Tony,

She and you were too good for those assholes, not because of money or race, but because of attitude and class. Some people, no matter their race, just don't get that.

Man, I have never seen an eye so swollen and bruised.  Jesus, I could barely recognize her.  Bros, I dont want to share this pic with anyone - and she doesnt want me to either - she looks horrible in it.  Pls dont ask, alright?

And I learned what the operation was for.  Damn.  Seems her eye was actually pulled or jerked or "suctioned" out of its socket. (!!!) Damage to the muscles or internal skin or something.  Man, my heart just bleeds for her - she fuckin didnt deserve this.  Doc says she might not be open her eye for 6 months.  And will it move/function properly afterwards?  They dont know.

Anyway, I apologize for this depressing thread.

How the fuck could a guy do this to a girl?

I know the girls use monitors all over the floor/building they work, but do they record anything at all? I imagine if this happens enough, they would need to have some sort of blacklist just to protect themselves. It'd be sad if the only way was through racial profiling...

Up to now, I've not read anything in the newspapers etc on this case/this case is NOT getting the attention it deserves.

Since its now in the open to the police etc that she had overstayed etc - I suggest that she/you/her agent contact Zee Teng (?? - that organization working for the benefit of Working Gals), who although doesn't really represent that many gals/mostly locals, nonetheless makes a LOT of noise about things like this.

Zee Teng will probably help her out in things like raising funds to cover her medical fees, (thus formalizing the mechanism that you've started here), arrange for her to stay longer in Hong Kong to complete her medical treatment etc etc.

Just an idea
SEAJ

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 23-10-2011 11:09 ]

Any idea at all if the perpetrator is also a reader of this forum?

Hey Wander,

There is no way to know absolutely, but it's worth asking.  Maybe something gave him away as a 141 guy.  Or maybe Rose only advertises on 141.  None of it is perfect.  But if we knew with 80% certainty that he was on the board here then maybe this would be a tool to put some peer pressure on him.

I'd prefer that the bastard be caught and castrated, but barring that just stopping him from repeating the act would be beneficial.

Yeah - right!!!

I'll be waiting for the guy to post here that he is the guy!!  ..... and then apply Peer pressure!!!  LOL!

And Rose is a habitue of the Wanchai Bars.... and besides which, even if she had "advertised" her servidces on 141 - so WHAT??

LOL!

SEAJ

Listen Bro's..., I didnt start this thread with the intent to seek donations.  (Exceedingly moving, however, how many of you made the offer anyway).  I guess my intent was to get the word out - so you all can tell your regulars to be careful - and maybe have any agents or gals reading also be warned about it.  I hope the word has spread throughout the HK scene to be careful out there.

Her family is involved now - and with their input, plus some extra from me, we can cover this.  Yeah, the Sanitarium is likely the most expensive place she could have been brought - but considering the work that needs to be done on her eye and I'm glad she's there.

Give and take, right?  Rose has given me a lot (including my first-ever true bisexual girl-girl-guy experience!  WOW!).  It'll bite a bit, but I'll manage.

Thanks again....

I just looked through that Ziteng website that JckTheBack directed us to
http://www.ziteng.org.hk/info/info_e.html#1
And wow - I must say - quite impressive - especially as to the laws governing "the trade" in Hong KJOng.

Presuming that all the information is factual and have been researched prior to being posted up - I'd say that this website is one of the best "resource" on a lot of the questions that periodically crops up on our forum about the legalities of the trade.

Thanks Jck!

SEAJ

Sorry to hear about this wander,

Make sure she provides the mobile number of the guy to the police if she got it, even if the phone is just an unregistered sim card, the police can still get some location data from the phone companies depending on the seriousness of the crime.   Shouldn't they have had to register at the hotel?  He would have had to provide ID card or Passport no???

If you have a more detailed description of the guy I'd appreciate if you could post it so us Bros can see if anyone matching it is inside or hanging out around any walkups/bars

Honestly, the whole CCTV thing in walkups is already a concerning point for Bros who want to stay anon, so if this guy carries on it's going to get worse, tighter security and less privacy, so we should all do our best to try and stop this a**hole from ruining a good thing for the rest of us

Willing to help out too so count me in if you need any assistance

it needs to be stressed we do NOT know beyond doubt  the Bro(s) are Indian.


I agree and I was amazed by the total lack of interest from the Traffik staff.

[ Last edited by  TonyToro at 23-10-2011 17:21 ]

These WGs are always at risk when meeting up with strangers.
I can recall last July, i had a nursing student working part time as a PSP for the sake of sustaining her needs and studies.
I got in contact with her at an escort site in the Phil. Her alias is SANDARAPARK. No picture was posted so its quite a gamble meeting an unknown nurse.
Contacted her via SMS to check her availability and we agreed to meet in a fastfood chain called CHOWKING.
She got there first and i have the luxury of taking a peek at her (thinking that if she's not my type, then i will just give her a rejection fee and cancel the walk).
I saw a slim young lass in blouse wearing a bonnet and eyeglasses. Cant really see her face but her appearance is quite acceptable so i approached her, introduce myself then we checked into a motel (EUROTEL) thats located beside the fastfood chain.
We relaxed and chatted first inside the room and when i asked her why she's in disguise and doesnt post any pics on the escort site, she told me its becoz she's doin this PSP partime job in discreet.
She than relate to me her first experience as a PSP, he met up with a guy, check into a motel and after the guy was done. She was threaten by the guy and was told that he's an undercover policeman. The guy took her school ID, didnt pay her, and even took her celphone and some cash then left. She told me she was very afraid that time and wasnt able to resist and call the cops as she may be interrogated and many will know that she's a part time PSP (personal service provider).
Its certainly a dangerous world out their as many prey on the weak.

here's she in disguise: the only pics she allowed me to retain on my celphone. the other pics she deleted so i cant use it to blackmail her he he. . .
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[ Last edited by  DaBestHK at 23-10-2011 23:44 ]

Sad situation, and I really hope the guy is caught sooner rather than later. One of the many risks WG's take to get paid... no such thing as easy money.

Maybe a coincidence, but I had a session at one of the lee garden love hotels today... there were cops outside the entrance who seemed to be keeping an eye on things.

Dude...very sorry to hear about Rose. I find it disgusting any punter would threaten let alone beat upa woman who is providing a service to him. To me it smacks of a person who has no self esteem andis probably dominated in his real life...i.e. a complete loser.

I am Indian myself and I would never dream of hurting a working girl. However, if this dude who did beat up Rose turns out to be Indian I would feel ashamed as he is part of my race. Unfortunately I know enough Indians out there who treat other humans with no respect that I can believe that an Indian did this. It is a sad indictment of my race I'm afraid.

Wander...I hope that they can track this dude down. If there is any help you need from myself pleasefeel free to PM me and I would be more than happy to help. This truly is a disgraceful act and I hopethis mutha f***er gets outed. Maybe if he gets outed they can arrange a parade of him and all us brothers can go and lynch him! That should teach him not to beat on those weaker than him. Tosser!

Sorry about the vitriol but I am really upset this has happened.

I truly commend you - being Indian yoursef - that you've taken this attitude and stance.

But I must caution you that such "vitriol" (your words! LOL!)  as you had expressed is probably NOT useful for anybody and even could serve as a disservice to yourself and other Indians. Indeed, the perpetrator's nationality has NOT been definitely determined PLUS, even if he was an Indian, I'd rather think that he'd be the exception vs. the rule and that all nationalities/ races/religion etc each and ALL have its own share of misfits/weirdos/sickos etc.

Yes, definitely in order for us to discuss what nationality the Perp's is - but only as means to identifying the PARTICULAR INDIVIDUAL and not to be used for racial profiling etc.

And to be perfectly frank - I would think that a lot of us here (including myself) would have a hard time differentiating between an Indian, Pakistani, Sri Lankan - even some of the races from the Middle East and perhaps even Indonesia. I apologize for saying this - but the fact of the matter is that we in Hong Kong ARE just too used to the Generic term "Indian"  when referrig to races from South Asia.

Just IMHO

SEAJ

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 23-10-2011 19:12 ]

Agree completely.  I was reluctant at first to even mention the nationality that Rose told me - for this very reason.  A bad individual can come from any country, any race, any religion. This was an evil INDIVIDUAL who apparently came from India according to Rose.  But was Rose right when she said that?  Maybe not - maybe he was from somewhere else on the sub-continent, or the middle east, or elsewhere.  

So, Bros - DO NOT take this thread into a race war.  Rose deserves better than that.  I am going to be stern on this and will -K anyone who does go on generically bashing a race on this thread (and/or I'll ask a mod to delete your post).

Anyway, thanks again for the support you Bros have shown.

just my 2 cents...i've PMd with ethnic Indian bros on this board who are absolute gentlemen. not to mention the talented individuals from the subcontinent i've known socially or worked with. as wander has repeatedly said, there are twisted individuals from everywhere/anywhere...just glad they are few in number.

the important thing here is to try to CATCH this guy if possible, which is why MISinformation can be dangerous. the HKP need the best description they can get. if they can triangulate this guy somehow (and remember that sickos like this one have enemies and "frenemies"--sometimes LE gets anonymous calls...), they have a chance of finding him. we have a relatively safe society here in HK, and the HKP wants to keep it that way. so the more info gathered, the better.

in any case, let's direct positive thoughts towards Rose and her recovery.

JtB

That's the thing with having an illegal or a poorly monitored sex industry. In Australia something like this happens, the girl can go to the police and report this and the police wouldn't hold anything against her. Hitting a woman is a very serious offence in Australia and I believe it should be. This is one reason why prostitution should be completely legalized. Sex is legal, selling a service is legal, why isn't selling sex as a service legal. Something like this shouldn't happen!! It saddens me and my heart goes out to the girl and her family. Imagine how angry her brother would be and how sad her parents would be.

Not quite long ago, I heard a scream at a brothel in Australia and I am quite friendly with the brothel owner and he told me some dude was rough with the WG and bit her and when the guy told him f*** off the guy hit her. Next thing you know girl hits buzzer, brothel owner and reception comes in and restraints the guy. They girl called police even and the guy got an assault charge. I wanted to go out and have a look but the WG in the room told me she didn't want to be left alone so I had like an extra long 2 hour session. I believe the guy in this case was Indian also, after this all the k-girls at the shop stopped serving Indians... I thought this was really unfair and how one jerk ruined it for a lot of people. I actually have a few Indian and Bangladesh mates, they are quite smart and actually really nice people. It is just the few that ruin their image in Australia.

Good on you Wander for being such a great bro and helping out the girl!!

Reading about this incident... my question is do the girls or the agents have any mechanisms that can
prevent something like that from happening again?

I've been to HGs a few times in HK, and while being serviced, I was thinking ( not actually planning on it )
" Wow, I [ or other guys ] could totally just run off after the deed and not pay her. I could easily
run out of the room and sprint down a few stairs and take the elevator or something. "
But being a honest fellow and like any other self-respecting guy, I always pay and tip.

Of course, incidents like girls being beaten or murdered don't happen every single day,
but it is truly heartbreaking to hear stories like this. WGs are a service, not a right to be claimed by
some asshole.

The girls cannot defend themselves nor can they call someone for help in case of an emergency.
So how can they protect themselves?

The dumb-ass Hong Kong laws forbidding anyone from profiting off a prostitute (such as a security person for the floor, a landlord, a roomate (!! Shite, a hooker cant have a roomate!!!), a legit agent that screen clients, etc.) is the cause of much of the dangers they live in.  Because of these laws they must work solo and THAT invites trouble.  Plus, if being an agent (for example) was legal imagine how much the rate they charge the gals would fall??  The girls would keep far more of their earnings because the supply of agents would jump.  

Anyway, I'm preaching to the choir here.  

I saw a regular today...  I mentioned what happened to Rose, and while she was very saddened by it, she wasnt shocked - she went on to describe 2 or 3 spooky episodes she's had (or a freind had) in the last year.  She says 90% of the guys she's seen have been just fine --- no problems at all.  But it only takes that 1 bad session to change her life.  

Anyway --- if LE does catch this guy I bet we'll hear nothing about it.  The city seems to be awfully good and hiding it's dark side.  Almost like the City, the Police, and the Press have made a pact.