Subject: @**IDLE CHAT, Q+A, PIXS, RANTS ETC. - WELCOME ALL NEWBIES/MEMBERS**@
  This thread has been closed by sexyloser at 18-5-2024 11:11. 
Frenchexpat (Faites chier la vache)
Kinky King
Rank: 5Rank: 5


UID 69773
Digest Posts 0
Credits 1252
Posts 639
Karma 1234
Acceptance 366
Reading Access 50
Registered 14-7-2011
Status Offline
Post at 7-12-2011 11:18  Profile P.M. 
Font size: S M L
Funny when you see that in porns it looks so nice and clean... Nope its not and it doessmell...
In any case, this is probably part of the things I wouldnt go for with a wg.... I say probably because the drunk me would certainly.... This guy actually freaks me out, but lucky hes only out once in a while... Drunkme....
He got me into trouble many times, the worse being a condom break... But hes quite fun!

Recent Ratings
SEAJ   7-12-2011 14:59  Karma  +1   Err..Li'l advise..try 1st w/WG N ONLY if u like it, try w/SO/FB.
cosney   7-12-2011 11:22  Acceptance  +1   There was alcohol involved in my story too...
Top
sneakyp
Carnal Conqueror
Rank: 3Rank: 3



UID 78498
Digest Posts 0
Credits 293
Posts 94
Karma 287
Acceptance 118
Reading Access 30
Registered 8-11-2011
Status Offline
Post at 7-12-2011 15:03  Profile P.M. 
Font size: S M L
WOW

WOah!! anyone got any reports with this girl... she's stunning!! charges alot too 2100!! wow..

http://sex141.com/en/tsim-sha-ts ... luka-girl-4604.html

I'd love to learn more about her

Recent Ratings
SEAJ   7-12-2011 15:09  Karma  +1   Y not U TOFTT?! N reporting back to us? Yup-looks a stunner alright!
Top
SEAJ (***Call me Sean Sweet Swede***)
Banned




UID 21354
Digest Posts 0
Credits 7732
Posts 7074
Karma 7559
Acceptance 3458
Reading Access 0
Registered 4-3-2009
Location Hong Kong
Status Offline
Post at 7-12-2011 15:07  Profile P.M. 
Font size: S M L
Reply #2901 Frenchexpat's post

Just a li'l heads up/suggestion....perhaps good suggestion, perhaps not...but anyway....

If any of you guys were gonna try anal...for whatever reason....I'd suggest that you first do so with a WG i/o any civvie relationships.  Reason being that you don't really want to let a civvie relationship think that you're some kind of pervert weirdo when its only curiosity that's driving you; and what happens if your civvie does like it/LOVE it and you don't?? She continually wanting it and you getting grossed out?

Try it out with a WG FIRST, figure out if you REALLY like it and only try to convince the love of your life IF you really cannot live without it - otherwise the risks are just too much. Just IMHO.

///////////////

QUOTE:
jm322           7-12-2011 09:48          Karma          +2           lol wow. But i am more interested in the gal as she looks real cute.
thebigz0           7-12-2011 09:05          Acceptance          +1           LOL! That takes a skilled photographer.
ulebsari           7-12-2011 04:46          Karma          +4           wow...lol..first pic of a 141 bro who is getting his ass licked. priceless
doghead           7-12-2011 04:09          Karma          +1           SEAJ may be annoying at times, but least we can say he is a clean asshole
JackTheBat           7-12-2011 00:35          Acceptance          +1           cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute!!
paladin310           6-12-2011 21:18          Acceptance          +1           A clean asshole is a healthy asshole...I think.
mrpekz           6-12-2011 19:06          Karma          +1           Damn, I can't see the picture... yet!

Woohooo!!! Thanks guys!!


Now I know what impresses/drives you guys!!
PERVERTS!!!
LMAO!
And doghead -  ONLY annoying??
And ONLY "at times?"
THANKS for the compliment!!
LMAO again!

///////////

Puttting up pics of the stunner sneakyp asking about.
Really WOW!

SEAJ

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 7-12-2011 15:15 ]


 Attachment: Your usergroup does not have permission to access attachments
Recent Ratings
Frenchexpat   8-12-2011 11:08  Acceptance  +1   Sweet mama!
mrpekz   8-12-2011 07:07  Karma  +2   Beautiful!
JackTheBat   7-12-2011 23:43  Acceptance  +1   those pix have been used before in the DB. either a repeat gal or...?




NEED TO RANT? GOT QUESTIONS? JUST WANNA CHIT-CHAT? LOOK AT PIXS? Go to:
http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... d=26766&page=97

A NEWBIE AND HAVE QUESTIONS? WANT IDEAS ON HOW TO ENJOY 141 BEST? Go to
http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... amp;extra=page%3D1=
Top
frown4sorrow
Carnal Conqueror
Rank: 3Rank: 3


UID 74664
Digest Posts 0
Credits 265
Posts 58
Karma 263
Acceptance 32
Reading Access 30
Registered 15-9-2011
Status Offline
Post at 7-12-2011 15:14  Profile P.M. 
Font size: S M L
Reply #2901 Frenchexpat's post

Yeah the smell does sound off putting but if you plan with a SO/FB  you can try to make it less messy.
Plan plan plan and don't forget the lube!!  
Maybe as punters we should carry around our own lube to protect ourselves against possible condom breakages.
I recommend Play by Durex bc it's waterbased and the clean up is easier to deal with  

Haha I sounds like an advertisement       
On a side note a drunk me hmmm I haven't seen him for quite some time. It'd say I hold my liquor well.

Recent Ratings
SEAJ   7-12-2011 15:17  Karma  +1   "Sound?" off-putting? Man, it's actually "SMELLS" off-putting! LOL!
Top
sneakyp
Carnal Conqueror
Rank: 3Rank: 3



UID 78498
Digest Posts 0
Credits 293
Posts 94
Karma 287
Acceptance 118
Reading Access 30
Registered 8-11-2011
Status Offline
Post at 7-12-2011 15:19  Profile P.M. 
Font size: S M L
I think i'd need to save up my money! 2100! not cheap - my report would also probably be pretty boring...

I walk in, she greets me... touched my shoulder and i

haha i'd last 30 seconds with her!!!

Recent Ratings
gonuts   12-12-2011 09:23  Acceptance  +1   Seaj Predict me very well. my report will be like that :P
SEAJ   7-12-2011 15:34  Karma  +1   LMAO!! U and gonuts oughta get together! Really!!
Top
davidlong
Carnal Conqueror
Rank: 3Rank: 3



UID 59236
Digest Posts 0
Credits 403
Posts 154
Karma 400
Acceptance 50
Reading Access 30
Registered 20-1-2011
Status Offline
Post at 7-12-2011 15:21  Profile P.M. 
Font size: S M L
tell you what.. she is definitely PS'd. legs arms, hips, SHOULDERS.. and her skin..
she looks wayyy too good to be true.. trust me I've learnt the expensive way.. (not with her, with others)

Recent Ratings
SEAJ   7-12-2011 15:35  Karma  +1   Photoshop?? Really?? True?? Naaaah...!! LMAO!
Top
sneakyp
Carnal Conqueror
Rank: 3Rank: 3



UID 78498
Digest Posts 0
Credits 293
Posts 94
Karma 287
Acceptance 118
Reading Access 30
Registered 8-11-2011
Status Offline
Post at 7-12-2011 15:29  Profile P.M. 
Font size: S M L
Yeah i agree the photo is photoshopped! her skin is too clear to be real... and all the shading from the photo is a dead giveaway.

but i'm thinking she's charging 2100 i've never seen that high on the site - there has to be a reason? she must be worth the money... or thinks she is at least! I'd love to see some real pics of her.

Recent Ratings
SEAJ   7-12-2011 15:37  Karma  +1   Now U only got 220 more pts to work on! Shudn't take long! LOL!
Top
mkpgsl
Carnal Conqueror
Rank: 3Rank: 3


UID 78917
Digest Posts 0
Credits 317
Posts 224
Karma 316
Acceptance 26
Reading Access 30
Registered 14-11-2011
Status Offline
Post at 7-12-2011 15:52  Profile P.M. 
Font size: S M L
Reply #2903 SEAJ's post

hmmm I actually never thought of it like that hahaha. Things could get really awkward if your civvie g/f loves it and you go limp everytime she demands it.

also wow she looks like one of those SNSD girls.

Edit: SNSD is a very popular girl band in korea with like 10 members this WG reminds me of a couple of them

[ Last edited by  mkpgsl at 7-12-2011 16:12 ]

Recent Ratings
SEAJ   7-12-2011 16:06  Karma  +1   Err..Wot is SNSD? Best if U edit post and spell it out please. Tks!
Top
davidlong
Carnal Conqueror
Rank: 3Rank: 3



UID 59236
Digest Posts 0
Credits 403
Posts 154
Karma 400
Acceptance 50
Reading Access 30
Registered 20-1-2011
Status Offline
Post at 7-12-2011 16:22  Profile P.M. 
Font size: S M L
Seaj, maybe your right.. it can't be photoshopped! nothing on this website is PS'd! they are all naturally stunning and we simply follow the pictures like  headless chickens! 2100 should also include a std test for everything and bareback sex right after some champagne!  $2100.. seriously!? LMFAO

Recent Ratings
SEAJ   7-12-2011 17:04  Karma  +1   LOL! But to be serious abt this, Pls C my post below.
Top
SEAJ (***Call me Sean Sweet Swede***)
Banned




UID 21354
Digest Posts 0
Credits 7732
Posts 7074
Karma 7559
Acceptance 3458
Reading Access 0
Registered 4-3-2009
Location Hong Kong
Status Offline
Post at 7-12-2011 17:01  Profile P.M. 
Font size: S M L
Reply #2909 davidlong's post

Whilst we're on the subject - here is what TwiceAweek- THE senior Mod - has got to say about Photoshopping. Think it best I C+P his post here as the thread he posted such up has only been participated/read by a limited audience (which unfortunately is the case with too many things on this board).
Anyway....Post #9, "Raw photo's"
http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... light=%2BtwiceAweek

QUOTE:
I believe the Owner/Admin of this site is cleaning house ... what we are seeing is the begining of mush less PS in the DB pictures - yes there will be some PS but far less then before - and even though the girls will have pro make up artists do their face before the pics are taken, we will see the DB pictures with MUCH LESS PS and hopefully more genuine. But as in real life, with and without makeup, the girls could look completely different

In the past I would have never imagined this happening (cleaning house) and in line with their new Chinese forum posting picture policy, what we are seeing is a more credible site ... and I for one commend the Admin for taking this step !

And just to round it all off.... I mean about "hardly ever looked at threads" - here's a picture that I saw on my once in a million years visits to the Erotica Section.....hilarious!! (and Yes, I AM gonna ignore the forum rules about linking any C+P of other's - as I find the whole erotica section of limited interest/use/ain't gonna encourage those Erotica mass posters!!)

SEAJ

Ps edit*** Important (I think) Ps Edit!!***

Can someone please advise me if its true that when one sends a PM to another member, that it gets counted as a POSTING CREDIT??   
I mean...I just sent off a PM to another member and I noticed that my "posting credits" went up a notch!! (or is it that coincidentally, somebody Karma'd me up whilst I was writing the PM?????)
Anyway, If this can be confirmed, it SHOULD encourage more guys to get closer and more personal with each other by sending each other PM's etc. WOW!!

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 7-12-2011 17:31 ]


 Attachment: Your usergroup does not have permission to access attachments
Recent Ratings
Frenchexpat   8-12-2011 11:13  Acceptance  +1   Please dont bite it... Please dont.. Ooooouch!
davidlong   7-12-2011 17:13  Karma  +1   LOL HOT DANG!




NEED TO RANT? GOT QUESTIONS? JUST WANNA CHIT-CHAT? LOOK AT PIXS? Go to:
http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... d=26766&page=97

A NEWBIE AND HAVE QUESTIONS? WANT IDEAS ON HOW TO ENJOY 141 BEST? Go to
http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... amp;extra=page%3D1=
Top
davidlong
Carnal Conqueror
Rank: 3Rank: 3



UID 59236
Digest Posts 0
Credits 403
Posts 154
Karma 400
Acceptance 50
Reading Access 30
Registered 20-1-2011
Status Offline
Post at 7-12-2011 17:14  Profile P.M. 
Font size: S M L
no no i know SEAJ, they are doing spring cleaning and i can't wait coz it would make life so much more "monger-friendly"

Recent Ratings
SEAJ   7-12-2011 17:20  Karma  +1   Yes but it'd remove big incentive to get Post credits to be able to C "Real Pi ...
Top
mrfast
Kinky King
Rank: 5Rank: 5



UID 62600
Digest Posts 0
Credits 1237
Posts 647
Karma 1222
Acceptance 295
Reading Access 50
Registered 22-3-2011
Status Offline
Post at 7-12-2011 17:31  Profile P.M. 
Font size: S M L
Reply #2909 davidlong's post

Listen guys, i think in order to check the veracity of her pics, one bro should act as anadvance scout. Lets have the members here pool a small donation each and send a volunteer (like myself) to investigate. I will write a report and do feel free to live vicariously through my experience.

Recent Ratings
SEAJ   7-12-2011 17:38  Karma  +1   Yeah-GREAT IDEA, coz if C's crap, only U wud hv to suffer! Great Idea. LMAO!
Top
SEAJ (***Call me Sean Sweet Swede***)
Banned




UID 21354
Digest Posts 0
Credits 7732
Posts 7074
Karma 7559
Acceptance 3458
Reading Access 0
Registered 4-3-2009
Location Hong Kong
Status Offline
Post at 7-12-2011 17:43  Profile P.M. 
Font size: S M L
LMAO!! An anal guide!!

Talkin' about coincidences (is it really??) and being timely - we've got a bro who just put up a thread entitled

"Pièce de résistance - like2bonk's anal guide"
http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... 5482&highlight=

Really LMAO.... how wild and wonderful our forum is!!

SEAJ

Recent Ratings
Frenchexpat   8-12-2011 11:14  Karma  +1   Piece de resistance... Main dish... Well as long as its on the menu!




NEED TO RANT? GOT QUESTIONS? JUST WANNA CHIT-CHAT? LOOK AT PIXS? Go to:
http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... d=26766&page=97

A NEWBIE AND HAVE QUESTIONS? WANT IDEAS ON HOW TO ENJOY 141 BEST? Go to
http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... amp;extra=page%3D1=
Top
mrfast
Kinky King
Rank: 5Rank: 5



UID 62600
Digest Posts 0
Credits 1237
Posts 647
Karma 1222
Acceptance 295
Reading Access 50
Registered 22-3-2011
Status Offline
Post at 7-12-2011 18:06  Profile P.M. 
Font size: S M L
Reply #2913 SEAJ's post

It wasn't a coincide, like2bonk is just zeitgeist incarnate.

And in reply to your rating - someones' got to do the dirty work. So just past the hat around, and i will fall on the sword if needs be.

Recent Ratings
doghead   7-12-2011 20:16  Acceptance  +1   Ha, u want us to pay for girls to fall on your sword.
SEAJ   7-12-2011 18:09  Karma  +1   I commend ur altruism N true spirit of sacrifice for greater good! LMAO! RIGHT!!
Top
frown4sorrow
Carnal Conqueror
Rank: 3Rank: 3


UID 74664
Digest Posts 0
Credits 265
Posts 58
Karma 263
Acceptance 32
Reading Access 30
Registered 15-9-2011
Status Offline
Post at 7-12-2011 21:10  Profile P.M. 
Font size: S M L
Reply #2913 SEAJ's post

Reply to your rating as well,

I'd be willing to take one for the team. lol. Actually I saw a couple gals that haven't been rated as of yet.
I think I'll sample them once I get to HK and write up a report

The anal guide: It's a good idea for the bros who want to see other options before going up to a WG and asking. kudos to like2bonk!

Recent Ratings
SEAJ   7-12-2011 21:23  Karma  +1   U oughta go to that anal guide thread N give ur kudos to him there.
Top
JackTheBat
Forum Moderator
Rank: 15Rank: 15Rank: 15Rank: 15Rank: 15


UID 56406
Digest Posts 0
Credits 32124
Posts 2124
Karma 31726
Acceptance 7954
Reading Access 150
Registered 1-12-2010
Status Offline
Post at 8-12-2011 00:19  Profile Blog P.M. 
Font size: S M L
OK SEAJ, i'll take the Rimmin' Poison Dragon Challenge!

i like yr foto. i liked it better when u posted it earlier this year without the mutant eye.

as far as anal, yes, i've plowed the Hershey Highway with a WG or two, but only those who suggested it. for them it may seem a wonderful & different place, but to me, it's not that fascinating. on the other hand, i think pussies are magical.

however, that's penetration. i've had WGs want to put things up my butt (at Eden it's invariably offered). i'm not a big fan of things up my butt. some guys dig it, great, u guys be careful as u don't wanna damage tissue in there, play safe, OK? whatever floats yr boat. i don't even want a finger in there unless it's surgically gloved and attached to a doctor checking my prostate.

however, with rimming, there's no penetration. it goes without saying that a bunghole should be thoroughly cleansed before any rimming action. so i'll start with my tongue and her bung: some gals quite enjoy this. i think of Veronica in Bangkok, who reacted VERY positively to my nice flat tongue worshipping her butthole. the naughtiness factor is a turn-on, and with Veronica...well, she was just plain naughty.      

some gals do like their bungs rubbed gently, but they may be nervous as they may think yr likely to ram a finger up there. a fingernail can damage tissue (so can the injection mold-seam on a cheap buttplug, so buy quality kink-gear, u pervs!). they don't want more that gentle stimulation. so maybe not on a first date. but many like a nice rimjob. so remember the words of Samuel Jackson's character in TRUE ROMANCE: "i eat the pussy, eat the asshole, eat the WHOLE DAMN THING!"

OK, WGs will sometimes do the Poison Dragon Drill which is them rimming u. if yr at, say, K-Pressure, on that fun divided-stool in the shower, and yr tech is carefully cleansing yr poop-chute, u might find yrself on all fours later as she tongue-ties your brown-eye. i find it interesting, amusing...but it's not that big of a deal. saw this one tech there a few times who gives wonderful blowjobs, so last time i saw her, she indicated: u wanna assume the Poison Dragon Position, i waved it off, fine, more time with my cock in her mouth.

still, it's something everyone shd try once. and, on my visit to the Red Sash Lounge in Shanghai, there was a specific procedure followed unlike anything i've experienced, and i was not going to stop anything unless i just couldn't take it. among MANY other things, the gal (and she was STUNNING, makes my all time Top Ten list of Gorgeous WGs) crammed a piece of ice up my ass. as i said, i wasn't going to stop ANY activity, and one piece was OK. but the second piece of ice...no way, mei oh, mei oh...she desisted. no problem. i found my limit real quick.

so that's my general take on the butt stuff: rimming a spotless bung is fine, i actually prefer doing it more than receiving itIF the girl gets visibly excited, but if they really wanna give me a quick rimjob as part of the service, fine with me. clocks are usually running with WGs, my experiences in Bangkok were different, so i had plenty of time to explore naughtiness with various dames. Veronica in particular had this LOOK, this knowing smile and eye-sparkle of naughtiness, that was insanely erotic. she deserved the butt-munch, i was happy to oblige.

but plunging my dinkus into a "vacuum-rectum" (WTF is that all about??) to churn some gal's shit into gravy, no thanks. other orifices are much more fun--just one man's opinion.

and...a busted condom, AFTER u've cum in her colon?! bro, glad everything turned out OK. not optimum. but, shit happens.

JtB

[ Last edited by  JackTheBat at 8-12-2011 00:22 ]

Recent Ratings
Tuffbod   8-12-2011 19:01  Acceptance  +1   Damn! That's what i call great write-up!
SEAJ   8-12-2011 00:30  Karma  +3   GREAT- and yes, I 2 believe everybody's gotta try most things at least once!
Top
SEAJ (***Call me Sean Sweet Swede***)
Banned




UID 21354
Digest Posts 0
Credits 7732
Posts 7074
Karma 7559
Acceptance 3458
Reading Access 0
Registered 4-3-2009
Location Hong Kong
Status Offline
Post at 8-12-2011 00:26  Profile P.M. 
Font size: S M L
THANKS Y'ALL!!

Thanks Guys!

The Idle Chat Thread is now officially the

LONGEST RUNNING THREAD ON THIS FORUM!!!  

AND IT’S ALL THANKS TO YOU GUYS WHO’VE CONTRIBUTED
AND KEPT THIS THREAD


INTERESTING, FUN, INFORMATIVE


And specifically

FRIENDLY AND TRULY AMONGST FRIENDS!!





Thanks Guys!!

SEAJ

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 8-12-2011 00:42 ]

Recent Ratings
Frenchexpat   8-12-2011 11:17  Karma  +1   Lets get to 200 pages!




NEED TO RANT? GOT QUESTIONS? JUST WANNA CHIT-CHAT? LOOK AT PIXS? Go to:
http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... d=26766&page=97

A NEWBIE AND HAVE QUESTIONS? WANT IDEAS ON HOW TO ENJOY 141 BEST? Go to
http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... amp;extra=page%3D1=
Top
mkpgsl
Carnal Conqueror
Rank: 3Rank: 3


UID 78917
Digest Posts 0
Credits 317
Posts 224
Karma 316
Acceptance 26
Reading Access 30
Registered 14-11-2011
Status Offline
Post at 8-12-2011 06:01  Profile P.M. 
Font size: S M L
Reply #2917 SEAJ's post

congrats.

even in my short time here, it is interesting to see how the topics evolve from one to another as i have never been really super involved in a forum before. thank you, you guys are all very welcoming

Recent Ratings
SEAJ   8-12-2011 15:26  Karma  +1   N Thank YOU for your participation!
Top
mrpekz
Lustful Lord
Rank: 4



UID 78045
Digest Posts 0
Credits 524
Posts 265
Karma 522
Acceptance 44
Reading Access 40
Registered 2-11-2011
Status Offline
Post at 8-12-2011 07:14  Profile P.M. 
Font size: S M L
Reply #2903 SEAJ's post

Whoa, that girl looks real cute. Where is she located?
I can't believe a girl like that goes down on your ass bro!

@JacktheBat: WOW! Were they like offering to stick dildos into your butt or something there at Eden? And what's with the ice thingy?

After being on this forum, there are so many things I've found out we can do at different places besides fucking a hole. LOL! This community is sure wild.

Recent Ratings
JackTheBat   9-12-2011 00:20  Acceptance  +1   http://www.bkk-gui.de/ede_eng_f.htm
SEAJ   8-12-2011 15:27  Karma  +1   Cain't believe it HUH? Wot, I'm too ..??? to be so serviced? Harrumph! LOL!
Top
Frenchexpat (Faites chier la vache)
Kinky King
Rank: 5Rank: 5


UID 69773
Digest Posts 0
Credits 1252
Posts 639
Karma 1234
Acceptance 366
Reading Access 50
Registered 14-7-2011
Status Offline
Post at 8-12-2011 11:22  Profile P.M. 
Font size: S M L
Well Jacks got a point for me here. I woulndt stick anything into my butt because am sure I wouldnt enjoy it. So am thinking, if I dont enjoy it, then probably she wnt either. But it makes a lot of sense to start with a wg for the first time just to see, I hadnt looked at it from this angle (which is from the back and kind of low... ). Maybe if one day one asks for it, I may give it a try but for now, its pussy galore!

Recent Ratings
SEAJ   8-12-2011 15:29  Karma  +1   Don't know till U tried it at least 1X! Decide AFTER u tried it. Make sense?
Top
 


All times are GMT+8, the time now is 25-11-2024 16:39

Powered by Discuz! 5.0.0 © 2001-2006 Comsenz Inc.
Processed in 0.119015 second(s), 9 queries , Gzip enabled

Clear Cookies - Contact Us - 141Love
Disclaimer: This forum is operated as a real-time bulletin board system. 141CLUB.COM carries no legal liability on its contents. All messages are solely composed and up-loaded by readers and their opinions do not represent our stand. Readers are reminded that the contents on this forum may not convey reliable information thus it is readers' own responsibility to judge the validity, completeness and truthfulness of the messages. For messages related to medical, legal or investment issues, readers should always seek advice from professionals. Due to the limitation of the forum's real-time up-loading nature, 141CLUB.com is not able to monitor all the messages posted. Should readers find any problems regarding the messages, do contact us. 141CLUB.COM reserves the rights to delete or preserve any messages and reject anyone from joining this forum. 141CLUB.COM reserves all the legal rights.