YES!!! We guys really do it to ourselves....and the damn thing about it all is that there really is no perfect compromise ; not as long as there are women around!  Ends up that we guys go through most of life groping around from one situation to another!

But this thing about WG's....IMHO its as perfect a situation for us as is possible - coz then we can easily "compartmentalize" our life and enjoy each and every "compartment" to its nth!!

And JtB - you're being too kind - me and my Swedish English cain't ever even qualify as being poetic - not by a long shot!!

OTH.... ABBA - now.... that's more up my street!!  KTV forever!! I'll screech all night long!

SEAN - we Swedes are so talented ain't we??!!

This was brought up as a subject on another thread. But I wanted to ask a broader question.

If you married an Asian wife, do they tolerate you mongering so long as you come home at night?

I notice that once Asian wives have children they just sort of close one eye to the husbands outside mongering habits as long as he does not go overboard. It's almost as if the Asian wife accepts that she is not as attractive so husband can play around with younger girls and that's ok so long as her husband still loves her.

Of course if you have an Asian wife without children there's no bond that will keep herfrom leaving you, unless she is quite old or unattractive.

Is this an Asian thing or this is quite frequent across all ethnicities out there?

SEAN is this common
Back in your native Sweden?


Asndragon-- pondering the limits of love and sex.

My wife is from germany (im myself german too). She allows me to monger when i am in south east asia. this happens ca once a year. back home in germany i dont do anything. so you also find this in europe. no idea whether other girls here in germany would tolerate this. when i see reactions from GF of my friends when i go alone to asia i guess they would not tolerate ;).

Believe the answer to this question lies in the socio-economic up-bringing and analysis of the protagonists; with more emphasis on the economic side of the equation.

I have noticed that as a country/society gets richer and economic opportunities arises - including and encompassing that for the women in that society - that the women becomes more strident and even "macho" (!! + LOL) in their demands! For they can well afford to do so.

And even within the sub-strata in any particular society, women of lesser economic means are USUALLY more pliant and easier to "subjugate."

On the male side though, I would also suggest that Guys in less developed countries/less equal marriage are more aware of their role AND responsibilities as the male of the household - and usually act accordingly.

Anyway, that is what my "perfect world symmetry rose colored lenses" tell me! HUH?

LMAO!
SEAJ - did I REALLY just write all THAT??!!

Ps edit:
May as well put these up here too!
Whicxh one you guys prefer?

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American wives want more than half of everything, your blood,& alimony support for the rest of her life, if she have proof of you cheating on her.

The divorce Laws in the USA favors the females.  

Yeah - white Tigers ARE GREAT!!!

But look at hairy's face (which I hope I've blurred enough to make a positive ID unrealistic whilst capturing her rapture!) whilst in action!
And she really.... REALLY... went to town with my bullet vibrator!!

SEAN...ahhhh... nice memories!

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Not my Chinese wife!!  We have a daughter and my wife is just as suspicious and jealous as ever.

Interesting actually!

Are you yourself Chinese or Western?

And if you're Western, could it possibly be that you/your Western/Westernized circle of friends/family have somehow "transferred over/influenced" your wife's societal mores?

I've noticed this happening with quite a few of my inter-racial couple friends.

SEAN - just wondering

SEAN


Wow, she seems to really be liking that bullet vibrator!

I once had a session with a Manhattan KTV girl that I picked up on the street for a ST for 500 RMB back in the days. She was from Guangxi and very innocent looking. I brought out a bullet vibrator and she got a bit shocked. I asked if she's used one before and she said no! and she doesn't want it used on her!

I told her, i'll be gentle and if you don't like it tell me and I won't do it anymore. Needless to say, She got really excited and the vibrating bullet that I used on her made her cum in less than 3 minutes tops! When she came I asked her "do you like it? I love the way you react when I use it on you!"

She said "well, it felt good, if you like the way I react using it, then why not give me one as a gift!"

LOL! She went from being petrified seeing this vibrating bullet to wanting one to take home to have!


AsnDragon-- I think I corrupted a young girl that evening.

@AsnDragon : yes she is getting same priviledge but does not take use of it (so far). She allowed to me to play around in SEA with hookers when i asked her. Initially i was keen to tryout this at all. And on the other hand im horny on asia girls and she knows about it. The borderline is: i have to pay for my external activities and all must be safe. Civvies are not allowed -> feelings stuff.  Actually she hoped i just wanna try out and than the phantasy is satisfied. But both of us didnt expect i like it so much. Nowadays she is not happy so much anymore with that. In August i will be once again in HK and i told her already i would like to do some action there. Well.... she does not prohibit. But she also says.. she is not really happy with it. On the other hand she knows i would be very unhappy to go to HK without doing any thing. Lets see whether i can kepp up our agreement. If she says "no" i will follow that. I could never cheat her, she would see in my eyes when i enter the door back home.

LOL! She would know  as you enter through the door back home? You mean when you enter your house with a nice big smile and grin on your face? It's a dead -giveaway.

Anyhow, to be honest when partaking in any of these mongering activities, I always say to brothers:

NEVER LET YOUR SO FIND OUT OR KNOW! LIE, LIE and LIE SOME MORE

The issue is this. if you admit to mongering, your wife knows and she will ALWAYS suspect that you are out there doing other women. It's actually better for her to NOT know about any of it so at least she can lie to herself that you are actually just out there grabbing a beer with some buddies and the music is too loud so you couldn't hear her phone call that evening.

Once you admit to her, you have a lot of problems on your hands. She will always be anxious and she will be upset and holding a resentment against you. It may not show up now, but it will show up later, I can guarantee it! So it's better that you go back, tell your wife that it's no big deal and you don't find it all that fun and that she's the only one for you.

For other Brothers out there, Don't dig yourself this type of trap. No woman on this earth, if she loves you, will be happy with you fucking around. So do it discreetly  and don't get caught red handed. It's a sign of respect that you have for her that you are not out there openly admitting to cheating on her and making her lose face.

So if she asks if you have been sleeping around with other women! Deny anything and everything!


AsnDragon-- even if she finds a condom in your pocket, just make up some story that it was on the ground near your doorway and you didn't want some kid to see it, it's a bad influence etc.

Seaj, I am a Caucasian American.  And frankly I don't hang around with other Westerners much.  A cup of coffee here or there and that's about it.

AsnDragon, divorce is the least of my worries.  I am more concerned about losing body parts......

Thanks .... and first my request that you do give me a bit of leeway for perhaps going into generalities and perhaps a possibly offensive popular stereotyping?

But have you considered that the very fact that your Chinese SO would have even contemplated a life together with you an indication as to her not very traditionally Chinese up-bringing/her rather Western outlook in life.  And that as such, she would adopt/adapt to a more Western/Judeo-Christian way of thinking as far as love, marriage and relationships is concerned?

And/or perhaps that she has tailored her way of thinking into YOUR way - being the loyal/loving wife that she is to you?

Just a thought
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I just got done skimming through what I'm sure must be quite a good report - but which I stopped reading in earnest as soon as the OP mentions that his wife was undergoing Chemotherapy.  

I don't know......but staring at that report just brought back to me the stark reality of the mongering life for us married guys and a reminder to myself about the whole sort of sordid life we as mongers have taken on when just satisfying our primal needs.

O....M....G....!!!!

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There was a man, who had worked all his life, had saved all of his money, & was a real miser when it came to spending it.

Just before he died, he said to his wife,"When I die, I want you to take all my money and put it in the casket with me. I worked for it, it's mine and I want to take it to the afterlife with me."

And so he got his wife to promise him, with all of her heart, that when he died, she would put all of his money into the casket with him.

Well, he died. He was stretched out in the casket, his wife was sitting there - dressed in black, and her friend was sitting next to her. When they finished the ceremony, and just before the undertakers got ready to close the casket, the wife said,

"Wait just a moment!"

She had a small metal box with her; she came over with the box and put it into the casket.
Then the undertakers locked the casket down and they rolled it away.

Her friend sitting with her said,
"Girl, surely you were not foolish enough to put all that money in there with your husband?."

The loyal wife replied,
"Listen, I'm an obedient wife and that was my dear husband's last wish;   I cannot go back on my word.
I promised him that I would put all his money into the casket with him."

"You mean to tell me you buried all that money in the casket !?!?!?"

"I sure did," said the wife.
"I got it all together, put it into my account, and wrote him a cheque.... If he can cash it, then he can spend it!"

@ JTB

LOL, but I am not sure that helps me unless I lose my part while in Bangkok!

But that got me to thinking.....what about penile REPLACEMENT surgery.  Just think of the possibilities?

Well the fact that your are missing body parts in Bangkok can be interpreted as a good thing as Thailand medical treatment is pretty top notch and affordable.

But let's hope that you don't get to that stage.


AsnDragon

Wasn't it you who said somethin' like

"Guys gets married and wants their wife to remain exactly the same but women get married and spend the rest of their life trying to change the guy"

Which although, IMHO, a bit of an over-simplification, is nonetheless very correct.

To me, that this happens in too many marriages is a travesty - and one that could/SHOULD be nipped very early in the bud.  Let's face it, us guys are usually way more in love (or more accurately, in lust) than our gals when contemplating marriage. We really MUST BE as we're there proposing to underwrite the rest of HER life...thru thick and thin and all that... whilst all she's really agreed to is just to spread her legs for the rest of her life for you.  I mean...how unequal is THAT??!!

Anyway, I digress; just take it as the truth that we guys must all be on crack cocaine when proposing marriage! But it's still NOT too late even then...if we set OUR RULES AND EXPECTATIONS on the line.

Its totally acceptable for us males to set these rules as we ARE the male of the combination - but alas - too many times I've seen that husbands do NOT even realize this and blissfully let their wives get away with crap!

Just IMHO only of course!

SEAN - We Swedes don't take no shit from our kvinnor

my first entry into the JtB haiku contest


Enticing photo

dodgy lift and grotty hall

alas, its “please wait”


<cue round of applause>



Keep on mongering

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SEAN,


Unless you have an ironclad prenuptial agreement signed beforehand, most times it's quite useless to be "setting the rules" with girls these days. Besides, most girls won't even marry you if you have an iron-clad prenup, unless she herself is completely filthy rich herself as well.

Most ladies, once married know that they basically got you by the balls. Financially, you are their slaves, thus they use this as leverage in manipulating you to no end. That's before you have a kid. Once you have kids, she uses her position as the mother of your children to put herself up even higher on the pedestal and then at the same time use guilt trips to start controlling you.

Example:

You: "Oh hey Honey, I'm going up to China to play golf with the boys (even though you are secretively wanting to monger)"

Wife: "But today is our son's special day, I promised we would take him to the park, he would be so disappointed."

In marriage, once you sign that paper to unify as husband and wife, she is and always will be in a dominate position. Financially she's got your balls. You can try to argue and scream and fight all you want, but she is still in the dominate position.

Number 1 rule of game theory is: always be in a dominant position--thus, don't get married!

Your quotation: "  Let's face it, us guys are usually way more in love (or more accurately, in lust) than our gals when contemplating marriage. We really MUST BE as we're there proposing to underwrite the rest of HER life...thru thick and thin and all that... whilst all she's really agreed to is just to spread her legs for the rest of her life for you.  I mean...how unequal is THAT??!!

Anyway, I digress; just take it as the truth that we guys must all be on crack cocaine when proposing marriage! "

It is one of the most genius post you have ever written. So honest and true, nobody can deny!

AsnDragon-- It takes a lot to want to marry a girl. It's like buying a new car! You love it in the beginning because it's new and fresh, but after a few years, you just want to trade it in for a newer model.

I am not sure we are not being a little bit too jaded about marriage.  It is a partnership in life, and has tremendous value to me.  I fuck around, to be sure, but I am damn happy to go home to a woman, who thru thick and thin, has my back.  She has supported me in everything and took on a lot of shit so I could just do my job and get us ahead.  I gotta great family and she takes care of the 1,000 little things that need taking care of.

I suppose one agreement we reached early on was this:  If she was going to stay home while I worked my ass off, than she must take care of EVERYTHING --- I do not want to spend my precious free time during evenings or weekends doing errands of ANY kind.  My free time is to be spent enjoying life (usually with the family, but sometimes not).  She doesnt ask me ever, and she doesnt complain about it or nag ever -- she agrees we have a good deal, a good partnership.  She lives well because of what I do, and I live well because of what she does.

Wander,


I believe my previous post was a bit more...one sided on the whole marriage issue. Of course I am happy that in your marriage things have worked out. But I'm referring more to today's marriages. Among these young girls I see getting married, many of them are not are giving, and caring as their predecessors.

My post refers more today's society of newly married women. Before there was an understanding that a marriage is not just a partnership, but a life-long companion and lover that share all aspects of life and stick together through thick and thin. But nowadays, with sky-rocketing divorces and young couples that throw in the towel so quickly and easily whenever a small problem comes up is becoming way to prevalent in today's world. In today's world it seems that materialism and wanting to be "taken care of" is a women's number priority. Not all women, but many young women these days.

Before it was more of what can i do to help and please my spouse. Nowadays it's more of what can my spouse do to please me? Entitlement and selfish behaviors are too common place among youngsters these days.

What happened to the good old days where marriage was more sacred and treasured, as opposed to today where it's used to climb up on the socio-eocnomic ladder?

AsnDragon-- Highlighting the faults of TODAY's marriages among youngsters. I should have been more clear. Although these types of behaviors do exist among many older couples too. Glad you got it lucky and things are working well for you!