cp141/lowrider,

What I do is I just tell her to f-off after 1 pop (if she is pretty and/or sweet)

OR

Just throw her the sitting fee, get dressed and complain to the mummy/management (she will get a fine).

I notice they will do NO such things if you are regular to the KTV joint except for Mayflower. That place is hit and miss but i still love hunting there. Lots of unpolished gems to be found.

SEAJ,

For the long haul trips to CP I go with Cialis (enhancer) to survive the multiple days.
I guess the most important is chemistry. That is why regulars cannot go wrong. It is the newbie that goes wrong (50-50).
BUT that is fun of hunting and not always farming. New blood.

On the use of ED medicines like Viagra and Cialis - I had a pretty good friend of mine pass away a few years back from what I suspect is the prolonged usage of Viagra.  I'm NOT a doctor and I do note that most medical practitioners assert that ED meds usage is pretty safe, just as long as you're NOT also on nitrites for an existing heart condition.

So this is just pure suspicion/speculation on my part. Anyway this friend used to come to CP for periods of up to a few months and his daily routine almost never varies. 9:30 Breakfast at the Miraton hotel buffet, his morning ablutions, the Gym for some cardio exercise, shower and shave, a nap followed by coffee/snacks at around 3 and a chicken run when he would pick and do 1 girl daily.

He told me that he took a Viagra - prescribed by his doctor in New York -  before each session, thus I presume he took Viagra daily. Anyway, one night after a KTV session at the Fuhao, he couldn't get up and was rushed to CP hospital.  There, they revived him enough for him to go back to the Miraton to prepare for a trip to Hong Kong - as the CP doctor recommended that he go to Hong Kong where they would have the required equipment/skill/whatever to treat him properly.

He never made it and died the next morning - and although I have nothing but circumstances to rely on - I do strongly still suspect that such long term and daily usage of these ED meds may have caused his premature demise at 50 YO.

In any case, I now believe that it is probably NOT a good idea to overdo anything - including and especially the excessive usage of ED meds on a long term basis.

SEAJ

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 18-9-2011 14:12 ]

You are right. Sexual attraction matters a lot. The last BBS girl that I had, I was attracted to her, was able to do it 3 times throughout the night without any problems, eventhough she was not tight. Age is catching up, have to play more. LOL

Sitting in CP bored... waiting for a buddy to go to a new BBS...

I never thought it would come to this!  My relocation away from Swan Lake has upsides and downsides... until I get better acquainted with these mommies, its gonna be a bit rough!

With appropriate apologies, I'm going to C+P a post I just put up on mtmtmt61's GREAT thread
"SHANGHAI - Sauna - Xin Yuping"
http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... id=30519&page=2

I basically am flabbergasted that prior to reading this thread that I had never even considered possible having anything but just getting sex service when with a sauna girl; that I HAD been guilty of treating sauna sessions/gals as nothing more than sessions with a piece of meat. And that there ARE definite possibilities with sauna gals.

Anyway, I thought that this topic is probably something worthy for us to at least idle chat about - and thus my C+P herewith:
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This has got to be the place I NEED to go to and am definitely gonna figure out when I could get up there...just to try it out; THAT is how attractive the place is to me after reading your reports!  THANKS!

And another thing I'm quite amazed about - although I should have realized this even just reading your other reports - is the fact that you could time and again get so "IN" a relationship with sauna girls.  As you mentioned, yes, I do love the feeling of falling in love and will always pursue such with any gal I feel I connect with - but this phenomena has never actually ever occurred to me with a sauna girl.

It's either that I don't visit saunas often enough or else it's a result of my own mind-set when I do go to saunas; that in my mind, what with these gals doing it so many times a day, a week, a month etc that there's just no way that they could have ANY real feelings.  But reading your reports....how far away from the truth could I be!!  

Correct me if I'm wrong - but could it precisely be that there is just too many of us mongers who go to saunas with the same mind-set I have, that makes these gals long all the more for that one particular guy? A guy who just gets in to their soft spot? That as soon as they detect that this particular client is NOT just treating them as a piece of meat, that they feel human...and thus vulnerable?

So many questions from this, now I figure out, actually totally newbie sauna go-er - ME!!  I mean, I THOUGHT I was at least a reasonably experienced sauna go-er - but now I feel like a total noob!

Again learn something new every day!
The darn thing though, is that these days I'm learning TOO MANY new things from this - a SEX BOARD!!
Groan...!

SEAJ

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 18-9-2011 19:53 ]

Of course, Bro SEAj ---- and you know it as much or better than anyone!  They are just girls first!  Sauna girls, BBS girls, KTV girls, WanChai girls.  Whatever...  When she wakes in the morning she is just a girl.  She calls her mom or sis, eats her breakfast, watches something stupid on TV, laughs, cries, hates, dreams.....   

I have had wonderous experiences with these gals from every conceivable location - and indeed it scarcely occurred to me that I should separate them into categories as it seems you've done.  Now, with that said... I pretty much stick to my bargirls these days - but not because I think they are different, but because the barscene gives me unpressured time with them --- time to chat and connect (or not), time to flirt and dance and grope.  All off the clock!  

But anyway....  I've read many of your posts so I know you know this!

while this thread is by nature anarchic, some interesting things get discussed.

as i've confessed elsewhere on this board, when i was new to The Hobby i was torpedoed by a massage parlor girl from Chiang Mai, Thailand. i mean i was GONE. she was sensible enough to realize my condition and did NOT take advantage. but i understand why those guys lose their life-savings to Isaan gals with the "splayed feet" as SEAJ put it.

that's dangerous, but i think the feelings we get when we are firing on all-cylinders are more dangerous. ppl on the board (and guys i know off-the-board) have confessed to the dangers of Wanchai and its delights. its not my scene as i did all that in civilian life, it was great, and had a different degree of danger. but more than a few have told me that Wanchai is dangerous to their mental health/wallet/liver/relationship-with-SO and for every guy willing to articulate it, there are dozens of others who are crawling on the edge of a straight-razor.

i've been attached, non-attached, i've had SMS-death-threats from strangers who grabbed a WG's phone when she was in the shower or whatever, i've smiled at obvious-boyfriends introduced as cousins, i've had insanely gorgeous women give me head while hanging from a red sash, i've had threesomes, i've had outrageously great punts and lousy punts and ones where i wish i'd stayed home and jerked off instead and have actually thrown a freelancer out of my hotel room (her parting shot: "I HATE EUROPEAN PEOPLE!"

well, i'm half-European anyway.

i love The Hobby, the mizu-shobai as i like to call it. i've had wonderful civilian girlfriends, but i like variety. i like being able to set up the encounter (altho i also get a kick when things go wrong and i'm in the wrong room or something--as anyone who's read my stuff knows, i'm basically a Homer-Simpson-doughnut-brain wandering around trying to find, errr...what was it again, oh yeah, poussoir, D'OH!). i like the whole shooting-gallery carnival aspect to The Hobby.

but i have noticed a couple of general trends:
- this is a SERVICE business. we are individual motors, we visit technicians, they clear our pipes/blow our gaskets/tweak our sparkplugs, whatever. we compensate them. sometimes it's a one-time deal, and that's fine.

- sometimes i like a particular gal for some reason and i return. and i've never liked a dame because she DIDN'T like me, thus she's glad to see me again. and in general, things improve--women prefer a known quantity. if yr a nice guy, she'd rather see u than some other guy. if service is good, why not repeat the experience? bring the gal some small snacks/gifts. they appreciate it.

- and of course, they're women. many like sex, some like sex A LOT. and if they get comfy with u, they end up having as much fun as u. i'm a believer in treating gals like a gentleman: smile and joke, don't fuss about whatever as long as the general experience is working. that said, this "no touching my breasts" thing...i just don't get it. wd u go in for an engine-tuneup if the tech said "oh, no using of wrenches is permitted"?! of course not!! well this hobby is wenches-not-wrenches--show up in reasonable shape, get properly washed, be properly silly and attentive to her needs and there shouldn't be any major problems.

mongering in HK is unique, and i appreciate the variety and fact that i, a non-Chinese-speaking gwailo, am accepted and treated well in this particular pond of the mizu-shobai.

rants don't end, they just stop.

JtB

[ Last edited by  JackTheBat at 19-9-2011 23:59 ]

Guilty as charged!

Until I read mtmtmt's "affairs" with so many sauna girls - I really never thought it desirable or even possible to actually have longer term relations with a sauna girl.

As far as treating them like just pieces of meat, not really THAT bad, but my attitude had always been that they really were there to please me with just pure sex; so there's really no emotions at all in the whole procedure. LOL!! Procedure! I actually DID use the term procedure writing that last sentence didn't I?? Just like a doctor doing a procedure or a barber giving me a haircut!!  

LOL!!  
Man - my mind's blown!!

SEAJ

I have the same mentality, with sauna girls, I am really looking for PSE, so I am not really there to find GFE. Just want to have a good session and be serviced. With BBS girls, as I tend to get them overnight, I find it easier to develop a relationship. Having said that, my last trip to the Zhuhai sauna, I did meet a nice one, am still chatting with her on QQ from time to time and am going back to see her my next trip. Will see if she would do an overnight.

Hey coqhk, how do you bring up the overnight to the BBS girls?  Do you get one pop then decide if you wanna ON them after?

How's your mandarin?  I find it difficult to build rapport with BBS girls because their English is generally lower level than at a KTV and the duration of interaction is also much shorter.

Apart from Night Market. I have not repeated a BBS girl.

Mates,

i struggle a bit with my report http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... =page%3D1#pid376903 on Sophie and Kamilla Dee in general. I wanted to add some pictures from the slightly hidden entrance, the bell and the rooms but somehow the size and numbers of the pictures don't do what i expect. Girl pics are sized correct but my own pics are way to big. How can i make them smaller and why can't i put newly added pictures in the text?

Thank you very much in advance!

I don't know if it is true but the rumor is after leaving the hospital, he did a girl that night ST. Then in the morning they left for HK.  

I miss the guy, my mongering buddy.  Most of the old time mommie know him very well and the story.  

I was told by the guy who is a doctor that visits CP from time to time from the USA, take three different drugs if you can.  For example, take Viagra one day and the next day take Cialis. The third time, take something else that is natural or herbs. Even try not to take anything and do it naturally.  If you keep taking the same drug, you will eventually build an immunity to the drug.  It will take more and more for it to work the next time. Like, it might take 2 pills rather than one pill to get the same effect.

Quote from JtB

"but i think the feelings we get when we are firing on all-cylinders are more dangerous. ppl on the board (and guys i know off-the-board) have confessed to the dangers of Wanchai and its delights. its not my scene as i did all that in civilian life, it was great, and had a different degree of danger. but more than a few have told me that Wanchai is dangerous to their mental health/wallet/liver/relationship-with-SO and for every guy willing to articulate it, there are dozens of others who are crawling on the edge of a straight-razor."

Warning:  this is going to sound somewhat indulgent or even silly.  But Bro's who've stuck in WanChai for a time, or Pattaya, or another similar den of sin might understand.

Ya know..., after my years in HK and going full-cycle on the WanChai scene (avoid>taste>indulge>gorge>over-indulge>vomit>purge>sample-with-caution>relapse>hehe) I have come to view WanChai as almost a "force" - one that brings your dark-side to the surface (if you let it) and wants ALL of you.  Inhibitions and cautions and "normal" reality fall away one by one.  Once you mentally get past the chaotic decadence, things you've llikely avoided your whole life slowly become exactly what you want.., what you deserve even!  A rock-star lifestyle, complete with the substances and groupies, awaits you right over there -- and YOU deserve it Rockstar!  (No, I am not big into "substances" myself).

I've seen guys (bankers, pilots, etc) disintegrate before my eyes over the span of the last 3 years.  From happy, professional, over-achievering family men to drunken unemployed barflies.  Almost unrecognizeable.  I think this trait was always in them.., but normal, responsible life (family, career, etc.) kept it away and at bay.  But Wanchai pulled it from some dark-recess of the brain and forced it into the frontal lobe.

A good mate said to me yesterday - "If I was single here in HK I would be dead in a year".  He might have been exaggerating, but he wasnt joking...        

So..., sample with caution.

(yeah, a little melodramatic....  kinda got on a film-noir mode...)

[ Last edited by  wander at 20-9-2011 16:59 ]

Hi SEAJ,

Thanks for your Advice!

Thanks for your Points!

Thanks for your AWESOME pics!

Thanks in advance for all your future advice you can offer me!

Hopefully, I can thank you in person when I finally can make it out to the Far East!

Lastly, would you be so kind to offer me your 2 cents on when is the best time to visit? How is visiting during the Canton Trade Fair? Is CP super busy then?

Thx!

Lastly Thanks for this Kool Thread so that I can ask these questions!  It's weird but I have to admit that this thread is like Family, sometimes with the advice that you give SEAJ, some like myself will consider you closer than family! Except we have never knowingly met in person.

Yes, I usually do a ST first and see the girls service and attitude. If she is not good or has an attitude, I move on and find another ST until one that click. Of course, I wont try more than 2 a day. If I still cant find one, will go to the sauna or KTV to look for one. Bringing up overnight is easy, I just ask them to stay overnight. With the BBS business quite bad lately, most will stay overnight, unless you get a hot one with many regulars. Luckily I can speak Mando, although I cant read and write.

Just use any picture editing program, like paint for example. Go to Resize, first select 50%, keep the box checked for Maintain Aspect Ratio, it will reduce the photo by 50%. If it is still too big, reduce it by a further 50%, if you have gone too much, you can always undo the last action by clicking Ctrl Z, and then redo it with say 20% or 30% reduction. Just trial and error. Once you are satisfied with the size, save it as a JPG, it will reduce the file size of the photo from the Mb to Kb.

Anybody here been to ankara, turkey? Might have to make a trip there? Search the site for info but didnt come up with anything.

WOW! So many posts from so many guys!

And that's the reason why my rating comment to you is to thank you ON BEHALF OF ALL OF US - including yourself!  For indeed, this thread is what so many of you guys have made it to be - and I'd like to think a li'l corner where we all can AND DO feel the spirit of Camarederie and easy familiarity.

So, really, THANKS TO ALL OF YOU!
I'm off on a trip to the first part of October and will perhaps NOT be on as much as usual - so you guys keep this thread up and meanwhile - HAVE FUN on here!!
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On a trip out here during the Canton Trade Fair - yes, unfortunately a lot of guys (too many actually LOL) DO come out this way during this twice a year event and invariably everything is over-crowded and prices for things like Hotel rooms - even in Chang Ping rises...and that is if you can get a room!

If you're planning to come out then, I would highly recommend you making your bookings etc early - even for KTV rooms or else, just rely on these agents operating in CP; they seem to be abe to get everything!! Otherwise, periods NOT coinciding with the Trade fair is probably best.
And BTW you should also avoid periods just before/after Chinese New year as the girls go home and that period can also be a bit frustrating for the mongers!
But otherwise, Winter is probably the best time to come out here as its just too hot and muggy during the Summer IMHO.
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here's a list of web based reducing programs:

•online-image-resize.kategorie.cz
•shrinkpictures.com
•resizr.com
•resize2mail.com
•resizeimage.4u2ges.com
•picresize.com
•pxn8.com
•snipshot.com

You may also want to read up "Why resizing photos before uploading makes them better quality."
http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/viewthread.php?tid=23008
as well as a discussion we had on picture size "Sorry - gotta complain! ForCrissakes - downsize your pixs!!"
http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... ghlight=&page=1
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jc8136  - Specific to your question as to why you couldn't upload some more pictrues - its PROBABLY that you have reached your maximum up-loading quota for the day.
Why don't you try doing so tomorrow, and I'm pretty sure you should then be able to do it then.
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locus58 - you should check out Internationalsexguide dot you iknow what - They've got good coverage by each area and as such, you should be able to get some info on Ankara there - or indeed - about most other locations around the world.
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coqhk - you may want to also try a ploy I many times use with BBS gals.  
On slow week-days, I'd go and chose a gal and make a deal to take the gal for a price in-between the ST and O/N rates - so if say its 200/500, I'd tell the Mommie and the Gal (important - both of them must agree) that I'd take her then, go out and have dinner or drinks or footsies or movies or even just to chill out/whatever, will only pop her once and let her go by Midnight and pay say 350. Most of the mommies in CP are used to me making such a deal and will usually go along with me.

Some though will insist that she be back by 11 PM - as a lot of these BBS's close at midnight and they're figuring to try to get another client for the night.
Just play it by ear on the actual time you promise to have her back at the BBS.

I'd take my time to get to know the gal on my "date" with her, pop her - and if she's good, only then would I make an additional "deal" with the gal; otherwise - sayonara after my pop with her.   

SEAJ

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 20-9-2011 21:15 ]

question, why does my subscribed thread kept missing from my subscription list? sorry if this is random, but I'm getting annoyed with how there's no easy access to my fave threads. am I missing something?

Thanks SEAJ, it is a good ploy. I think now is a good time to try this, but too bad I am not there. I was chatting on QQ with a BBS girl, she said business is very bad, not much customers coming in. When business is bad, they are more incline to accept offers.