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Reply #20 twiceAweek's post

Would anyone know which 141 girl will not get a visit from the cops?
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Just when people were saying that I had a missed opportunity with the SW's I was seeing on Nathan last week, this shit happens.  You see bros?  You never fucking know, especially for me where I had a meeting in China the next day that I was obligated to attend.  Last thing I needed was to be held by cops for a day and miss my boat into China.
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Reply #19 atomic3d's post

Thanks for the quotes. Though age of consent in HK is 16, a girl that age would presumably not be able to operate as a 141 until she's 18, since I assume a 16-yr-old cannot own a business? Anyone know if I'm right or wrong?




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Reply #22 sexpert's post

I doubt the HK Police would detain you for like a day under the reason of helping with their investigations... How would they be able to put you up for the night?! You can't stay in a cell, since you're not charged for anyway... Unless they think you're the pimp!!




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Any idea on when this blows over and punting resumes?
It sucks because I had set aside time on Tues = fail.
I was hoping for a make up tomorrow, but don't know now.

However, logically, it would make sense for cops to do this at locations where there is a high density of targets, especially Mandarin or foreign HGs. That would be where you would have the most potential arrests.
Mandarin = out of towners, which would provide the best chance at immigration charges
HGs are against the law, whereas WGs can operate within specific guidelines.
Theoretically, visiting a random 30 y.o. WG in Kwun Tong would have less probability of cop trouble.
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37 D - KP

Out of curiosity, does anyone know if these places get raided?
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Reply #25 ramont's post

Business back to normal today.
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Mongers should not worry about raids.  Happens all the time.  Just stick to the one girl, one apartment, and 18 years of age rule and the police can not do anything because that's completely legal.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by atomic3d at 26-5-2010 17:26
These are the age of consent laws in China according to wikipedia.

Under s.122 of the Crimes Ordinance[9], a person under the age of 16 cannot in law give any consent

now what happen if the pimp is the legal guardian of the girl and gave consent.

and what happen if i happened to be doing an indentical twins in the room. I remember few years ago there was twins in CWB and i had 3p with them.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by ramont at 26-5-2010 20:48
Theoretically, visiting a random 30 y.o. WG in Kwun Tong would have less probability of cop trouble.

but then a 30 YO WG in KT does not work for me
so i rather do without if that's the only alternative
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by yvieamy at 27-5-2010 00:58

but then a 30 YO WG in KT does not work for me
so i rather do without if that's the only alternative

btw, i found a 19 YO goodie in JD:
http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/r ... o=lastpost#lastpost
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Reply #24 CunningLinguist's post

I wouldn't worry about getting caught, I wouldn't worry about getting my name or picture in the paper, but I just wouldn't want to go through the fucking hassle.  Hey, even in TVB series there are stings where they "release snakes" onto the streets ya know?  I forget if you were Cantonese Chinese but "releasing snakes" FONG SEI, meaning decoy SWs out to bust johns soliciting.
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Reply #23 CunningLinguist's post

the 16-18 range is the curious zone. is it possible at all, to have sex at 16 as long as their parents/ guardian agree? i know sounds stupid but I know in the 1996 period when i frequented a KTV in HK once the police came all the sub 18s had to leave.

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Reply #24 CunningLinguist's post

on that comment bro cunning what the police do is they keep you in the investigation room for 24 hrs. i have had a friend asked to go in to help and he stayed in an investigating room NOT a cell as you clearly stated you havent been charged for anything
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Legality of Prostitution in Hong Kong

I think this is a FAQ and must read for all members going to Hong Kong

Contents [hide]
1 History
2 Types and venues
3 Migrant sex workers
3.1 Thailand and Philippines
3.2 Mainland China
4 Legal issues
4.1 Strategies to avoid the prohibition on brothels
5 Movies about prostitution in Hong Kong
6 Non Fiction Books about prostitution in Hong Kong
7 Fiction Books about prostitution in Hong Kong
8 Notes
9 See also
10 References
11 External links

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prostitution_in_Hong_Kong


For mainland China

Contents [hide]
1 Prostitution during the Maoist era
2 Prostitution after 1978
3 Foreign prostitutes in China
4 Types and venues
5 Legal responses
5.1 Prostitution law
5.2 Party disciplinary measures
6 Policing
7 The question of legalisation
8 HIV/AIDS
9 Prostitution in the media
10 Notes and references
11 Further reading
12 External links

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pro ... s_Republic_of_China

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Reply #23 CunningLinguist's post

In so far as age of consent, Hunter is right that it is 16. With regards to 141, I have so far not seen any specific law regarding the age a girl can operate a 141.

Theoretically, you could be correct, but Cap.200, Section 141(a) is curious in that although it is referring to the owner of the premises, it uses the words '... girl under the age of 16...' along with '...for the purpose of having unlawful sexual intercourse with a man or for the purpose of prostitution' in the same sentence.

http://www.hklii.org/hk/legis/en/ord/200/s141.html
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by hunter at 26-5-2010 15:33
under the crime ordinance, Section 124;
- having sexual intercourse with a gal under 16 shall be guilty of offence. (Max penalty: 5 yrs prison)
- having sexual intercourse with a gal under 13 (Max pen ...



QUOTE:
Originally posted by angst at 27-5-2010 13:56
In so far as age of consent, Hunter is right that it is 16. With regards to 141, I have so far not seen any specific law regarding the age a girl can operate a 141.

Theoretically, you could be corre ...

(a)  a girl under the age of 16 to resort to or be on such premises or
        vessel for the purpose of having unlawful sexual intercourse with a
        man or for the purpose of prostitution;


http://www.hklii.org/hk/legis/en/ord/200/s141.html


From reading the link from "atomic3d" from wikipedia, and from "Hunter" it seem like it is LEGAL to have sex with some that is 16 in HK. On the other hand, it ILEGAL in China. The penalties are worst if the girl is under 18.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_Asia

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Reply #37 Weelock's post

actually, that is not the question Cunning is asking.

He's asking if a girl under the age of 18 can run/operate a business, or for that matter, enter into contracts albeit verbal ones which is essentially what 141 is.

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i am curious then why did the news make such a big deal of a girl of 16 being caught if it is legal? because it is illegal to run a buiness under 18?

it seems like from the research done by bros here it is legal to have sex from 16 onwards in HK then
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Reply #39 sybian141's post

because it is the news and they always need to have headlines !

Now will someone with legal knowledge of HK please step forward and give us some credible advise !

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