tbh i think its disgusting how many wives break their commitment to 'love and to hold' through 'sickness and health' by turning into nagging self-centred bitches who take for granted and neglect the man who's given up so much to try to make them happy ...

To add to that, women also cheat! Who knows what she is doing behind your back? I quote a credible survey, "14 percent of women admit to cheating after marriage. source: http://www.menstuff.org/issues/byissue/infidelitystats.html

dartagnan whats your problem? im just saying its disloyal doing that behind your wifes back. maybe you just dont want to admit the truth that you let your wife down? lol

yeah im not just pinpointing us punters.

Well if you think my answer is of such a doctorally high calibre, then tell that to the   who gave me -Karma for it.  Just incase it was meant to be +karma, please change it.

It is true that if you want to continue satisfying your wife while seeing WGs, then there has to be an amount of satisfaction left in your balls to give to her. So, that's what I meant about the frequency of punting. I dont know how that is talking shit when most people would agree.

Bro Dartdragon, what you said is very true. But it is the fact that you are encouraging him to satisfy his own "needs". I think that is the problem that bro Dreamer08 is referring to when he speaks of being disloyal. This is because it's true that your "needs" may lead to disloyalty. Ofcourse, bro sunstory1975 needs to map the trade-off between disloyalty and his WG lust. If you can pin-point a co-ordinate on that chart, then I believe you have found your answer bro. Good luck for making the best decision, bro.

Everyone has their own moral standards, I'm certainly not on to judge others.

End of the day, the OP wants to do the so called right thing, being the loyal loving husband and father. He also has the very basic physical need to get his rocks off. Only he can decide if punting be it ML or HJ/BJ is worth the risk/reward. If he decides to not punt, he won't feel this guilt, but will he be miserable? Being miserable can also destroy a relationship as much as anything else.

I'm married with children and till punt regularly. I frankly don't see anything wrong with it. People may think I'm a prick, but I certainly don't feel that way.  My wife is happy with me. I provide well for her and her family. I'm attentive to my adorable children and they are happy and well-adjusted (so far). Bottom line is I have a happy family and punting hasn't hurt one bit. If you are stupid enough to develop any kind of relationship with a girl that goes beyond the session, then it's a different matter.

My suggestion is if you feel guilty, treat your wife and children even better than you already do. Their happy faces will ease all guilt.

Just my 2 cents.

and my 2 cents =))

In Russia we have our local very old proverb ( ? ). I'm not sure that can provide absolutely right translation, but ..
" Good sex on the left side ( we have special local word on it ) - becames marriage more strong".

I'm taking issue with the way you're dishing out boringly prescriptive advice to someone who clearly knows much more about marriage and sex than you do!  I'm also taking issue with you dishing out moralistic advice in a forum that's clearly dedicated to sex with multiple partners ... if you stir a hornets' nest you should be wearing good protection otherwise expect to be stung

Have you ever been married?  
Have you been married more than 7 years?  

If not there's no way you can possibly be qualified to have an opinion what the OP should or should not do.  I also do not presume to give him specific advice what he should do, I'm not telling him he should punt, and not telling him he shouldn't.  

What I am pointing out is the way that individual habits and personal needs take precedence over any particular moral code.  Since he is feeling anguish about the choices he's made (specifically his choice to avoid having sex with hookers) that's a good sign he needs to carry out further reflection to figure out (for himself) what is actually important to him, as distinct from what 'should be' important to him.

Complete bullshit Fifa.

He is satisfying his own "needs" just fine without any encouragement from me.  

I'm encouraging him to FIND OUT what his needs actually are: does he need to stand by his commitment to his pregnant wife?  does he need sex?  does he need to find a way to have both?
I'm also reflecting an underlying trend that he himself stated.  

JUST WHAT EXPERIENCE, IF ANY, DO YOU HAVE IN THE MATTER OF COMMITTED RELATIONSHIPS???  

If, as it seems, you have none, just STFU.

And share his facebook with us!!


Dart and All,

Fifa is a Tool......dont let him get into your system.
Fucking ignore him.

He is not gonna absorb anything we said.


I will start to delete reply everytime he post nonsense, save the annoyance.

Total agreement.

Who does he think he is to be judging others?

SEAJ

nothing wrong to be entitled to my own opinions? idiot.

OPINION- yes, OK.

Calling names, judging others NOT OK

Please read the getting started section before you continue.

Take it for what its worth - but you probably do not want to keep on going on this pathway in this forum.

SEAJ

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Dreamer08 - why are you registered in this forum under different names ?

do you guys not understand english or something? if you read carefully at my posts where do i judge anyone? i am stating my personal opinions. if you got a problem well thats your problem. freedom of speech. my multiple accounts are because i forgot my password to the other ones.

The above is what you stated.  

You are judging us to be disgusting.

Plain enough English for you.....Dude?

Wassamatter with you??   You cain't even stand behind your own words.

SEAJ

are you that serious lol

thats my opinion

cant you read the words 'i think....'

geez

What - you think adding an "LOL" to your post is going to let you off the hook?

For anybody to be able to THINK anything about anybody, he must already have judged and formed an impression.  

I guess you are not capable of thinking the usual way.  Idiots are like that.

SEAJ