maybe he is a sex-health professional.  kruptionhk probably thinks he'll never catch it since he knows about the risks of catching STDs and is taking his own measures to prevent it from happening.  Its exactly that type of thinking that gets ppl in trouble.

To all bros, please bring along your own trusted condoms always.

i just like to ask.. if there are other brothers out there that is just addicted to cream pie....i am asking because i am one of them and that is why it is hard for me   
use a condom in sex... when i see WG's i do use protection.. i am just asking if there are other bro's like me that just want to have cream pie all the time..even

when i am with a WG i just really want to cum inside her.. are there other bros that have this thinking if you do please talk to me...

lol..

i think ALL bros want to do that..

but just that we refrain from doing that..

safety first!

Why don't you start your own 'cream pie' thread instead of flooding this one with your irrelevant comments?

sorry about my comments ...all i saiding is every one in here is mature over 21 i think... safe sex is always on our minds .. you can catch aids from your gf or wives too right .. to only think we get aids from these poor wgs in hk is just ridiculous...i do not GO BB with all wg i try .. but for the few that i get to know more ..
and they know i like it bb, if they let me do it i will ..just my 2 cent..

That is just so fucking stupid!!! Just dumb!!!

Are you saying if the Prostitutes are around 20  - 21 yrs of age, they are fresher and probably less sex with guys and, lower risk???

Do know how young when they started as pro back in China....we've seen gal as young as 14 yrs old. Most of the SNs gals are < 20 yrs old.......a 17 yrs old WG joined the business since 15 yrs old and have been banging on average 1 to 5 a day for money.....say 1 guy in every 10 does creampie just like you, there u go and do the probability.............

All bros, don;t listen to what mr. F Cock.......he just pissing and jerking with all of us.......

[ Last edited by  hunter at 22-6-2009 16:43 ]

Absolutely not true - the majority of girls (and guys come to that) have very few partners in their lifetime.  They are low risk.


How you can possibly put that statement in the same paragraph as "safe sex is always on our minds" just blows my mind.  

If you EVER go BB with ANY girl who has multiple partners on a daily basis, paid or unpaid, "safe sex" is a million miles away from your mind.

to all the brothers here.... and i know there are tons of you guys .. alot of the women working as wg are really just normal women.. they worry about aids and std just like we do. i did not said i bb with all 21 22 hg girls i meet, to
the few that i have gotten to know and beclose with, i will some times ask for bb.  i never and i repeat i never said
bro go do BB with these ladies.. i am just expressing my feeling on this topic .. my teacher once told me best way
for safe sex means no sex.. if you all worry so much about this then do not come out to play simple..even with
your normal partner u can catch std or crabs.. but i do have to tks you all, from now on when i do play in cwb i
will use a condom always.

Fei_Cock .... I find your posts very hard to follow ... i.e. to understand what points you are trying to make, or defend?

The forum has experienced situations where posts create confusion, sometimes by design, so it is important to take care to seek proof/truth when dealing with issues regarding safe sexual practice. Your input is appreciated, as it is for all Bros, but it would be appreciated if you could provide more clarity when you post.

I think you are saying you practice safe sex, condoms ,etc., but it is not 100% clear. Anyway I don't want to put words in you mouth, if you have differing views put them forward for discussion.

I'm having a problem with your reasoning here bro. Just how does the fact that you've "gotten to know and be close" to a WG guarantee that she is STD-free? That's a kind of preventive medicine that I'm not familiar with.

How do you know they don't grant other whoreboys the same bareback privileges they allow you? And if these girls are as concerned about STD's as you claim, why do they allow anyone to screw them without basic protection? What kind of a health-conscious WG trusts a customer who she knows asks WGs for BB sex?

No, I think it's pretty obvious these girls aren't as worried about STDs as you seem to think.

And it's just as obvious that you don't give a shit about them either, because if you did, you'd do the basic minimum to make sure you don't give them anything.

You sound like one of those little shits who expect others to play by the rules while you do what you want.

There is one basic rule in this game bro, and that is always use a condom. Going without because you like going BB and trust the girls is both selfish and stupid. Most of the guys here would avoid a WG if they knew she allowed BB sex with any of her customers.

And it's not like anyone's asking you make any great sacrifices. Even with a condom sex is still great

[ Last edited by  Marsupial at 23-6-2009 10:35 ]

I totally agree that even with dom on sex is still great!!! not to mention bbbj... I think bbbj has the same risk with bbfs!?

I have no doubt that you do think that.

I think I am in Alice in Wonderland ......... This demonstrates the danger in some of the "disinformation" posts we have seen recently.

You seem to be seeking affirmation for your risk-taking in asking for BBFS.  Yes, I agree, the WGs are just normal women.  Theydo worry about STDs. They are in the sex business. They see the shenanigans of the punters. Those WGs don't do BBFS! Its those that grant you BBFS that you should worry, because they are the ones who are either ignorant about safe sex, or adopting the same careless attitude as yours.

Wake up bro!

You're obviously not listening to anyone here bro - and that's your funeral.  

We're posting here to make sure others who read your views have the opportunity to make a safe choice, to protect our own dicks from dicks like yours.  

Your view that your actions are "safe" in any way, or "as safe as" momogamous sex, is deluded.  Your actions in having BBFS with a WG is unsafe and unnecessarily risks spreading infection.  Thank God condoms do provide significantly better protection.  

You wanna play with your own health, fine - but stop trying to persuade others to agree with you!!!  

Especially: stop influencing poor WGs who may be even less well educated than you.

OK, listen carefully, because I have something to say that destroys the argument of the original post.

Bareback oral and bareback vagainal sex are NOT the same risk.

About ten years ago, when I first started mongering, I experienced flu-like symptoms two weeks after getting a BBBJCIM.  I was scared shitless because I read many HIV victims get flu-like symptoms shortly after infection.

I called the AIDS hotline in the U.S., run by the Center for Disease Control.  They told me not to worry.  Of the 250,000 cases of AIDS on file, NONE of them were from a BBBJCIM.  If you get AIDS from a BBBJ, you would be the first documented case.  The only risk is for the girl.  And even that risk is extremely low.

See for yourself...

From the Office of Public Health and Environmental Hazards, US Federal government
http://www.hiv.va.gov/vahiv?page=ptfaq-2006-02-27

"The risk of getting HIV through receiving oral sex is very, very low." (Notice they said "very" twice)

The University of California San Francisco goes further, and declares BBBJ to be "safe"

http://hivinsite.ucsf.edu/insite?page=ask-06-03-16

"You cannot get HIV from contact with saliva alone, so insertive oral sex (that is a man receiving oral sex) is safe"

The HIV virus cannot survive in saliva.  This is why it is extremely rare for lesbians (who do DATY all the time) to get AIDS.  

There is a theoretical chance it can happen if there are bleeding gums.  But there's a theoretical chance of anything happening, even getting struck by lightning three days in a row.  If you look into the science and statistics, the truth is clear.  BBBJCIM for guy is extremely safe.  While it's very safe for the girl, there is slightly higher risk for her.  It is certainly safer for both parties than bareback vaginal sex.

Of course, you can catch other disease from BBBJ.  But not HIV.  As for vagina or anal, of course you need to use condoms.

[ Last edited by  furryfriend at 23-6-2009 17:23 ]

Furry, you are not alone. Thanks for your input and links.

More references that fly in the face of what our sex-health guy kruptionk, alone in the world, would have us believe.

I really do wonder whether k persists in this because he actually believes his own bizarre reasoning; or whether he won't let it drop because he's the kind of guy who just can't stand to lose an argument.

From what he says, you'd think that I invented the whole thing just to fuck with everyone's health.

... we all do don't we?  I mean, we all believe in our own reasoning ...

It's just do we use our reasoning to justify the things we want to do, or do we take the trouble to check it against observable facts?

I'm a newbie when it comes to all this... My question is, as I usually DATY and receive BBBJ and kiss passionately, should I be brushing my teeth before or after all of this? And does rinsing with Listerine help? What about Listerine or even toothpaste BBBJs... Are they as risky as plain water methods? Actually, I've often wondered about the cheap brands of toothpaste the girls use on my sword up in China, and am seriously thinking of bringing my own tartar-control Oral-B next time...