wow, i think from this story it is clear she was full of lies. Or perhaps, she wanted you and she felt that you were not serious with her.

But, the chance is, she could say that to you and if you accepted her she could do the same with other guys.

THis kinda girls, count yourself lucky to find out and be able to stay clear.

Brother Wander, do you have any kids yet? If you do, think of them too and spend more time with them. May be that will keep you thinking about punting and take a break for a while. Just a thought!!!

Yes I do.  And yes, you're right Bro.  
I just spent a great day at IMAX with them.  Indeed it helps more than anything. They are really great kids - I am a lucky man!

I want to say "thanks" to all you Bros!  I expected two reactions - flamed for being an ass, and jokes for being an ass.  Instead I read thoughtful advice and support.  Cool.

Okay - enough of that!  Onward........

Silly...  can't seem to go 24 hours.

Since I pushed her away again I've been thinking of her non-stop and, dammit... I just contacted her.    Why she agreed to see me I don't know - I have caused her so many tears.  But she's is still pleading for my love.  And I want to give it.....    I am also becoming concerned that she might cancel her wedding - christ, that would be evil of me if I fuck her whole life up 'cause I have a little infatuation going on!!  Anyway, her wedding is very very soon...  this should change things.

Damn... I'm so bloody addicted to her.  Titanic-scale sunk.  

I have a roldex full of girls.  Sexy, hot, affectionate girls I can ring up.  But I want this one!  I went nuts punting last week to let myself move on - had great times too - but it didn't matter.  Had a really great weekend with the SO - but it didn't matter.  As soon as I let my mind wander it goes straight to her and my gut seizes up with the realization that I told her goodbye - that she's gone.  

So I contacted her....  and I apologized and told her I'm insane.  Which I clearly am.  And she accepted it and immediately we started making plans to meet later this week.  Shit, shit, shit.  I just can't walk away....

Fatal car crash in progress!

You need to take the next flight of HK to a place that is at least 12 time zones away and stay there for at least 6 weeks as you undergo cold turkey withdrawal. Why 6 weeks because I read you have to something for at least 6 weeks before it becomes a habit/second nature... Ideally you pick a place that has no internet/very slow internet connections.

I wish I could.  Then again, I got a hunch that after 2 days I would be buying her a ticket to join me!  

I need solitary confinement.  Non-voluntary Rehab.  

Clearly I am being a huge ass.  Can't help it - she's like oxygen to me at the moment.  (As corny as that sounds!!).  Man, in 12 months I'll be reading these posts (I hope) and shrinking in embarrassment about it all.   Damn fool!

PS:  I am going to see Mai:  maybe one heavenly-beauty will make me forget the other one!!

[ Last edited by  wander at 21-2-2011 17:28 ]

Bro, if you are going to see her, at least take some pictures of her, and let us see what your infatuation is!

Naw Bro, I couldn't do that to her - for all I know her SO is a 141 member!  

Man, I think something is in the water in HK!  I just saw Mai.  Spent the afternoon with her.  Lord she's a beauty!  Half-way through she starts crying.  I'm like "what's wrong, baby, am I hurting you?". She's says "No, I have to go next week, and I love you!".  "I'm sorry, but I love you".  

Jesus, what's going on?  I aint that handsome!!  Anyway, maybe just what I needed!! I am feeling rather full-of-myself just now!

[ Last edited by  wander at 21-2-2011 17:30 ]

Plain and simple you have to cut off communication and meetings.
She is with him. You have an SO.
Keeping in touch will only keep things messy.

I KNOW Bro, I just can't do it!!  She's in my head!!!!  

I am now a few hours past my Mai moment (holy shit! - more than enough GFE for me!!!!) And yet already back to her.

Ya know....  The more I think, the more I realize.......  Is she just the one I CAN'T have?  Is that it??  Is that what is causing all this?  Am I that simple?

And then I remember our times together (many) and I go "No, waaay beyonf that!!".

But I don't know.  My fatal attraction for her started when I learned she had a boyfriend I think.

Man, if true... That's sad.

Bro Wander, I feel your pain man , i really do! I am going through this right now, one min i am ok i can get her out of my bloody mind and the next fuck I just have to call her to see if shes ok or in town, she was away for 2 weeks during the CNY, great i thought! and infact it was good cos then i can spend the time with the GF (she is the love of my life!) yes i am a scumbag, only thinking of my personal satisfaction, those 2 weeks went pretty quickly , then last week out of the blue she rang me but I didnt want to pick up the phone (i didnt pick it up) , then she txted me saying she is on her way back from china and will call me when she is back in work (massage) again ignored her but couldnt resist after 2 days of her being back lol..then arranged  yesterday for massage, happy to see her, we hugged and chatted for awhile but non of that lets "fuck cos we have not seen each other for a while kinda of scenario lol"...I think we are both at that stage where we just like to chat away  rather than the sex, she bought me some expensive tea while on her holiday which was nice! so now i am back to stage 1 again, trying to juggle work, her on my mind but knowing it can never work but for now, this very minute, why not! life is short, probably shorter if my GF knows about this...time to listen to some depressing music now "Joni Mitchell - Both Sides Now" and cry myself silly!.....Wander take it easy, life is never fair just go with the flow!....

Another Bro down for the count...  Man, got to get our shit together!

Good luck with your situation.

yep, either cut off our willies or piss off out of HK but i bet u have every bird in every country lol....

just be firm when you reject her.

dude, he has tried it all but its like a frigging drug and its hard to come down from it

A question, Bro.  I can't tell from your story - but did you ever see her outside her workplace?  Maybe an over-nighter, or a bar or dinner?

I should have had a clue I was sinking rather deeply when I flew to Manila to spend the weekend with her.  Hmm, 100 chicks in Escape throwing their bodies at you and you're flying out of town to see a girl?  WTF!?!

Only twice for dinner, mainly spend a couple of hours in her joint, yeah i like her and i hope she likes me but i guess nothing more but she has open her heart about her life which is good, maybe she is looking for a shoulder to lean on, i dunno...

Wow, I just found out how deeply in fantasy-land I was heading.

A mutual friend (just freinds.., but I helped her with a problem and she's become close ever sinnce) just came into town.  We met for a quick lunch.  She knows I've seen Joann a lot and she knows Joann very well.  I decided to pick her brain.  She knew I had "fun" with Joann, but when she learned I was sinking she set me straight.

I was right that I am one of several current guys she swears her undying devotion too - in addition to her fiance (she is getting married today, BTW, that's why my freind came to town).  The poor guy - all this time she was still seeing me, and I learned of at least two others, and still making plans to meet me on her weddiing's eve!  At least two of the guys would send her cash while she was back home - one tried to get her a Visa to his home country but when he didnt have the funds to sponsor her she immediately bolted.  Bye bye.  Another man a year or more ago got a divorce from his then-wife to be with her.  But he wasn't in a rush to marry again - so he delayed putting a ring on her finger.  She bolted.  Bye Bye.

The current fiance has only know her for a little while.  Hell, I've seen her more.  She told him to marry her immediately or goodbye.  This one said yes.   

And finally, she's making a plan to hit the WanChai bars with my friend next time her (new) husband leaves town.

Now, I am a slut too - so the multiple partners does not bother me.  What bothers me are the immense string of lies to hook, snare, and de-money people.

My instincts where right all along, but somehow I still got snared!  An absolute MASTER actresss!!  Astonishing how convincing she is!  Combine that with her oustanding looks and sexual energy and she's a walking man-trap.  

But this knowldge really helps me walk away.

My friend (a WanChai girl herself) ended by saying - NEVER trust a WanChai girl!  Have fun..., nothing more.

Adding a PS:  I can't quite figure out why she didn't tag me for cash?  I was not a good visa/marriage target given I have an SO+kids, so cash would have been the best bet for her - like she did with the other two (that I know of).  3 years we played, and engaged now tooi!  Hmm, just a slut like me maybe?  If so, I get it, but why the lies about it?  I was always honest about my punting.

[ Last edited by  wander at 23-2-2011 12:44 ]

Brother, if you can't trust any Wan Chai girl, how do you know if your mutual friend is telling the truth? If the story is true, then it is hard to believe that Joann is fu*king other guys days before her wedding, and how stupid can the man she is marrying be? He must be blind!! Does he suspect that she might be shacking up with other man? Well, I don't think the marriage will last long - until he is milked dry or he finds out, whichever comes first.

[ Last edited by  moming at 23-2-2011 14:43 ]

I know Bro.  It is a valid point.  But two data-points are irrefutable.  I know she's getting married today (on his Facebook page - it's wide open!) And I know she's been screwing me.  I don't need any further outside info to validate either point.  It is simply true.  

Given that, and given my previous suspicions before ever speaking with our mutual friend I have little reason to doubt the character portrait of her even if some details are inaccurate.

She's bad news.  She will break his heart - it is obvious.  She is just not careful enough.  I learned from my friend that she, Joann's cousin, and others know about me.  She's bragging to friends and family about her conquests!  (Though I am proud to say Joann apparently described me as the best lover she's ever had!! Haha.  Feel good about that!).  That statement also prompted me to have sex with my friend today (her choice).

A mistake.  We tried years ago and don't "click" for some reason.  Did it again just now (it was either a sympathy fuck, or Joann's statement made her need to try me again), anyway there is just no sexual interest between us.  Poor her.  Had fun still and we laughed it off, but funny how some people are just not sexually compatible.  She's hot enough, but just does nothing for me sexually - but does everything for me as a friend.

Anyway, It is all helping me exit the situation.  Which I must do!

[ Last edited by  wander at 23-2-2011 18:03 ]