I agree with timewaster, especially the thing with NYC is that they care about high fashion. whereas in HK you do but it doesn't have to be the name brand suits that you must wear in season.

HK is the most materialistic place in the world and the more money you have the less real friends you've got. Everyone you meet at work is after you directly or indirectly to enrich themselves, at least this is true in the money business. I have met people in other circles that seem nice but at the end once they smell money, they react to you differently. It's different of course if you don't have any money to start with but money is like a magnet in HK and it corrupts instantly.

For atmando56, if you're making money in HK and managing to save some of it, why not stay put in HK. There are more opportunities in HK than North America at the moment.  If your career is not going anywhere and you're spending more than you make then it's time go back. Cost of living in HK is high especially if you want to enjoy the night life and some regular mongering.

[ Last edited by  geoduck at 20-8-2010 17:32 ]

12uronin paints a pretty bleak picture of the state of P4P in NYC.

http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... &extra=page%3D1

If whoring is an important part of your life and you must live in the U.S., then I would think it would be best to live close to the mexico border so you can pop across for the regular dirty weekend.

Im in the middle of the US. The going rate here is $250-400US per hour, but most fuck like pornstars. They are usually older then what you see in HK also.

tks for the link. that was a good read.  now some here can understand why NYers here has little to no stories worth sharing here.


this post doesn't make sense

[ Last edited by  sirtiger at 20-8-2010 09:50 ]

Your decision should not be based on mongering.As has been said before it is a career decision and this should be deciding factor. also what comes into play is a girlfriend/wife/kids if you have any and where you would like them to grow up one day.
Mongering is a nice side effect but it should not be the main reason. You can always come back to HK or go wherever you like to monger if you have enough cash

I need to disagree here. If there is a hobby or interest of yours that will enrich your life, say skiing, or hiking, or sailing, or whatever, then living without it will be painful.
Life is not all about the bigger $$$. Esp. if you have a very good job already, you can be happy with what you have. If you're gonna jump, make it a big jump.
You can always make back the $$$ after you've squandered it, but you can't use it to buy back your youth.

You are so right, No amount of $$$ can buy you time. Even if you live to 100 life is short and you can never get the time back. Thanks for your advice

nice reply. I want to know should people choose a job that they want to do or choose a job that can help you to make quick money in few years than you can retire... or good enough for you to choose other things you want to do - or i mean financially independent.

correct me if i'm wrong, but I don't think there is a (legal) job where you can make quick money and retire in a FEW years.
My definition of "a few" is 2 or 3. "Financially independent" all depends on your living standards. Some people are happy with a 1-bedroom apartment and eating takeout while others won't stop until they buy their seaside mansion. All I can say is that money is addictive, and i know plenty of people who hate their jobs but just don't have the balls to walk away from the easy money. A Career change is tough and scary too.

I think that if you do something you love, then you will naturally rise in the ranks, and maybe even go on to become a superstar in that industry. What can be better than making good money and looking forward to stepping into your office every day?

Here's the best quote about getting rich I heard from a wise old man:
"come on..... if it was so easy then everybody would be doing it!"

thanks. i am in the middle of thinking to make a career change or not. so i agree with you that it is tough and scary because you will move to something totally you don't know and not sure..... i think maybe getting old make people don't want to change.

getting old should be one of the reasons to change. Life is too short and you don't want to waste your time. We all need to find a good balance of Job, Work and Family. There is no more Job loyality in this world. Find something you will enjoy and give it a shot. Don't put off until tomorrow what you can do today. Today is the first day of the rest of your life.

If I remember correctly from reading one of your posts, you have a SO which means you do have access to some sex on the tap.  

If you did not have a SO, I would almost recommend you stay in HK.  To me, the attraction of all these wgs in HK is the easy, legal, and very affordable access to sex.  This is especially so if I didn't have a SO.  

I remember I spent over a month in NYC between jobs visiting relatives.  I was single back then.   Aiyah...I was going crazy for sex but because I didn't have enough funds, I couldn't afford to go clubbing to search for pussy plus I didn't want to take the chance of getting caught in a raid at any AMP.  Upon return to HK, I felt so relaxed even though I didn't quite run straight to visit a wg immediately.  It was just the feeling of knowing that there was a psychological escape valve (cheap, legal wgs) always available 24/7 that kept me calm.  

So if you are taking your SO with you, then go for the opportunities that would be better for your career and your future life with your SO.  


Edited: forgot to add something.

[ Last edited by  doghead at 26-8-2010 19:34 ]

yes i agree there is no more job loyalty... but however when i go to job interview, people do expect that you have job loyalty.....

I live in Las Vegas and have been living in the U.S. since I was an infant.

Do NOT expect quality mongering in America.  It either doesn't exist, or the price is so high, 99% of people can't afford it.  That's true even in Las Vegas where it's supposed to be "Sin City".  

America is a fantastic place to make money though.  I don't mean to be racist, but there are many Americans who are dumb and lazy.  That makes it easy for you to outcompete them for jobs or in business.  I don't know any Hong Kongers in America who are "poor".

Like others have said, you should make money in America and monger in Asia during your vacations.  If on-the-spot mongering is verryyyyy important to you, you probably shouldn't go the U.S.


Unfortuantely, tha'ts true only if you love a profession that makes money.  Many people earn a PhD in English because they love the subject.  But they can't find a decent job when they graduate.

That is true. The young WGs in the US are usually out for $$$ because they want to shower themselves in name brand (sounds familiar?). It really depends on the WG. Some do stay in the business because they enjoy it. This kind of WG usually have enough regulars to keep them financially secured. Hence they don't have to keep posting ads daily or to travel around soliciting business somewhere else. Some are MILFs and got into the hobby to catch up with bills. This kind of WG usually quit after they catch up with their bills. Some have pimps and so on.

For a quality hour session with a decent babe, it usually costs at least US$250. And it's not uncommon that it goes up to US$400 per hour or even more. If you got game, you may negotiate them to a lower rate when you become a regular or so. If you are really a pimp or baller, you can get it for free. If you have that much game, you probably don't have to resort to WG for sex.

Back to the OP, it depends on what part of the US you are moving to. HK is about the size of LA county. Lifestyle doesn't vary that much from NT to the island. I mean it takes about an hour to get to the city. Lifestyle is a lot different in Vegas than in Alabama or Arkansas. Working environment depends on  your company's culture. I would suggest you to research on different aspects of living and working in HK and in the US. You can make a decision after you see the whole picture. Another important fact to consider is retirement plan. Good luck.

Quote from post 35
America is a fantastic place to make money though.  I don't mean to be racist, but there are many Americans who are dumb and lazy.  That makes it easy for you to outcompete them for jobs or in business.  I don't know any Hong Kongers in America who are "poor".



I have to dissagree with the above Furry
It is much easier to make a lot of money in HK with the tax system. You can invest in stocks or property at the right time and make a fortune. I cant because of the US tax's but my wife just sold an apartment and made 50% profit in 2 years. Of course you need some money to make money.

[ Last edited by  catmando56 at 1-9-2010 08:42 ]

I really disagree with this comment & don't know even where to begin.  Being in nyc with one of the largest asian population, I know & met HKers who are "poor".  Compared to other races in poverty, its less but it exist.

Its true HKer pay less income tax oppose to US but they pay less in general.  I have some personal friends who took pay cuts to move back to HK with same jobs.  Hard to compare unless you compare apples to apples.

Sirtiger

if i understand correctly I agree with you. I edited my post as it was a little confussing the first sentence was a quote from #35 furryfriend in which I disagreed with his comment. Sorry for the confusion

i say go where you feel your heart is the happiest. i live in the US and i am content living in portland, oregon. i am used to the pace here and lifestyle.
In HK the it's a faster pace and you can get anything you want. If you have decent job in HK and can fill you with happiness in with the beautiful wg's
why would trade that to come to US? Unless you have offer for a higher paying job and a decent living. I would go can that. You can find pussy anyway
but will you be content with what you have? If i have all the money in the world and have beautiful wgs that i can fuck everyday. I would choose Hong Kong
over the USA anyday.