matter.  If she jumped into bed with you because you lied and she thought you were serious about her the damage when she learns the truth could be massive.  Dont play with fire!
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Agree with Wander here. Lying to a civvi on this will get you into trouble and honestlywg couldnt care less unless you offer the ring to them and they can have it melted forthe gold. Remember, its WORKING girl, so that means they do it for a fee, not pleasure (but it does not mean you can act as a douche or dress like crap... They still have som epreferences.. But the ring is not one of those as most of us are married guys....).
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Reply #33 wander's post

Totally true - as I have said a few times in this forum: "hell hath no fury like a woman scorned"

I can testify to that as I have gone through that...with my SO. I am still one lucky bastard that she maintained her composure, probably she loves me enough not to do anything worse than making my life difficult for a few years.

My punting life curtailed because I was careless and my SO found out about one of my GFs while I am married. So Wander is right, don't mess with civvies with lies...once they get hooked and found out everything was all a lie...many men will probably wish they are living in hell instead of getting if from a "woman scorned"!




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This is all a very stimulating discussion to me as I:

1.        Engage our favorite activity 2x weekly

2.        Am happily married to an amazing girl and wear the ring

3.        As I sense from most of the brothers here, am possibly on the high side of the average age and perhaps with it having a bit more of the prosperity that comes with age and experience in your career

4.        seem to find myself the subject of attention and low degree flirtation or other “expressions of interest” as I term them by local civie woman who are younger than me where I see them repeatedly (e.g. staff in my gym, employees of tenants on the same floor of my office building, shops I frequent)

I agree with the premise that girls are attracted to married men. However as I am a bit thick in such things which other people can see readily can someone please explain to me why ? OK, I understand married men:

1.        Generally more stable, and mature, and sophisticated than singles (unless of course the single man was previously married), both in life generally and when it comes to dealing with women

2.        Not a loser or creepy or weirdo guy as he had to do something right to get married and stay married.

3.        Has some type of regular income or wealth so he can support the wife and perhaps children.

All girls like all these things as its part of their DNA to seek out a mate and provider and of course a married man can be an indicator for the above mentioned things and some chicks would like. They go where there are men with these qualities.

However, the married men are (usually) not available, as they are married. This should be obvious. In most cases all the qualities that make such men attractive to the single civies are the qualities that keep the man married: faithfulness, integrity, ability to provide. Unless they can tempt the man away, they will never get him.   Perhaps the flirting is a projection of this, that they think they can catch his eye, just like they might a younger single guy closer to his age?

Someone explain it please.

Keep on mongering

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Reply #36 gwailoplayer's post

don't forget the thrill & challenge. Some girls...yeah even the hot ones are getting hit on by single guys a LOT.  When a guy doesn't due to his marital status, it intrigues them.  On a related reasoning....I know gay guys who are hit on by girls....thinking the gay guys will switch teams!

Also they are less guarded when they know a guy is married at 1st few encounters.  This has an impact on how the relationship goes fwd.
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Never felt the need to remove my ring, I guess I'm echoing earlier comments but I no see no good reason to do it. I find my self having reasonably frequent conversations with WG's about my wife and kids, I never lie to them, I just don't see the point and I reckon they've got a pretty radar for picking guys who lie to them. Also it's hard work to lie, you have to keep remembering what you said last. Easier to change the subject if the conversation goes to an area you don't want to discuss.
I've also shown girls pics of my kids, they love it and tell me I am a good father, WTF?? I never show pics of my wife, I think that would be disrespectful for both ladies, not sure why.
Here's a bizarre one for you, the only time I have removed my ring was for a girl I was seeing (civvie), she asked me to remove it when we went out as she was embarrassed by me being married. We also had dinner with friends of hers one night, same deal, she just called me her friend.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by gwailoplayer at 13-7-2012 19:04
However as I am a bit thick in such things which other people can see readily can someone please explain to me why ? ...

When it comes to understanding what a girl wants, I think we're all in the same boat!!  Completely clueless

It blew my mind when it first started happening to me ...

... and then it began to make sense:  why is it that women are so possessive and protective of their partners?  It becomes obvious: it's because they know what girls are like!  

WOMEN know that women are attracted to older men,
THEY know that young girls will screw anything with grey hairs and a confident attitude
because when they were younger they also had that warmth in their panties when they interacted with male teachers, bosses, and other senior role models

They get turned on by confidence, by physical and emotional strength, by intelligence (life experience is often taken as a proxy for intelligence), and by social power and status (just as we want to do the Alpha hottie they want the Alpha male).  If you can impress her friends, and make them want you, you get a double whammy of desire

Of course, if you're also in-shape, well-dressed, and can pay your way (and hers), it amplifies whatever other physical qualities you may have.  

MUCH more sexy than the alternative: an insecure clingy geek who has neither time freedom nor money to burn

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Reply #39 DArtagnan's post

very helpful reply , and answered my question above and also why my SO is always "on point" when we are in social situations like parties where there are lots of young girls available to talk to me.

that's me:   

"... confidence, by physical and emotional strength, by intelligence (life experience is often taken as a proxy for intelligence), and by social power and status (just as we want to do the Alpha hottie they want the Alpha male)"

and

"..in-shape, well-dressed, and can pay your way "

especially the part about life experience taking as a proxy for intelligence. I am certainly long on life experience and short on intelligence

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