Subject: Might have STD
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Reply #19 Dasani's post

I am confused bro..  your original post said "I went to the Yau Ma Tei health clinic and was diagnosed with Chlamydia and was given antibiotics."
but now you say "They said could be herpes but not 100%. I wont know until 3 weeks, but until then, not sure what I should do."  

Which is it? Although with similarities, they are 2 different STD's.

As for telling your SO, do you live with her??  If not and you don't want her to find out, take the antibiotics and relax for 10 days until it heals and just don't let her see or touch LB directly in anyway during this time.  If live in may be a bit harder but yeah it still can be done.
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After reading this i'm a bit worried.. gonna go get a hpv and hep b shot on monday.
BBBJ and rimming have low chances of transmitting syphilis it is quite possible that the WG had a herpes sore on her mouth and that is what infected you. Chlamydia is curable with antibiotics so not too much to worry about.
It herpes your in a bit of a pickle...
I just hope it isnt herpes brother, although it isnt dangerous or life threatening, the fact that it stays for life is bad enough for anyone... Hope all goes well with the test results brother!!
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Reply #19 Dasani's post

Of course you want to protect your SO and also your relationship and so must abstain for 3 weeks.  Can you get away with this somehow?

If you seldom have sex anyway, happy days.

If not create a row, better if you instigate something that you know she'll escalate and then you can react to by moving out for 3 weeks.  (Or an instant business trip without any row if you are the boss and so can arrange it.)  If you get the all clear happy days.  Blame workstress back to happy families and fewer naughty BBBJs.

If not in the clear...well this is hard to dodge if the treatment plan it very long...

Ballsy move, hard to pull off, but gotta be better than coming clean.

This is all if it's syph which according to my std doc 20% of PRC have He also says that it can go undetected for as long as 6 months and within that time you can still infect your partner.  I don't know how likely this is but it's still pretty scary.

If it's just HPV who gives a shit.  Everyone has it, it can stay dormant for years and flare up.  Having an outbreak doesn't mean a thing.  Maybe even tell her about it ask if she had it before and maybe gave it to you.  Then officially go to the doc, "find out" it can be dormant go back and apologize.

(Small risk her of her coming clean about her own naughtyness )

Go luck, in a slightly similar circumstance I too thought of coming clean, if nothing else it takes away the worry.  But I was given the same excellent advise as above, DENY DENY DENY.  Glad I took it.  It was a horrendous ride but all was well in the end.

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Reply #19 Dasani's post

Just skimming a couple of the responses and I was thinking about some of wander's responses. It seems that lying to or not telling your wife (but telling the WG) are the suggestions because telling your wife could end the relationship. That is probably quite true. However, I was wondering is it worth your relationship surviving if you are a) sleeping regularly with WGs and/or b) are willing to lie to her about a health problem. Just a thought.
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Reply #24 ramont's post

I gotta ask.  How old are you?  How many kids do you have that would be thrown into  turmoil due to a moment of ill-advised honesty?

We fuck other women. Yes.  Does it mean we don't love our sons or daughters?  No.  Would such knowledge, if known by a spouse,  cause possible irreparable harm?  Yes.   

Is this rocket science?

No.  Be a man, shut the fuck up, and live to die another day.

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Post at 16-10-2011 06:53  Profile P.M. 
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I told my SO when I had a condom break during a drunken session (told the story in another post). Took my responsabilities and told her cause I didnt want her to get something because I cant refrain from putting my dick in every wg I see!
She gave me shit, told her she could leave and had all reasons to, I could understand I think she did hesitate, but she was way smarter than me and decided to stay.
If I had to do it (telling her) I would again as I cant imagine my SO being infected because of my carelessness.
Still its a very personal choice, a fellow monger of mine never told his SO and pretended he wad tired/ busy for a few weeks. Not sure the SO didnt guess though, they are not stupid....
But at the end of the day, if you dont want trouble dont tell her, you'll get in a world of pain if you do like me and even if she is really forgiving (like my SO) you'll always have it thrown in ur face once in a while. If she's not forgiving, you'll end yourcouple life there. For a punt, not sure its worth it (and I risked HIV, you only risk minor STDs).

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Post at 16-10-2011 18:41  Profile P.M. 
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IMO there is nothing wrong with not telling the SO as long as the SO is in no risk of getting what you may have.......
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Post at 16-10-2011 19:22  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #1 Dasani's post

Hope all is well bro!  do you have address or number of the Yau Ma Tei Clinic?
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Post at 17-10-2011 15:30  Profile P.M. 
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Never admit!  Deny deny deny.  I have a golden rule and that is a Z pack each and everytime I come into contact with bodily fluids.  These are easy to get from your Dr. ahead of time and it will prevent any problems from the STD's that are curable from antibiotics.  

If it is herpes, live with it.  If it comes up, tell her you have had it since high school.

Telling her will end everything.  I had a friend get a massage from a girl and went home to later find some type of rash.  He immediately freaks out and tells his wife like a dumb ass.  She ends up leaving him.  He then goes to Dr. and finds out that is was a harmless rash caused by the oil that was used and it was NOT an STD.  What a dumbshit!!!!

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I just wiki'd z pack and it does it actually work?
For those that don't know what it is

Azithromycin is used to treat many different infections including acute otitis media, streptococcal pharyngitis, gastrointestinal infections such as traveler's diarrhea, respiratory tract infections such as pneumonia, cellulitis, babesiosis, bartonella, chancroid, chlamydia, cholera, donovanosis, leptospirosis, lyme disease, malaria, mycobacterium avium complex, neisseria meningitis, pelvic inflammatory disease, pertussis, scrub typhus, syphilis, toxoplasmosis, and salmonella.[4] It is used to prevent bacterial endocarditis and some sexually transmitted illnesses post sexual assault.[4]

it only prevents bacterial sti that can be treated using antiobiotics pretty much. But what difference is it to just taking some anti biotics?
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if people start using medication without consulting doctors the meds become less effective because the bacteria become more resistant...........
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by Dasani at 15-10-2011 08:24

Well I went to get testes the first time, and the only symptoms that I was showing was having a burning unrination. The next day I noticed a blister on my penis and my anus was also very sore. I took ...

Any time there is blistering in the genital area then herpes is a possibility. Make sure that you get an IGG blood test at 12 weeks after your exposure. And, because your contact was receptive oral, if it is herpes then it will almost assuredly be HSV-1. HSV-1 does not recur often, is very difficult to transmit during sex and anyone who is already positive for HSV-1 (as in, gets cold sores) will be almost completely immune.

Good luck.
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Reply #30 robotto's post

Z-Pac (Azithromycin) won't work if you take it in the standard 5 day course.  If you read the fine print of the package insert you'll see that for bacterial STIs you have to take 1 or 2 grams all at once, however it depends on what you've got and where in the world you got it.  Doxycycline is also good but is typically a longer course.  Anyway, consult a doc first on diagnosis and dosing.

And STIs live just as well in the mouth as in the pussy.  You're unlikely to get syph orally only if the girl never gives a BJ.  If the girl you're going to is famous for her BBBJTC then if she sucks off a guy who has syph she's going to get it in her mouth.  Same for gonorrhea.

And HSV-1 (oral herpes) USED to be just what you got from her mouth.  With all the 69 going on, HSV-1 (oral) and HSV-2 (genital) have swapped ends and you can just as easily get HSV-2 from the mouth of a BBBJ queen as you can from the infected ass of a meth smoking tranny behind the dumpster (was that over the top? )

Water BJ?  What's the theory there?  Dilution is protecting you?  Interesting idea.  A year ago I read a research article and posted the link here somewhere about in vitro studies indicating that saliva was very inhospitable to HIV, but that semen was something of a stimulant to the bugger.  Helped to explain why BBBJs are very safe for women (from an HIV perspective) but unprotected vaginal sex with a creampie finish are not (too graphic again? )

It sounds like our poor OP got tagged with a chancre or herpes.  Bummer.  Most clinics won't test for herpes on the first panel simply because it's incurable.  There are antivirals one can take to lessen the initial symptoms (which tend to be severe the first time).  Hopefully our man Dasani will weigh in and let us know how things went.

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Bro Dasani,
Any update on your situation? How are things on your end looking?

Good luck and hopefully you're ok.

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QUOTE:
Originally posted by TheButler at 22-10-2011 01:14
And HSV-1 (oral herpes) USED to be just what you got from her mouth.  With all the 69 going on, HSV-1 (oral) and HSV-2 (genital) have swapped ends and you can just as easily get HSV-2 from the mouth of a BBBJ queen as you can from the infected ass of a meth smoking tranny behind the dumpster (was that over the top?  )

Just to clarify (even though it's a depressing topic), it is not just as easy to get HSV-2 from the mouth of a BBBJ queen as it is to get HSV-1. Oral HSV-2 remains the least likely herpes manifestation. It almost never recurs and only sheds asymptomatically about 2 days out of the year. If you've ever had a cold sore (HSV-1) then there is virtually no herpes risk from receptive oral sex. Conversely, there is a real, but low possibility of acquiring genital HSV-2 even with condom protected sex. It's probably safe to count on about 30 to 50% of WGs being HSV-2 positive even if they show no symptoms. I've read some studies on Chinese WGs where 2/3 of them were HSV-2 positive. The really tricky thing is that most people with HSV-2 do not notice (or pass off) any symptoms.

From least to most risk it would probably go like this:

Receptive handjob (little or no risk, particularly without an obvious whitlow);
Fingering (little risk, particularly without any abrasions on the fingers);
CBJ (very low risk);
DATY (risk of HSV-1 without previous immunity (cold sores); very low risk for HSV-2);
BBBJ (moderate risk of HSV-1 without previous immunity (cold sores); very low risk for HSV-2);
Protected sex (very low risk for HSV-1; moderate risk for HSV-2); and
Unprotected sex (low risk for HSV-1; medium risk for HSV-2 (probably no more than 1/500 to 1/1000 without an outbreak).

And yes, I wish that I didn't know all of this stuff. I recently had a clean STD panel (which included herpes - they usually don't) and my "fresh start" is really ruining my HK mongering plans.

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QUOTE:
Originally posted by wander at 15-10-2011 19:49
We fuck other women... Be a man, shut the fuck up, and live to die another day.

I'm afraid I have to agree with this comment. 100% agree...

sure we would all love to lift the "burden of guilt" etc... blame the circumstances. F*ck that... providing our SO is not at risk, suck it up and be a man. If your SO is at risk, then you need to find a way to deal with it that does not include "sorry honey but I think i gave you an STD because I have been screwing WGs".

We need to consider our families, especially kids, and other Bros especially punting buddies who could get dragged down if we don't keep our mouth shut.

Ok so maybe it sounds hypocritical saying "be a man and say nothing", after all... we are all cheaters... however the punting part is a path we have all chosen for whatever reason so it's a given. We do it. Once you accept that, what remains is how many "other" people we want to put at risk / hurt. You come clean and every mate you ever had a drink with on a Friday night after work will get grief... whether he's a punter or not!!!

Protect our SO for sure... But find another way that doesn't including spilling all the beans and potentially hurting family, friends and punting buddies.

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Reply #36 TonyToro's post

I think another way of saying that is, "it's your guilt, deal with it, don't dump it on your SO to clear your conscience."  Guys think they're making it better when they do that but all they end up doing is adding to someone else's upset.




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you have to lie/deny.  whatever it takes.  if you admit best case scenario is that she will begrudgingly stay with you but you would have the ball and chain on for the REST OF YOUR LIFE.  can you imaging staying with the woman if you cannot punt no more?   For me it hellz no.
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Bro Dasani--truly hoping you get some good news and you're able to share that with the group.  

As for telling your SO--I would recommend that you DO NOT tell her.  Of course do not put her at risk for contracting an STI but telling her is just a bad idea.  

When something like this happens, it's frightening and it's depressing. But, your desire to tell your SO is really a desire to seek absolution (forgiveness) to clear your own conscience.  In reality, all you'll accomplish is to shatter your SO's world.  Even if she forgives you, she'll never look at you the same way again and she may not feel the same way about you again.  You won't be achieving your goal, you'll just bring pain.

I say this with deep sympathy for you.  I have been where you are as have nearly everyone on this forum (whether for a false alarm or not).

All the best an keep us posted on your health (mental and physical).

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I am in Singapore right now for a business trip. Will update you guys as soon as I get the results when I come back.
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