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Post at 28-1-2012 22:56  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #3319 and 3320 Weelock's and frown4sorrow's post

WOW!!!  Thanks!

This is what I LOVE about this forum - sharing and caring!!
Ask anything, say something, even rant ...and the spirit of brotherhood takes over.
Sooooo Great here!!

Anyway - the one thing that I really am concerned about is getting one of those jail broken AMERICAN IPhones instead of one that is a Hong Kong set which is totally open. Anybody got any suggestions on how I can make sure that I get a HONGKONG Iphone i/o jail broken one from somewhere else (as I've heard they're all so prone to problems sooner or later.

I've also "heard" that the price of a new IPhone4 is supposed to " come down quite drastically within the next few weeks/month etc.  Any truth to this?

Thanks again guys!!

SEAN




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Post at 29-1-2012 00:50  Profile Blog P.M. 
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iPhone 4

hey there SEAN, there are plenty of options. thx to frown2sorrow for outlining the Mongkok-options.

sounds like you've made the iPhone vs Android-phone decision already. there are arguments for both, but the iPhone IMO has better support and security. however, there's only one manufacturer and they set it up so users are within the Apple-ecosystem. that said, it's a healthy ecosystem.

the 4S is the latest and hard to find, people buy/sell the latest Apple devices, smuggle them into China, whatever. there are fake iPhones all over the region. some may even work.

my suggestion: if you're going to get an iPhone 4, buy a genuine one from Apple. check this URL:
http://store.apple.com/hk/browse ... mily/iphone/iphone4

the unit is unlocked and takes a micro-SIM card, not a standard SIM. i advise against "jailbreaking" an iPhone. Apple puts their own software on the phone, and while the apps must be obtained/uploaded via their iTunes store, the release of their SDK (software-developer kit) years ago means there's a wide variety of apps available. if u stay within Apple's parameters, you're limited to the apps that have been vetted by Apple...but there's over seventy thousand and i don't think you'll be bored.

the jailbroken iPhone or Android route is an option, but there are security issues. mobile malware exists and expect to see plenty more. if you do decide to buy a used iPhone, be aware of fakes and jailbreaking. anyone who had that phone before you might have done...whatever to the device. you don't know. for this reason, i bought my iPhone 4 directly from Apple.

there are Apple stores in HK, and if u want, go test the phone at one of those stores. have a salesman explain what u can do with the thing. don't mention jailbreaking or Android--they'll just dissuade you. if you want to go that route, find someone who knows what they're doing and ask their advice.

i've found the iPhone the most limiting piece of gear Apple has released, BUT, there are workarounds. for example, the web-browser Opera (it's Norwegian, very light, ideal for mobiles) is a free app on the App Store. most people just use Safari, which is fine, but having a browser-choice is important. Opera's faster and simpler, plus u can use that for yr 141-stuff and tuck it in a folder--not foolproof but not obvious either.

as far as a multimedia device, Apple wants you to plug in and download everything via iTunes. OK fine, but u can also use Preview or Image Capture to download specific pix/movies u've taken with yr phone, in the folder u want. on a Mac that is--you'll have to ask someone else if yr using Windows cuz i don't do Windows. it's classic-Apple nowadays: they give u the functionality, but don't advertise it. they want u on their store, downloading mp3s/pay-apps/whatever.

also be aware that surfing the web and other activities incur data-charges: the unlimited-data schemes are fine if u've got one and yr in Hong Kong, but be sure the "data-roaming" switch in Settings stays OFF. telcos charge absurd amounts for data-roaming (they charge for phone calls and SMSs too, but it's less absurd).

Wi-Fi works great on the iPhone, u can set up yr email accounts on it as well. when Android came out, the general opinion was "it's like an iPhone, but clunkier." they've made it slicker, but malware is an issue. i think you'll see more malware in the future as Android takes a bigger share of the market.

everyone has an opinion on mobile phones and lots of folks love their Android devices. they're cheaper, and u can download plenty of apps. this year will see more releases of phones and tablets, including some from Apple. but whatEVER Apple releases will be in heavy demand. people just go crazy over the latest Apple device. they'll wreck the store if they can't get it. this makes Apple's supply-chain a total beast--considering they have to have millions of units on store-shelves, shipped/manufactured/designed (working backwards) all in secret before Tim Cook steps onstage and announces it. that's why it's best to get a generation-earlier if the device works, and i'm delighted with my iPhone 4. yes, it'll be cheaper later. my 2008 iPhone3G is beat-up and battered, but has 16GB of memory so i run it without a SIM as an iPod. the battery isn't what it used to be but it's great for the gym or the MTR.

while i'm on about Apple, there's a rumor going around which likely isn't true, but it's so intriguing that i'll repeat it here (NOTE: i don't really expect this to happen, but it's possible). when Jobs was alive, he loved to end his keynotes by saying "just one more thing": then revealing the new gadget. this was great showmanship, and of course, Apple never needed to buy advertising as it'd be on just about every media outlet the next day.

so, next big Apple event, speculation for days, Cook announces all the other stuff, and says: "just one more thing"...the lights dim, and a hi-def video of Jobs appears.

of course the place will go BATSHIT when Steve appears. he can say whatever he wants. but then he introduces the iPad 3 or iPhone5. and hands it back to Tim. lights come up, and it'll be five minutes before Cook can even say a word.

like i say, i don't expect it. but Steve Jobs knew a lot before he Went Celestial, and i wouldn't put it past him. it'd be in the Top Ten Media Moments for 2012 no matter when it happened. it's the only thing that could possibly top Steve's untimely death, and he's the type of guy who'd enjoy giving the finger to the Reaper just once. yeah, i'm dead, and i'm announcing my company's new product!

Steve Ballmer could resign the next day, and it'd be a footnote.

JtB

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Post at 29-1-2012 01:35  Profile P.M. 
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Just a quick question, has anyone been to any of the G Clubs in Thailand?  Such as The Bank, the pimp, etc...?  

If so how were they?  I might be going to bkk for 2 nights and am looking for some entertainment, something outside of the norm.

I am guessing these places are something similar to Chocolates in Beijing?  Dance/sing show with scantily clad women, but no sex...?

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SEAJ   29-1-2012 11:53  Karma  +1   Bn in past to these Gentlemen clubs. Quite expensive but gals more to my liking.
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Your anti american sentiment is really amusing.

I will take the time to educate your ignorance on the matter as you seem to be mixing up terms (perhaps something is lost in translation)

Unlock refers to the phones ability to accept a SIM card from using a compatible technology (most of the world uses GSM, though some pockets of CDMA still exist).

Jailbreak refers to an iPhones ability to run unsigned code.  (many people incorrectly talk about jailbreaking an android device, it is actually known as rooting, not jailbreaking).

Now to continue with this iPhone discourse... and assuming you are referring to an unlocked phone rather than a jailbroken phone...

To tell if a phone is jailbroken, you must look for a program called cydia.  If cydia is present, the phone is jailbroken.

If the phone is NOT jailbroken, you can proceed to step (HU).  If the phone IS jailbroken, you can proceed to (SU)

(HU)  To tell if the phone is HARDWARE unlocked, remove the SIM tray (it holds the SIM).  Place another SIM in the phone.  Restart the phone.  If you can make a phone call using a different sim, you are hardware unlocked, congrats!

*** There is something called a GEVEY SIM Interposer which requires CYDIA and some other procedures to work, which is why we remove the SIM from the phone and restart it as it messes with the interposer.


(SU)  If Cydia is present, it is possible that you have a software unlock.  There are two things we will look for, one is very conclusive and a bit difficult for novices.  The other is not very conclusive but very easy to do.  If you are a NOVICE proceed to (NSU) if (NSU) was not definitive, proceed to (ESU).


(NSU) - Open the settings app.  
Scroll down and click on "general"  
Click on About.
Scroll down to Modem Firmware.  Look for the following numbers:
iPhone 3 3GS - 4.26.08  5.11.07  5.12.01  5.13.04 ***6.15.00
iPhone 4 - 1.59.00

If you see one of these numbers, you MAY have a software unlock proceed to (ESU).  if you do not see one of these numbers. You have a hardware unlock (or possibly the most valuable iPhone on the planet....)

(ESU)  Open the Cydia app
On the bottom bar, press the "Manage" tab
Then press the "Packages" button
Scroll down and look for something called "Ultrasn0w"

if Ultrasn0w is present, you have a software unlocked iPhone.  Be careful because if you update it, you just lost your unlock!

The more you know, (brought to you by someone with an American Passport)!

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travelpro   31-1-2012 06:17  Acceptance  +1   Didn't understand any of that!
doghead   30-1-2012 22:42  Acceptance  +1   Thanx,another reason to live in HK vs US (too many restrictions/regulations)
yyy111   29-1-2012 18:43  Acceptance  +1   Tks for info,but not anti-US to want to easily get unlocked iPhone (non-JB).
Weelock   29-1-2012 13:58  Karma  +2   Great info but hard to understand if you are not tech phone savvy thks
SEAJ   29-1-2012 11:47  Karma  +1   Thanks-but no need to get snarky w/any1 else.Everybody's just sharing/caring!
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Post at 29-1-2012 21:21  Profile P.M. 
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Reply #3321 SEAJ's post



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Originally posted by SEAJ at 28-1-2012 22:56
I've also "heard" that the price of a new IPhone4 is supposed to " come down quite drastically within the next few weeks/month etc.  Any truth to this?

Pricing of existing iPhone models will probably come down as soon as a new iPhone (iPhone 5?) is released. Some (such as here) predict this will likely happen mid-2012, and others (such as this site) predict Q1-2012.

What you may notice right now is that Apple is selling the iPhone 4 (after they just released the iPhone 4S) for cheaper than it was originally, since they now only offer an 8GB option (previously the iPhone 4 was released as 16GB or 32GB models).  This is similar to what they did with iPhone 3S when iPhone 4 just came out.

As JtB already mentioned - if they aren't already decided on the iPhone, then there may be a few reasons to consider an Android-based phone instead. For one, all Androids use the standard sims AFAIK (as opposed to micro-sims). Also one of my personal gripes with the iPhone is that it allows network carriers to lock out tethering (tethering = turning your phone into a 3G modem so you can access internet on your PC) - despite the phone being allowed to access data by itself. This iPhone "feature" allows the carrier to charge you more for enabling tethering (though apparently you can workaround it via jailbreaking). It's one of the most silliest things I've ever come across when it comes to unnecessary/artificial limitations

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Was just reading an interesting story in the papers – a whimsical flight of the imagination when all of a sudden something came rushing to my cerebral consciousness!!  NO it wasn’t a Eureka moment type thing – but more like Omigawd…is this what it’s all about??!! OMIGAWD!!

I’ve often wondered about my recent devout devotion to this board, and why I would come back to it time and time again; definitely to excess and it’s not as if I’ve got anything to gain from it….or do I??

I’ve expounded on the sharing and caring and camaraderie and fun and games on here – but are these all really enough for me to get pretty well “addicted” to this forum??!! Oh sure, if it was just “something to do” when there’s nothing else – all that would fit the bill – but this heavy duty addiction? My alter-ego religion??!! LOL!! (errr….not really LOL, more like a smirk whilst shaking my head!!)

I’ve even tried to examine others’ pattern here; some may love coming on to show off how much he knows, some may just want to write about adventures he actually wishes he was having, and some may even actually tailor-make his adventures to fit the stories he tells here!!  Woo Hoo!!  And of course the journeyman mongers who just do it and report back – stellar characters, truly sharer and carers!! And then there are those who just really need to get up in the rankings to be able to see pictures…and possibly purloin them for their own nefarious uses.  And talking about nefarious matters, guys who actually work for agents for rewards - whether monetary or otherwise??!! Jeez – we do have all sorts don’t we??!!

Then I look at myself.  Have I got some kind of gnawing need that drives me time and time again to go back here? Even did a mental checklist to see if I was missing something about myself
-        Happy, fulfilling family/SO/Kids – check
-        Good sex life/romance in and outside of marriage – check
-        Variety of experiences and ladies – check
-        Accomplishments in life – check, even more than I deserve actually
-        Financial stability – check – but can never have enough can one??!!
-        Health – OK, but that’s to be expected at my age ain’t it?!
-        Friends – lots of good friends that I’d never want for companion anytime
-        Good/fair/responsible to my friends/family – check
-        A busy, productive and meaningful life – check… I think!!
-        Other enjoyments/interests, say travelling, reading, food, games, gym, watching TV, golf, recreational gambling, community service
          etc – check (actually too much, to be honest)

(apologize for boring you with what I think of myself - probably sounding a bit self-indulgent in the process/something which I really should just keep to myself - but I DO want you to know that I HAVE given this matter a lot of thought!!  So .....Sorry again!!)


So WHAT is it that makes me come back here obsessively? And some of you guys too – why do you guys come on here!! WHAT???!!!  WHY??!!
Welll…it was when I was reading that piece (BTW – it’s a real nice essay by the winner of the RTHK/SCMP Top Story Competition in today’s Sunday Morning post, The Review pg 12 titled “ A special Gift.” Read it, you’ll be glad you did so!!) that “The Revelation” came to me! And it’s that I do enjoy coming on here as I am able to anonymously share with like-minded people, things that I wouldn’t dare share in my regular “civilian life.”

THAT…is what it’s all about!! I mean, one can only do “it” so many times in a week and so many times in a lifetime; but to have to keep it all quite a secret at all other times is quite a joyless thing ain’t it?  That’s why my uncle loves to regale me with his stories, that is why sometimes I do have discussions about mongering with my real life buddies – but sooner or later, even good buddies will start to think something’s not quite right with Sean if all he talks about is sex, mongering, quality of gals/experience etc etc – right? Even with some of my mongering buddies. A “normal guy” has got to have a balanced life and not just be continually obsessed with sex – right?  But sex and mongering etc HAS been and is  such a huge part of my life up to now AND I AM quite obsessed with sex…. and I betcha most of you guys here are too – right??!  So perhaps it’s a need I have, to share what I do know (not much actually) about things relating to sex and mongering! A know-it-all TOO sometimes…..I know, I know!! But it’s such a liberating thing to be able to just discuss mongering and raw SEX – ain’t it??!!

The above….or else I really just need to get a life!!
And so I come back on here………. time and time and time again………. Sigh!!

SEAN Sweet Swede

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it's good to be introspective every so often. take inventory. find out what's important to u, and what u just THINK is important.

i like The Hobby. i've been in serious relationships, lived with women...let's leave it at that. some guys are happy just being involved (sexually and otherwise) with one woman, and i salute them.

but that's not me. perhaps it's in my DNA, or perhaps because i was a nerd in high school--cd not play sports and disliked that whole mentality, socially awkward, girls wd laugh at me. this at a time when i was so horny i cdn't think straight. i'd watch my schoolmates blossom into these sexual creatures, knowing i'd never EVER have a chance.

things changed, i found a fellow teen who was interested, things got interesting. later on, when i cd borrow the family car, things evolved. by the time i hit university, things were different.

but maybe i never got over that high-school rejection. and maybe i'm compensating now. whaddaya think? any Freud-wannabees reading this?

i look at it this way: i had my chance to have a regular relationship, kids, work regular shifts and pack a lunch. i lived in the US midwest--not near anywhere fun, like Chicago or Detroit. i was stuck in a place i loathed. i had to change...and my life has been much more interesting since.

i chose travel, life in Asia, educating myself as an adult, learning new skills and becoming a professional. nowadays, if i wanted a serious relationship, it wouldn't be like some TVB drama, with 20-something-types juiced up on hormones.

frankly, i don't WANT a serious relationship. i have friends (male and female) and i enjoy life. maybe later this will come back to haunt me, but ya know what: none of us knows how our lives will turn out, we just do the best we can.

but i like sex. i like female sexual response. and i like Asian women. back on the midwestern tundra, there were precious-few. i'm now living in a place that suits me better.

with this forum, there's an element of addiction on my part. but there's also camraderie. i've said since i first got online (in '87, when there were BBSs (Bulletin Board Systems) that merely interacting via data isn't enough--you need to meet at least some of the people yr interacting with. fortunately, i've been able to meet some of the gents on this board and have found them intelligent, literate, gentlemanly, quirky, and as interested in The Hobby as myself. we all have different approaches and, vive le difference!!

with many i haven't met, i still feel a sense of kinship. we're all hobbyists after all. for some, the lure of Wanchai (drama, drinks, late-night madness) is the thing. others prefer exotic women in hotel-rooms. i like walk-ups for the most part, but enjoy trying something new. i've been friendly and helpful with certain girls, but never suggest i'm going to become a boyfriend or sponsor. this means the motto: "you never lose yr girl, only yr place in line" applies to me. so be it.

i'm a monger, i like the info many bros provide, and i return the favor by writing reports and posting pix. i like that the points are labeled "Karma"--guys who haven't figured it out yet, it IS karma. u get out of this forum what u put into it.

it helps that i enjoy writing and test out different techniques with these reports. i've also gotten better at photography--not by much, but a little. again, evolution. you keep evolving as a person, keep learning...some wd say: "hmph! what do u learn by paying some woman for sexual services?!" well, maybe not as much as u wd in intensive language-class, but if u pay attention, u DO learn: how to communicate, what u like, what's surprising...there's always something if u observe. Hong Kong is an interesting place and we have sex-workers from all over Asia and even beyond. there's an ecosystem existing just underground. as it's forever shifting, i love the Japanese term "mizu shobai": the floating world. it's better to float than to sink...and while i plan to monger as long as i can get it up, if a red-top minibus hops the pavement and cancels my contract tomorrow, i'll already have had a lot, a lot, a LOT of fun. hellyeah!!         
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Reply #3326 SEAJ's post

Sean Sweet Swede,

At times it is good to reflect on yourself every now and then. It's what makes us human or rather keeps us human.
Without that self perspective who would we be? We do need to have some sort of balance in our lives between the friends, family, sex life/romance, accomplishments, experiences, health, financial stability, meaningful life and enjoyments. Without these there's a void that we try to fill but that's not always the case.
I find that the secrecy is part of the fun. I keep going back bc I find HK to be pretty awesome. Currently I'm just hanging out at the mainland so when I go to HK there's more freedom and enjoyment. I have to add in too that there's less pollution.
Anywho if you know you have all of those things/people then you should be set and maybe for the moment sex is just the main character of the show. It could be like that throughout life when you think about it. The moment you're born you're helpless and your parents' care for you. That's when you develop trust and love for them. So at the moment that's the moment of family and some experiences. Once you're in school that's when you start to make friends, find hobbies and develop your life style. Eventually you're older and that's when you gain more experience. It's only when you're older that you start to question the quality of life. That's usually when some people are bummed out but not all the time.
Now if you look at the trend everything on that list has the spotlight for a moment in your life. Although experiences are always there so that's a plus.
So right at the moment sex is in the spotlight, nothing wrong with that.
Now why do we come on here?  I'd say we're interested at finding a relaxing person to be with for fun times?
I know when I come on I just have the time to come on. Or maybe I think of the fun times in HK and would like to read more about other experiences. I also like to read what's going on in the Mongering Lounge. Just a way to pass the time.
It's a very simple answer for me.

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Reply #3317 Weelock's post

Totally agree with you on this one. Low profile is always good.

We may choose to think that the authorities do not know anything about punting places like CP. In my opinion, they know all about it. Just keeping quiet about it... as the Chinese would say: keep one eye close and pretend you don't see it. These places actually brings in cash for the country and as long as there are no big news coming from these places, business will go on. But sometimes a show has to be put on to show the world that China is doing something about "unhealthy" business, especially when something big or serious happened or about to happen.

Point in case: The last round of big "clean-up" was done just before the Olympics in Beijing and the Asian Games in Guangzhou. Many of the usual punting places were raided in order to "clean up" the city (and some other adjacent cities as well). KTVs, saunas, night-clubs, you name it they raid it.

It will take some time to recover for sure. So we do not need someone to further create more problems that may eventually reduce the opportunity to have a good punt whenever, wherever...

So I am all for keeping it low profile for the benefit of all punting brothers out there.



Philosophical and Deep

After being away for a while, I noticed the thread has become really DEEP and philosophical... Don't think it's a bad thing though. I personally have come to like visiting here as the brotherhood feel that is emitting from this thread is just overwhelming to me and I like that. I thoroughly enjoy reading the stuff written by all the brothers here, there are things to learn, there are funny stuff to laugh about, help can be sought with a simple question, all our punting woes can be sorted out...and the list goes on.

The only thing now is it takes me much more time to read than before...noticed recently there are many posts that is loooonngg.... really long... but of course most are meant to be educational like the one written by our SEAJ Sifu aka Sean aka Sean Sweet Swede aka SEAJ on Chinese language (profanity and how to use them). Not complaining though, just wishing I have more time to read. I can't visit this site at home and I can't possibly spend too much time doing it at work either. Time is not on my side... But anyway, keep it up bros! We need to keep breaking records!

I may not be able to post punt reports as my punting life has pretty much halted to a very slow crawl due to my own doing some years ago, I still thoroughly enjoy the forum here and is looking forward to the day that I can regain my punting pleasures like before and I am hoping I could see more action this year.


@ SEAJ Sifu
Congrats on achieving another milestone for this thread!

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Originally posted by Tuffbod at 30-1-2012 11:50
Totally agree with you on this one. Low profile is always good.

We may choose to think that the authorities do not know anything about punting places like CP. In my opinion, they know all about it. J ...

I agree that authorities do know what's going on in CP. Places in CP were RAIDED before, like sauna's BBS's and KTV's. It usually gets RAIDED before a major event or CNY.  There was once a rumor a girl was murdered, they closed most of the establishment but it was also just before CNY.

Agreed, the authorities knows it brings in money.  If they really clamped down, CP will be a ghost town overnight. People think CNY is bad for girls, it could be worst if the authorities stepped in hard.

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Reply #3330 Tuffbod's post

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yeah right. this thread become philosophy thread
i hate this !
i hate this !!
but without philosophy, our life have no meaning.
without philosophy, we have no objective that we are aiming for.
loss ourself in this deep universe.

ah...
if only i know how it feels to not feel anything.
i can be at ease thinking about my life after the old age.

if only i know the future.
i will not stress out my life searching for my destiny.

if only i can correct the past.
i will never regret anything in my whole life.

ah... what a poor life i am riding on.
just like the body of the dragon's, lots of ups and downs.
why not be a quadrant and just multiply without having a sharp turn over the edge and fall down to the earth.

is running out, ohhh... how i long for a girlfriend still does not come true yet


sorry for my random rant
i don't know if anyone can understand what i mean by that
just trying to have fun by becoming philosopher too

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Hey Gonuts! I was just wondering where are you!

No worries bro, the girl will eventually show up....

Don't rush it, take it easy...

The more you are rushing things, the more frustrated you will be...

Just hang loose...

Relax and go with the flow....

When the urge is too much to bear, you hands will always comes in handy...that is if you can't find a WG!

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Reply #3331 gonuts's post

Jeez, Bro Gonuts, now I feel kinda bad about complaining about too many chicks demanding my time...  

Trust me, at some point, when you have a girlfriend, you'll be writing little missives about wishing you were single!  Hehe.

In the meantime - have you been using 141 to get laid?  Have you tried a wanchai bar yet?  It might boost your confidence a bit.  And this is important with chicks - confidence is highly attractive to them.  You seem to be lacking this, so maybe trying a wanchai bar would be a good step before you try meeting civvies in soho or LKF or wherever.  Just a thought.

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gonuts   1-2-2012 12:23  Karma  +1   yup :D i live in indonesia. not in HK :P
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Reply #3326 SEAJ's post

Haha, great to hear that you've got everything in life!
You're right, it's easy to become too obsessed with sex. Sometimes it gets so ingrained into you that you have a dangerous slip of tongue, especially when you're trying to show off your knowledge / experiences (kinda like your uncle). Once I was just bringing friends around who were touring HK. When we walked by the bars in Wanchai I was like "so this is where all the SEA prostitutes work, if you're looking for Chinese girls you should go over to Jordan / TST". My friend gave me a suspicious look and asked "Yo! How do you know all about this?!!"

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For your reading pleasure if you're interested – the little story I was reading
Sunday Morning Post, 29 January 2012
The Review page 12 http://www.scmp.com/portal/site/ ... oks&s=Lifestyle

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A special gift
The winner of the RTHK/SCMP Top Story competition, John Smith, describes a memorable encounter in our magical city

John Smith ([email protected])
Jan 29, 2012        

It was like one of those film moments when you want to check behind you before saying, "Me? You're talking to me?"
I was retreating home from the office on a midweek, midlife birthday that I was trying to ignore. Thankfully, no one else had mentioned it, and I was looking to get back home, have a long shower and phone for a pizza.

Separation can make you want to slam the door on the world, and that's the way I was feeling as I crossed the cobbled forecourt of City Hall. I walk past every day, and there's always a scattering of tourists posing for photographs. I occasionally get asked to take the shot, but I was in no mood for photographing tourists this evening. Keep moving, I was thinking. Don't look up and don't hesitate. And that's what I was doing until she leaned forward, fixed me with those laser blue eyes and said: "Can I ask you something?"
How do you resist that? One half of me was saying "I'm sorry, I've got to catch a bus," while the other was countering "of course. I've got all the time you need."
Can I ask you something? I think it was the politeness and the gentleness of her tone, or was it the conspiratorial way she leaned forward? It doesn't matter, unless I want to torture myself for the rest of my life thinking about her, which I don't.
Can I ask you something? Yes, I'm ready for anything.
"What would you like to know?"
"I've only got a few hours before I have to catch the boat back to the mainland. Can you tell me what to see?"
"What to see?" I echoed, buying time while I absorbed the question and searched my brain for an answer.
"Well, the museums will be closed and ..."
"I'm not really into museums."
It was the smile. It was that "This is fun, isn't it?" smile. But why me, of all the people that must have been walking in Central? Well, why not? I didn't look like a gargoyle, and my shirt was ironed. Perhaps this was my lucky day.
"Let me think. Have you been on a tram?"
"No, I've just been walking around the shopping centre." She held up a carrier bag.
"OK, let me show you where to catch one."
I walked with her through flash floods of people rushing towards ferries and buses. When we got to the stop, I told her what to do, but she just stood smiling, as if waiting for something more.
"Shall I come with you?" I said, and the next minute we were on the top deck with the breeze blowing in and the crowds below.
"This is great," she said.
"This is my birthday," I said.
"No!"
As we sat looking out at the shops and market stalls, I wondered if I should have said that. Perhaps it would make her feel uncomfortable. But it didn't make any difference at all. She brushed back her wavy hair and watched in wonder, as though the scene from that tram was the most marvellous thing she had ever witnessed. She was leaning forward again, and every so often she'd turn to me and smile, then return her gaze to the open window and say nothing. I'd been along that street a thousand times but had never seen it the way she was seeing it now. Perhaps the first time had been like that, but never since. Now I felt as though I was seeing it through her eyes of clear turquoise, and the world was a miraculous place.
"This is great," she said. "I'm lucky I bumped into you."
I felt like repeating the words back to her. This could turn out to be the best birthday of my life.
"What's next?" she said when we got off. This time I was ready.
"We'll take a taxi up to the Peak. From there you'll be able to see the whole city in lights."
"Great," she said, and smiled into the distance.
As the red Toyota wound up the narrow road, the thought crossed my mind that I was being taken for more than a taxi ride. I knew nothing about this young woman except that she was in her mid-20s, had been sent over the border by her boss to collect clothing samples for his factory in the mainland, and was enjoying her one evening in Hong Kong at my expense. But so what? She'd rescued me from a birthday in front of the TV with a double cheese and salami, trying to forget that my estranged wife had moved in with a guy who was taller, richer and more handsome than I. What did I have to lose?
"I never imagined there'd be so many trees," she said, and the way she looked at them was as though she was trying to commit each one to memory. I thought then that it was because she had only that one evening to see the city, but now I wonder if she had some idea that her time was short and she wanted to absorb everything around her in the belief that she could take it with her. But that's preposterous.
"I don't even know your name." I'd distracted her from the trees, and she turned and fixed me for a moment.
"Cathy," she said. Then, "What's yours?" with that smile, as though we were playing some guessing game that was the most fun anyone could have. She just had this ability to make me feel like I was the most important person in her whole world.
"Tony," I said, and she gave one long assenting nod of her head, as if that was the best possible answer I could have given her. Then she returned her gaze to the passing scene, glancing back at me for a moment, as if to seek approval. Or was it something else?
For me it was becoming tantalising by now. I couldn't tell what was really on her mind. I began to wonder why a pretty young woman would ask a complete stranger what to do in an unfamiliar city, then jump into a taxi with him and drive up a densely wooded hillside as darkness began to settle. And what were my motives for doing this? Was I content to be a tour guide for the evening or was I desperate to find out if I was still remotely attractive to women?
I couldn't wait for the next part. As we got out of the taxi I said: "This is the best bit."
"Really?"
"Yes. The anticipation." She nodded, as though I had reminded her of some enduring truth. "Wait," I said. "We'll go in here first and let it get completely dark."
I guided her into a shopping centre, and we wandered among the crowd. I'd forgotten that sensation of being in shops with someone at the start of a relationship, when you're insecure about how long you should spend looking at something before the other person gets bored. I was aching to put an arm around her, but I didn't. Now I know that it wouldn't have mattered, but I wished I'd done it.
I said: "I want to buy you something." She seemed surprised and her mouth opened a little. It's funny that I can remember all these details now - things that I didn't think I'd even noticed at the time. Perhaps I'm just making them up. Memory can be creative about filling in the blanks.
"As a souvenir of your visit," I said.
"Thank you," she said, with extra emphasis on the "thank". It was stated so sincerely that I can still hear her saying it.
I bought her a blue pendant on a thin silver chain. It was glass and flashed as it caught the light. I wanted to put it around her neck but the assistant got there first. Cathy must have known how I felt when I bought it for her. I hope she did.
Finally we were ready for the highlight of the evening. We walked out towards the vista point, and the whole city opened up before us like a great open jewel box. At the edge of the vista point, she reached down to grasp the fence rail, then leaned forward as if to embrace the whole fabulous spectacle or be absorbed by it. Perhaps this was the most significant moment of her life. As she looked out over the electric lights I stood transfixed, adoring her. She was perfect.
I had to persuade her to leave that spot. When I mentioned eating, I noticed her grip tighten on the rail. We sat at a table for two, but she didn't eat anything.
"Sorry, I don't feel hungry," she said.
"It doesn't matter," I said. "It's my fault for insisting." I felt foolish then, like someone who has just learned something that has been obvious to everyone for a long time.
She smiled. "I've been so lucky to meet you." An expression of great uncertainty, almost pain, passed across her face. For a moment she seemed disorientated. "Can we go back out and see the view?" she said.
We walked further along this time and found a quiet place among the trees. She reached up and felt the pendant. "Thank you," she said, then turned, once more to take in the fabulous scene.
"Cathy," I said, but it was too late. By then I could see right through her to the trees beyond. She remained a moment longer, becoming more and more transparent until her body stretched, then burst into a thousand tiny stars. They floated around me like little worlds, until one by one they were gone.
For a long time I couldn't move. When I did, it was to pick up the pendant from the damp earth. I looked at it in the palm of my hand and saw Cathy's eyes again. They say eyes are a window to the soul, but that's nonsense, isn't it? Hers were the purest eyes, but she didn't even have a soul.
I turned and stared out over the city. For a while it had seemed like a wondrous place of endless possibilities. Now it had turned its back on me again.
My mobile droned. Absently I pulled it from my pocket.
"Happy birthday!" said the female voice.
"Thanks," I said.
"Did she find you?"
"Yeah, she found me."
"So, did you like your special gift?"
"Yeah, she was great."
"Well, we couldn't think what to get you, and I know things haven't been great recently. So we all put in for her. Aren't they amazing? Jim's workmates got one for his boss. He loved it. Did she look real?"
"Yeah, completely."
"But you guessed, right?"
"Sure. I can still tell the difference between real people and ..."
"Well, listen, I know you didn't want to make a fuss about it this year, but let's do something at the weekend."
"OK."
"I'll call you."
"Right."
"Bye. Have a good one."
I turned and walked hurriedly through the tourist groups. A voice shouted, "Photo! Photo!" but I kept going, away from the people and away from the lights, out along a narrow path to the shelter of a banyan tree, where I bowed my head and wept.

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And just to CMA...for some of the "purists" here - I reckon that the protagonist gal was PAID to carry out the charade...and even though there was no actual sex...welll... it was still a "paid experience" - NO?
Besides which, nice li'l story - YES?!  LOL!
O Lord please forgive my trespasses...!
SEAN Sweet Swede

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Punting life curtailed...

@ SEAJ SIFU

You asked me why has my punting life curtailed....well do you remember my story about sex with an ex-gf? Well, that was the stumbling block! My SO found out about this and all hell broke lose and from there on, she watches me closely worse than a hawk!

That was the killer blow that pretty much put almost all the stops to punting opportunities coupled with the fact that in recent few years I was traveling less, made it even more difficult and opportunities becoming scarcer and scarcer.

But this year, I may be required to travel more often and I have managed to slowly regain the level of trusts needed from my SO...therefore I am looking forward to new opportunities in the water Dragon year! So wish me luck!

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Reply #3335 SEAJ's post

Great story, SEAj.

I got a similar one, but refers to a civvie aswell so cant discuss..  (hmmmm, didnt this story refer to civvies???).  Ahhh, fictional ones are okay.... real ones are not.  Got it.  (I think).

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Reply #3323 scootermonger's post

Hi bro,
just read your entry.
In the past i was often in Bangkok G - Clubs.
I went to Resort, Pent, St-Moritz, Forte, Pegasus, etc. mainly with friends who had memberships.
Also without membership you can visit them, but they have a cover charge (2-3 drinks)
All G-Clubs have stunning girls.  Mostly well educated students.
They make with the drinks so much money that they do not have to go out with somebody.
You get charged by time sitting with the girl (30 or 45 Minutes = 1 Drink). Cocktails (LD) are 600 Baht - 1000 Baht.
2 - 3  Hours looky looky can cost you easy 4000 - 5000 Baht and you have not a silk girl for the night!
A buy out from a gclub cost you 15 cocktails (10.000 Baht up) and if the girls stays with you after for bed Olympics is not sure!

G- clubs are more a market for a long term approach.
Many rich thai guys recruit in GClubs, their mia nois (minor wife(s)).
GClubs are up market.
In their self-understanding, the girls are entertainer and coyotesdancers but not WGs.
Take caution in your approaches.

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I went inside sopranos soi 24 sukhumvit, not knowing what it was.
Their were several glamours around. Although it was very expensive, and no guaranteed to get a girl.
The hostess was very nice and explained prices etc. too much for my liking though and i dont mind spending money

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Hi bro,
just read your entry.
In the past i was often in Bangkok G - Clubs.
I went to Resort, Pent, St-Moritz, Forte, Pegasus, etc. mainly with friends who had memberships.
Also without membership yo ...

Thanks for the tips.  The normal go go's are fun and all, but sometimes it would be nicer to find a " fancier " girl.  From what I gather, the g clubs is pretty much a hostess club, but not everything is guaranteed.  Are there any nice lounge/whiskey bar type places in bkk with fancy hostess/escorts, something like the recent rise to fame, Casablanca?  ( http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... ge%3D1&page=130 )

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