What wife or girl friend.  I am still single and never had a serious girlfriend.  There was a poll in sex141. There is a large group of members that are single or divorced.

Now if I do get a serious girlfriend or SO, I have to get rid of things. Get rid of biz cards, maps, notes, photos, telephone numbers etc.

On my computers there are ton of stuff a possible SO will kill me.   

[ Last edited by  Weelock at 14-4-2012 03:31 ]

Caught and divorced.

One of the most harrowing experiences in my life was being woken up at 2am to  my wife, standing there with my laptop, tears flooding her face and the look of the most severe pain screaming "you fucked her, you fucked her". The irony being that who she was talking about on this occasion I had not fucked. Trying to, but hadn't. It shook me to my core, and I slumped down on the bed and knew at that point that it was over, and I had hurt this girl more than I ever thought possible.

For what it's worth here's my advice on this.

1) If you want to whore, don't be married of long time GF. If she is the right one for you, you shouldn't feel the need to whore.  
2) Kai tak rules - don't whore on your doorstep, save it for business trips
3) Don't come home smelling freshly showered. Imagine your wife goes out with the girls, and comes home drunk but smelling like she has just stepped out of the shower. What you gonna think? Dab beer about your body like after shave to cover it. Eat a bag of high smelling chips / crisps to hide that stong cunny smell on your fingers.
4) Bag up. Always and for everything.
5) Never bring them back to your house. I know so many people who have been caught this way. To save a couple hundred bucks then that is crazy. Doubly so for Filippina cling ons that will most likely just turn up one day.
6) Does not matter how careful you are, you will slip up. My first major slip was, whilst booking a hotel for a holiday with her, went to open up my regular email I tapped in akka76 on autopilot which she saw before I could delete it. That is my user name on ISG and that site is not google proof. From there it all spiralled.
7) As fun as they are, avoid freelancers and Wanchai. For some stupid reason Married men take their wives there and this opens to door to a whole load of shit. As you walk down the road with someone that is not your GF / Wife, you might get seen from 100mtrs away and you then have a time bomb waiting there. I was seen a yr before amagheddon hit coming out of a gogo bar with a mate. Word got back in about 3 minutes (her friends were cunts, I hated them and the feeling was mutual). That bomb hit me4 months later when I successfully proved I was in Jakarta so could not have been me. There was also a pic in HKmag (fucking pricks) of 106 bar which showed me side on walking out surrounded by maids (what fucking bar luck I have) which was thrown in my face as well; luckily i was sporting a mates rucksack at the time which she had not seen, and I pointed at it and said it was not me due to the bag.

Many other tips but the first is the biggest. I did not want to hurt her and I still want to be with her. But I am a sexual deviant (filth to the core) and can't help myself. Worse when I am sober than drunk by the way...

I always tell my wife if I have plan to get a girl before I do it. As long as I am not trying to hide something from her she is fine with it.

She already knew that I always had a lot of girls before we got married, mostly civilian but the occasional WG and she was OK with it then. After getting married I cut down the number of girls I get by a lot since I don't want anyone making trouble for us so I have to be more choosy and due to lack of time since my wife is my priority and I enjoy spending time with her. I don't go out to Wan Chai without her anymore because I don't want her friends to see me there by myself and make her feel embarrassed to her friends since she doesn't like her friends to know about it.

I do keep some gfs in HK that I see occasionally, most of them I have introduced to my wife so she feels more comfortable about me seeing them. Sometimes she likes to watch if the other girl will let her.

I would have been perfectly happy to be single all my life and enjoy my life by myself if I never found a girl who could accept me as a horny bastard. I was almost 40 before I got married, but luckily I found one who not only accepts it but enjoys it.

Sympathies bro - but sometimes things happens for a reason/the old karma thing.

Anyway, just a few more tips/things I do to minimise risk
- On that "fresh smell after the cheap hotel soap" - I'd always roll up all the windows in my car, turn on the heater full blast and smoke away.
- I started taking Vit V/C whenever I came home too late after a night out. SO would a lot of time be right there to welcome me home and wanting to do "it" - and thus the Vit V/C for insurance!
- On being caught out - NEVER ever admit it even if caught outright; reason being that once you admit it, then its game over AS FAR AS THE SO IS CONCERNED. You see, if you'd deny it, then she'd at least have a tiny bit of ground to not divorce; that she sees you're tryuing your utmost to try to save the marriage, even by lying vs. if you admit it - which confirms to her that you couldn't even be bothered to do anything to save it.
-Try to keep ALL outside affairs into a paying proposition - this saves a heckuva lot of hassles/repercussions...and reinforces my own belief that its nothing but a paid relationship.

SEAJ

Someone told me once of a guy that was shagging a hooker and his missus walked in and caught him in the act; the SO walked straight out of the flat without saying a word. The guy knew he was fucked, kicked the hooker out, cleaned the place up and sat on the sofa watching a movie until she came back. He pretended nothing had happened. Stead fast saying "what you talking about,I've been doing some work, had a bite to eat (pointing to the single dirty plate which he had prepared), and watching TV. He refused it and was so adamant about it she eventually thought she was mistaken and they are still together and laugh about the time at dinner parties when she "thought she walked in..." All the boys knew the real story, and apparently she believes now it did not happen.

Just be smart, discrete, low key.  Then the more you do it, the less guilt you should feel.

If you do keep feeling guilty, then punting while in a steady relationship is not for you.

Most women who grow up in a society or culture where men fuck around understand that it happens, but would like to believe that it never happens to their man.  This is usually true of most Asian, European, and Middle East women.  Divorces are also frowned upon in these cultures, which is a good reason as to why women suck it up and just deal with it.

North American women won't tolerate it nearly as much.  They have their feminist movement support, a culture and society that completely frowns upon polygamy or any form of extra-marital affairs, and a lot more financial independence.  So the man can't nearly get away as much as his counterpart over in Europe and Asia.  Hence, also why we don't have the FKKS of Europe or the saunas of Asia.

My Chinese friend always denies everything strongly to his wife. When they were first married she used to try to catch him. One time she found a name card of a mamasan from a nightclub in China. My friend kept insisting that it was just drinking and a show but she didn't believe it. She insisted that he take her and she called the mamasan to make reservations. My friend insisted I come with him as he thought it would be easier if he wasn't alone with her.

That mamasan must have had a lot of experience. We arrived and she sat us in a public area of the night club. The manasan made sure there were no club girls to be seen. I had been there with my friend before a few times and those times there were girls all over the place.  There was a show and we had some drinks. His wife tried to talk to the mamasan and the mamasan acted shocked when asked about if there were club girls there. I was very impressed.

Finally she gave up and we left.

After a few years she stopped trying to catch him at anything. One time she talked to me about it when we were alone. She asked me what we do when we go to clubs, I told just have some drinks and talk about men things. She said that she knows he gets club girls, but now she is older she realizes it is better if she doesn't see it doesn't get proof, so sometimes she sees proof and she pretends she doesn't see it and just tries not to think about it. That is better than always making herself crazy trying to catch him and anyway he always comes home after he finishes and her life is good besides that so it is better to just live with it like that.

She never brought up the topic to me again and I never told my friend she said that.

"1) If you want to whore, don't be married of long time GF. If she is the right one for you, you shouldn't feel the need to whore."

Man...I share this opinion of yours as well. My view is that I'll punt all that I can now and once I find the right girl, I'll stop it forever. But the deeper I get into punting...the harder I think it will be for me to stop...sigh..

I 100% blame the internet. If not for punternet, I would not have been a whore hound in the UK. If not for sex141 I would not have been a whore hound in HK. Sure I would have done it, but not with the fervency. Amazingly I moved to BK, and did not whore for a long time until I stumbled upon another locals website and bang, off again.

lol...I agree with you here. If it wasn't for this board, I wouldn't have known the pleasures of Macau saunas very well. Really addictive!!!

Yeah fair enough, i accept that - but I don't live in HK (it was on the cards at one point which brought me here), though I still look for options to. At the time i was guilt wracked, but it passed and i've maintained a solid interest ever since. Not that I am some priss questioning people's own levels of self-guilt - was just interested that's all.

No worries dude...I wasn't trying to make a point or anything. Just made what I thought was an interesting observations. Anyway, there's quite a few discussions threads here regarding feeling jaded while punting, etc . Or you can just start a thread adn share your experiences. To each his own and from all, we learn.

I agree!  The freaking internet is what got me started and to this day keeps me going along with being a complete man whore.  There is no way I would of ever got started on this exciting adventure though.  LOL!!  It sure is fun.

lol never. once was close by parents.. but luckily..

LOL - When I lived in the UK, my old dear asked me to look after her house and dogs for a week so off I went. The next morning she came down to find me on my laptop checking out adultwork for escorts in the area. She gave me a stern warning about "not bringing back people to her house". Well of course I did not bring anyone to her house at all; they arrived all by themselves.

I admit everthing.... But the deed. I generally show a lot of self restraint and self control. I go to a massage place that gives happy endings because my friend enjoys those things and we're having a nightlife. Yes... I had a massage... But you're the customer. They must respect your wishes If you say no. It's not that difficult...

KTV... Yes... We get girls to come sit with us... Otherwise what... I'm going to KTV with a few blokes? It's just added company... Like if your friends bring friends. Doesn't mean I have to leave with them.... Bedlsides... I'm generally too drunk by the end of the night to do anything anyway.

I've never had any problems with any SO with my reasoning.

~UD

May I ask if your wife is Asian or Caucasian? My experience with gfs and such is that the Caucasian gf is more likely to believe such things.

No Shit!

Many/most Caucasion GFs do not accept that you are even just chatting up/flirting with other girls.  This, by itself, is reason for divorce for many of them.  The media, the culture, the feminst movement.., have all created a very different environment and set of expecations from what we see in Asia.  It is an unrealistic expectation, in my opinion, but one that is firmly planted in the culture.

Some Bro, earlier in this thread, said "if she is the "one" than you'll never need or want to whore around".  Bullshit!  It might be true for the first year or even first 5 or more years.  But a common reality is that our sex-drives are often MUCH higher than a woman's.  Their hope is that we just live with it.  Little sex henceforth...

I did just that, for a while, I lived with it.  My SO was indeed the "one" for me.  I knew it early and still believe it.  So do I accept a diminished sex-life till the end of my days just to be with her?

FUCK THAT!  

I can love my SO to death and have her back till the end of time (which I do)..., and still get my rocks off elsewhere one or more times per week.  These two facts are not mutually-exclusive.  Western Culture (and Disney) says it is.., but that is bullshit.  

A few enlightened western woman have come to recognize this.  My SO must be one of them, or surely I would have been caught out years ago if she wasnt.  For why should my sex-drive be any less important than hers?  Just because she doesnt want it as often anymore means I have accept a crap sex-life?  No.  

Just be prepared for the worst case scenario.  If the shit hits the fan with your SO, can you live with the consequences?  If not.., dont fuck around.  You WILL get caught eventually -- and you need to "man up" and pay the piper when it happens.  If that doesnt sit well than be a good boy.., bored and blue-balled, perhaps, but guilt-free and secure.

It is a choice.

Damn bro my sentiments exactly.  I hate what the American culture has become with respect to this feminist bullshit that my fathers generation allowed to happen.  Way too many of my friends just roll over and play dead when it comes to their wives instead of trying to find something to supplement their lives like we have here on 141.  My S.O. has zero interest in sex unless all nine planets align and even then I don't think I could pay her for a BBBJ.  She knows I am an ass hound and just chooses to ignore the situation.

There is no way I will spend the next 40 years spanking it to some porn image on a computer when I can have a drop dead gorgeous LBFM whenever I want.  I always laugh at my buddies that say "Yah but I have a problem paying for sex."  LMAO Dip $hit you are paying for sex one way or the other!  I would much rather dole out some coin to a complete hottie that is enjoying sex with me versus buying my S.O. some freaking purse in the hopes that I might get a little play.  

To the real young guys, dont be in a hurry to get hitched.  Women are very good at sucking you in at first and then 5-10 years down the road they get their chastity belt and your life starts to suck real bad.  Give them a couple of kids and you are ready to jump from the balcony.

Like Wander said, know your exit strategy.  I am sure something will come up eventually and that will be the end.  I will always remember her and be friends, but my life will go on and I will be laying some massive pipe!!