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locking/unlocking

i know none of this is intuitive, but please try not to confuse unlocking w/jailbreaking.

keep it simple: all iPhones sold in HK are unlocked:
http://store.apple.com/hk/browse/home/shop_iphone/family/iphone

u need a micro-SIM for any of the 4-series. and Apple wants u in their ecosystem, with iTunes acct/credit card, etc. there are workarounds, but if u live in HK/Macau and have a card, this is the simplest (and IMO safest) way to go.

when u get into China/used phones/jailbreaking, it gets more complex. lots of info on the Net--pls read and inform yrself if yr jailbreaking iPhones or getting into Android. it's not terribly complex, and another setup may work better for u, but pls do some research. i'm not a telco expert.

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SEAJ   14-2-2012 23:25  Karma  +1   Tks for going along/putting up w/all my rookie questions!
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Reply #3421 JackTheBat's post

Thanks! Yes, I do need to do some more research etc.

Started with just me trying to do a favour for somebody in the Mainland who wanted to get the best deal" for an Iphone 4...and in the process found out that there's so many variations, kinds of IPhones i.e. used, new, jailbroken, force-Unlocked US phones, used original unlocked Hong Kong phones...and all sorts of other terminologies etc.

And ends up with me now trying to figure out what's the best replacement phone I should get for myself!

Thanks y'all for putting up with all my real rookie questions etc!!

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JackTheBat   14-2-2012 23:34  Karma  +1   Apple hasn't made it easy. add in used+parallel mkts, it's confusing




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Reply #3422 SEAJ's post

Regarding iP4s, in the Philippines, gray market selling at 32k pesos for the 16gb variant.
Last Dec, while i was in HK, the best price for the factory unlocked at TST was 5.8k HK$.
I wonder if its price at HK already same as what Apple Store is selling at 5088 HK$.

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SEAJ   15-2-2012 22:35  Karma  +1   The price NOT in the Apple store was higher? Or am I not understanding?
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Reply #3423 devilgodspeed's post

As of today, the following are the  prices of unlocked Iphones direct from Apple Hong Kong - but also from the various retail stores offering them...with varying number of delivery days for the 4S

Iphone 4s       
HK$5,088 16GB
HK$5,888 32GB
HK$6,688 64GB

Iphone4        
HK$4,288 8GB

Iphone 3GS
HK$2,888 8GB

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Frenchexpat   15-2-2012 21:15  Karma  +2   See below! And the 2ks is just to celebrate my return to RA30!!!! ;)




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Just out of curiosity, wth happened to Ki Ki of SKM?

Out of nowhere, all reports on her have stopped, particularly after her apartment change.

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SEAJ   15-2-2012 22:36  Karma  +1   Err..actually a lot of other reports has also stopped! LMAO
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Seaj, not sure you have but you should consider the Galaxy II. Its better than the iphone but I admit that in terms of applications iphone is waaaaay more simple. So if tech toys (more elaborate than a dildo with speed ) are not frightening, give the G2 a try. Im on Blackberry, and I hate this crap every minute I use it...

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SEAJ   15-2-2012 22:33  Karma  +1   CONGRATULATIONS - AGAIN - TO OUR C. CONQUEROR Frenchexpat!!
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Oh and this one is just a SPAM to get to 300ks.... Yeah I know thats bad and I should be ashame, but still, I want my baby back baby back baby back (mmmm for those who think Im nots, just refering th fat Bastard in Austin Powers! )

Right, where that bottle of champagne again?

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Tuffbod   16-2-2012 11:29  Karma  +1   If it's a spam,it's for the next level! LOL
SEAJ   15-2-2012 22:34  Karma  +1   WOT SPAM?? You're ALREADY a CC prior to this post!! LOL!
redwearer   15-2-2012 22:19  Acceptance  +1   The elusive goal!
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Reply #3422 SEAJ's post

Hey Seaj. I see the iPhone 4 is still on the cards for you. Here's my 2cents... Assuming you start off with a network-locked iPhone 4, then I know of the following options to get it unlocked:

1.) Get it unlocked from the carrier itself, which depends on the carrier. For example, I've come across these possibilities in my home town:
- if you fulfill the length of the contract then some carriers will allow the phone to be unlocked with a phone call to their support;
- some carriers will force you to pay a nominal fee regardless; and
- a rare few will just give it to you free if you state you are going overseas and need the phone unlocked so it can be used with a foreign SIM.
NB: YMMV depending on the country and the carrier that the iPhone came from. There might be some carriers that never offer any form of phone unlocking service (that I'm yet to be aware of).

2.) Jailbreaking the iPhone will allow a certain amount of modification/hacking to be done to the phone, of which will usually mean the ability to unlock the phone from the original network. This is why jailbreaking can become confused with an unlocked phone. Now the success of the unlocking via jailbreaking is not always 100% (well based on my past readings), but I suspect these days it has gotten to the point where it is above 90%. The process would probably be simple enough for some, but for those less technically inclined you may want to "call a friend" who is more skilled in this area.

Note: AFAIK any other method of unlocking the iPhone from the carrier are purely lies. So don't believe the scam websites that claim to be able to do it. If you're curious about such scam websites, please look here: http://www.scam.com/showthread.php?t=127773 (and observe how the scammers jump onto the forum to pretend to give people false hope by saying it actually does work - they will typically only have 1 post against their name). If you do a Google search, you'll soon realise that these websites even have their own faked review/testimonial websites to make their scam seem legit. Don't trust them!

Another note (not quite related to unlocking, but still relevant to travelling with the phone): The iPhone 4 was released in two models: a GSM and later CDMA (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone_4). Take care that you get the right model for use with your intended network, since GSM is a totally different to CDMA. However, the newest iPhone 4S apparently has compatibility with both GSM and CDMA types of networks built-in (see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPhone_4S) and thus is being touted as the "truly international world phone" (http://www.macworld.com/article/ ... s_world_phone_.html).

*edit* fixed URLs

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SEAJ   17-2-2012 12:36  Karma  +2   THANKS! VERY informative! Maximum sharing/caring!
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WOAH, what a crazy patpong night.  Will try to write up bangkok reports up soon.

Got slapped ( not a playful one, but hard and full of anger, shocked the shit out of me ) by a crazy obsessed working girl then got treated to a late night dinner by same crying girl.  Tell you the truth, I kinda liked it.  

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Intenseslacker   19-2-2012 12:18  Karma  +1   Woah, want to hear those details!
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Reply #3429 scootermonger's post

What's THAT all about?  I'd be VERY interested to know!

Had a sorta similar experience w/a gal from a Phuket bar; all lovey dovey before I bar fined her and when we were on the way back to my place, had been a bit "fresh" with her. You know, something that's more playful and quite easily accepted by PRC gals good naturedly - but this gal went ballistic and even insisted that we go to the Police Station!!  REALLY!! Something to do with insulting her and that Thai ladies do NOT accept such behaviour!  OMIGAWD....a farkin' international incidence in the making ....HER making of course. Ladies???  She's a WG forCrissakes!

Well...as luck would have it...NOBODY at the police station!!! And we settled it by my giving her THB 500 and telling her to just leave!  So much for her being a lady!! US$ 15!

But yeah, these LOS gals can be nutso - especially when high on whatever they get high on. And as such, I've learned it's NOT a good idea to joke/mess around with them; just do it and get it over and done with it!  And that's also another reason why nowadays I just mostly do my mongering in China - lots less hassles PLUS I can enjoy the fair skin and delicate features of our China beauties!

SEAN - I learned!!




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Question for the Bangkok experts...

Are the girls at Scratch Dog working girls?  There are definitely some very fine women in this place.

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Reply #3428 yyy111's post

I had great success with www.jailbreak-my-iphone.com.  It's a paid service, but it's a one-time payment and then you get lifetime updates.

I found the instructions a bit difficult to follow at first, but once I figured out what I was doing it worked great.

Once you unlock you iphone, be REALLY careful if you ever connect it to your Mac with iTunes.  You will be asked if you want to update your iphone.  DO NOT update or you will have to go through the whole process over again, in some cases even undoing the update.

I am speaking from experience....

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LIfe is so fleeting...

feeling a bit morose and introspective today.

One of my friends just found out he's got stage 3 cancer and another one who just went to a health checkup - only to fail his stress test and undergoing more tests etc - and he's only in his mid-thirties!

Mantra - enjoy it whilst you can! Never know when its all gonna end.

SEAN - introspective and appreciating life.

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Reply #3433 SEAJ's post

I concur with you on this SEAJ Sifu. Life's definitely too fleeting and short to enjoy all the best things in life can get.

One of my friend just had a surgery to remove the cancerous cells from his nostril area a couple of months back and he is now all good. I think he was lucky in the sense that he went for a check-up and the problem was detected early and treated ASAP. Not sure what will happen if he puts off having the checks and didn't do anything about it. Now he has a completely different perspective on life and he keeps telling me to live life to the fullest and don't be a fool...never wait for something to happen...if there is something you want to get and can afford it, get it. If there is a place you want to visit and can afford it, go ahead, just don't wait.

Life's too short and unpredictable to be wasted on procrastination. Enjoy it whilst you can...how true.

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Jimstevens   18-2-2012 12:16  Acceptance  +2   Agreed. Lately I feel my youth fading. Need more WG's to cheer me up!




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Can't wait to get back to HK

On a less solemn note...

I only have about 4 weeks until I'm back in HK!  I'm makin a list of spots to hit and will literally be a posting machine once back in town.

First stop... 37D.  I'll be jet-lagged like hell and will be ready for a sure-thing / highly skilled experience.

Second stop ... Coronet Court.  I've had many good and bad experiences there and it's such a random smorgasbord of ladies.  The risky never-know-what-you'll-get will be a good contrast to 37D

Third stop... D1 in Macau.  Another sure thing with absolutely badass WG's

Fourth stop ... Wanchai.  Probably OHC then onto NewMakati.  Easy girls and try before you buy.

Fifth and beyond... will try new things and report back here.

I can't freaking wait!!!

Edit:
Almost forgot... I've also lined up a Fili civvie from last time I was there.  Keeping her on the hook via Skype.  Won't report on that one obviously but also high on my list

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SEAJ   18-2-2012 15:51  Karma  +1   Just pace urself. U do NOT want to be pussy burnt out too early on ur hols!
Tuffbod   18-2-2012 12:28  Karma  +1   Bro, good luck & all the best on your pussy hunting adventure!




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Gonuts

Way out of what's currently being discussed here...

Gonuts' gone MIA? Haven't seen the guy around for sometime. I wonder how he is doing with his hunt for a civvie...

Sorry for the diversion...but just can't keep wondering how's the kid doing (I think I am old enough and qualified to call him a kid).

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Jimstevens   20-2-2012 09:04  Karma  +1   Maybe he found a civvie and can no longer report :)
SEAJ   19-2-2012 23:26  Karma  +1   Yah gonuts- wherefor art thou?




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QUOTE:
Originally posted by scootermonger at 15-2-2012 08:28 PM
Just out of curiosity, wth happened to Ki Ki of SKM?

Out of nowhere, all reports on her have stopped, particularly after her apartment change.

Cass posted a report about her a month ago in the Restricted section. I added a short commentary on my visit from the same week. I think there are several reasons:
1. Punting slowed down during CNY as some guys & girls take a break.
2. It seems like there are less guys posting (more so in the HGs section).
3. I think with KiKi, since there are so many reports, guys don't post revisits or even reports because they feel there isn't much to add.

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SEAJ   19-2-2012 23:26  Karma  +1   Good observation. Thanks!
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Reply #3436 Tuffbod's post

LOL. i am here watching u guys in silence.
yeah its true that i am still chasing skirts.
fail miserably asking a girl out at valentine
thats truely sucks and lonely valentine yesterday


btw sorry bout ur friends. and yeah, life is short. and what we want to accomplish might need more time
ohhh... how i long to have a relationship with japanese girl
but i don't think my heart could take it if it comes true

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Tuffbod   21-2-2012 00:47  Karma  +1   Good to know u r still ard!
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DB141   20-2-2012 12:18  Karma  +1   Oh shit, the sleeping dog has been awakened!




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btw, how come u know i am in heat like a dog now ???
damn...
i can't sleep normally like i always do.

usually i did not move so much while sleeping.
now, i always turn around and shake my hips against my bolster like a dog in heat

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SEAJ   20-2-2012 23:56  Karma  +1   Now Now, calm down N remember NOT to serialize ur posts. OK?




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Reply #3438 gonuts's post

What is the fascination people always seem to huge with Japanese girls? As Asian girlsgo, I think both China and the Philippines may have a higher percentage of hot chicks.they certainly have chicks with better teeth, anyway.

Japanese chicks are annoying. They squeal too much and act like children. Having dinner with a few of them is bloody torture. Give me a couple randy Filipino girls any dayof the week.

/prepares for flames

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Jimstevens   21-2-2012 14:46  Karma  +2   They can be a little like squeak toys hehe :)
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