IMHO - the maximum OPTIMAL number of gals to sit with you at a KTV is just 2, where they'll need to "compete" for your patronage that night.

Any number above that, the girls see their chances at too small a percentage i.e. if there's 5 of them, each one's only got a 20% chance of being bought out for ST/LT - so most of them will just figure - why bother?! On top of that, only 1, max 2 at either side of you at a time is gonna have your attention - and the rest is gonna instead be chatting with each other, wander off to talk/send sms etc on the phone or just sit there blankly...all on your dime.

Nah... not party like a Rock Star IMHO

SEAJ

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 5-9-2011 23:46 ]

I dunno, flip side of the coin is they think you're a RockSTAR and have Maos up the wazoo so each of the gals will try to vie for the right to spend the night with possible big tipper.  If a guy's generous enough to sit 5 gals, he'll perhaps be generous throughout the night.

Or even perhaps the guy takes two gals out, does a double, and in this case, both girls know each will do half of the work.  It could be pretty easy since guys shoot once at night and once in the morn.  
Fill us in, cp141.  Show us how it's done!  

That depends on who you are.  I can get a party more popping than BSD himself. You go 3 on 3 partner and tell them you want a smart dj to play some fast songs and to keep the vendors out.  You can also play 1 on all 6 and you show them you have the skills to beat them all on whatever games 10-15 lucky  liars dice  Once you need to pee you go to the bathroom with one of the girls and
Watch them pee or dry hump them if you like.  Have to be ham sup in CP.  You come back out and switch places with the other girls so you have new partners.  You hope the other 3 partner loses so they get drunk so you don't have to. You get them all fucked up the  all of the sudden  the djs and managers want to come in and play too.  But If your good at lying they will all lose haha!  Only thing is CP KTV closes down around 2 and dead at 3. Not good if I want to keep playing until morning....    one thing to keep in mind is not to be shy.  If you got partners sitting next you make sure you hold their hands or hug them to make them feel warm ..... At the end of the night pickthe girl  to overnight who gives feels up on you the most and gives you the most smiles. The rest pay them 300 or 200 sitting depending on their sitting fee . No need to tip.  Or if you are daring and lucky to sit two "sisters" then double fly them

wow! 5 girls! I thought 3 some is plenty for me, can't imagine entertaining 5!

but yeah, I'm agree with SEAJ, it does sound like a rockstar experience. hardcore!

was thinking of having 3some the other day in HK, but then again, I've read that it's illegal to have more than 1 on 1, so I bail out. looking forward to try hotel call up next time though, the girls around TSS area are surely looking hot!

YUP - it DOES depend on who you are.
But the one thing you do NOT want them to think is that you are a sucker who just needs to be humoured and the $$ flows out!!

And unfortunately, CP is getting more and more guys who's out here for their once a year or even 2, 3 years trip, living it up whilst they're here (as they rightly should do I guess, since its such a rare occassion for them to do so) and just driving prices higher - and worse, girls' attitudes Southward!

I always believe in moderation and NOT go overboard one way or the other; but that is just me I guess!!  

SEAJ

You believe in moderation like I do because we do it on a regular basis. But guys who come here for a short time really like to live it up and feel like kings. Its expensive, but if you knew that in a few days you would have to go back to a boring mundane life, trust me, you would do the same! I most definitely would!

lucky you and SEAJ who can do it on regular basis! I'm completely new to 141 and I want more! the girls are pretty, and price is cheap. Compared to having one of those girls here in Indonesia, it's so expensive (for comparison, a HKD300-500 141 walk up girl can easily top IDR1.000.000 (ard HKD800) here. pfft. then again, I guess that's because they are extremely rare. So yeah, it is better to do it in HK when it comes to beautiful chinese girl

next time I visit HK hopefully I get more time though.

so with everyone's expertise do you think hong kong is one of the best places to have these sex services. Are there anywhere else in the world that has the selection hong kong?

You win some, you lose some. We all had these times when we had a lousy service or not up to expectation. Just move on to the next one, and forget about the lousy ones. Just dont go back to the lousy ones again. LOL

Got an idea from my rating comment!!

Really...why don't you guys start up an Indonesian-centric Idle chat type thread? Where you guys can pool and share mongering information on your country's "action" - and those of us travelling there would know to just go to that thread to get all the information needed.

Blok M, Saunas, KTV's, Tiga-Puluh, Stadion even outside of Jakarata places Dolly's Surabaya, or Bali, Semarang etc - would be a GREAT resource center for you guys as well as others here. And even for you guys who live in a particular city in Indonesia - wouldn't it be great to know what to do when going to another town/city in-country?

In fact, you guys in Malaysia, Thailand, Singapore, Philippines (DaBEST!!! Calling you!!) etc should also start something like this. This would be a great way for y'all to feel the sort of camarederie that we on the Hong Kong/China sites feels.....and a painless, informative and sharing and caring way to accumulate posting credits!!

And where no questions from us "furreners" is too dumb/is too stupid.....as we really don't know after all!

Over to you guys!!

SEAJ

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 6-9-2011 14:35 ]

@gohdunlam: yep, everyone taste is different. I'm into asian girls (jpn, thai, korean, chinese) so HK is like a heaven to me. but there are people who love caucasian, etc etc. if you love asian girls, then hell yeah, HK is for you!

@SEAJ: good idea. we used to have a local forum for those pics and reviews, but not as good as here. here people share the truth, the experience, the facts and everything. over there, it was more like wanting to show off how great their dick and their sex are. so yeah, it's a good idea. I will definitely try to contribute to such thread. If we have a good thread for thai, spore, or even different cities in Indonesia, at least we can use the info as well. not only for you guys who are visiting indonesia. I'm IN!

@coqHK: good advice. even here in indo I've had some bad and some good ones. I simply take note of their names in my lil black book *kekekek and divide the names into 2. recommended, and not. simple as that.

[ Last edited by  Sexinc at 7-9-2011 09:16 ]

First thing first, I've got to thank and praise you for truly getting into the spirit of this thread and our forum by combining your 3 replies into 1 post. Kudos for your great discipline so early in your "career" here on our forum!

On the Indonesia Forum idea, why don't you start it off?
I'm quite sure that others from Indonesia will just naturally "join-in" - especially those who had written previous reports on their experiences; they could provide a short summary/introduction of the report on this forum and then post up a link to the actual reports - and starting with that, I'm sure there will be further discussions as what happens on here.

So...you game??
I don't know much about Indonesia, but I will try to help out wherever/whenever I can.

Thanks
SEAJ

@silverbird: yes of course there are cost included. I'm not saying that I mind with their fee here in Indo, I'm saying that compared to here, these beautiful girls are more affordable in hong kong. It wasn't a complain jpn and korean girls can cost up to 1000+ in HK as well, but back in their country, they might be more affordable (due to competition and all ) all good?

@SEAJ: 3 replies into 1 post is just a common forum habit I had. I'm sure those who have been active in multiple forums will know this, but thank you for your praise glad that I can start my "career" here in a good way LoL

I would, but I'm not too sure how to start it. A single thread titled "Indonesian Mongering?", should it be divided per city? or should the city just be mentioned in the title so it's easier to search for a particular city later on? I figured you would know the best way to start the thread. I've seen some Indonesian review over the board, but only very few of them. Didn't want to start wrong and create a mess.

[ Last edited by  Sexinc at 7-9-2011 09:15 ]

@SEAJ: will try and start one then. thanks for the support

Jeez - just realized....the dearth of pictures on here!!

What TRAVESTY!!

Some more pixs of Xiao Xiao as well as her recommendations to me - one a do-anything gal and another a Mommie who don't really need more clients as she's well sought after being the genuine squirter that she is!!

More pixs on my thread "How truly loyal some Chinese girls can be – incredible! REAL PIXS" - http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... 3060&highlight=

Ooops! Sorry for pimping my own thread - but you guys ain't doin' it for me!!  LOL!

SEAJ

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 7-9-2011 14:13 ]

Kinda off topic,

but read something about being a baller in the ktv room, and playing the liars dice game.

I really wonder if there's an optimum strategy here, where you can win on the long run
I mean, think about it, if you win more, the girl drinks MORE. Eventually she's more tipsy, and a GOOD chance of
being fun company.

Whoa Dere!!!  IMHO, definitely NOT a good idea to try to use drinking games except if it is just to brighten up the partying mood - for quite a few reasons:

- Most of these KTV gals are already hard-core drinkers and I'd opine that even if you can make her drink twice as much as you, you'd probably end up more drunk than her.

- Drunks - male or female - comes in several different varieties - but you do NOT want to end up with a Mean/aggressive, or Pissy-Cry/temper-tantrum throwing, or get sick/throwing up, or just passed-out, or .... KTV gal Drunky.

- You also do NOT want your KTV gal to pretend (whether she really is or not) to be drunk and insist on being "let go" - as a lot of these gals DO use this excuse to be able to sit at another sitting/go and service a generous regular/go home to their pimp B/F etc.

- I'd suggest that these KTV gals are so good at "liar's dice" that it'd really be hard to beat them at their own game; if you really want to get the better of them, suggest other games which is NOT that popular with PRC KTV gals and which you can probably practice on before hand - i.e 15-20, One-Two Ji-Ji Cha, Choi-kuen etc etc

- Drinking games also will result in a much higher total bill as the amount of liquor consumption goes up quite dramatically.

- If you think you can sort of "control" the amount your choice of the night should be drinking to reach a euphoric state and NOT go over it, then you can instead ask her to help you out with the drinking i/o you drinking (in a game where there's more than you and her). If she does not comply, tell her that if you get too drunk, it takes you forever to come or you get real mean or you just pass out without taking anybody out. Any one of those excuses will make her want to "preserve" you for the night.

SEAJ

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 7-9-2011 16:22 ]

As for the girl getting too drunk.  If she tries to pull that shit on you, just tell her to wait it out on the couch away from everyone else rather than letting her go.


The girls tend to cheat at liars dice!

A couple tips to even the playing field for you:

1.  Impose the rule that you can only look at the dice once.  Some people showed me that each time they look at the dice, they can switch one of them to almost any number without you evening realizing!

2.  Proper Seating.  If you are sitting 2 girls (the optimal number) for liars dice, do not sit between them.  Try to position yourself at the edge of the group so that they cannot easily look at your cup.  

3.  Some KTVs have mirrored finishes on the tables, do not put your cup over the mirrored finish for too long, the girls will look and see what dice you have (the opposite side of the die will always add up to 7.  If you see a 2, the top is a 5, if you see a 3, the top is a 4.

** You can use #3 for your advantage and continue shaking until you get several 1's or several of the same kind.  Just make sure the girl doesn't see your dice! **

** You can also use #3 to check the girls dice **

4.  If playing head to head, a good strategy is if they start with 3 of any type, for example  3 6's.  Just say 3 6 zai.  This assumes they have at least one of the number they have played and they will assume you have at least 2 for saying ZAI.  if they add to 4 of the same type, open them unless you have 2 of it!

[ Last edited by  JustSeven at 7-9-2011 16:35 ]

I'd like to chat a bit about report writing and the little mistakes I see guys doing which penalize - or at least limits - their reports' K gathering potential.  Hopefully this will aid you in perfecting your own reports - and definitely I'd also like to invite others' suggestions on better report writing.

First of course I'd like for you to look at the "template" and suggestions I made on report writing on the "suggestions/Guide for Newbies thread" post #25, http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... age%3D1&page=2.
Quite wordy and probably covers too much -but please note that I meant it only as checklist which the OP can use to remind himself if he wants to use a particular point or not etc.

Case #1
Then I'd like to further this discussion by pointing out what I FEEL is wrong with a particular report by referring to this:
$380 angry girl at fullservice sauna @ guomao subway/SHENZHEN
http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... 3197&highlight=
And I truly hope the OP of that thread will not take offense as really, he does NOT deserve any particular criticism.

Anyway, what do you guys feel about this particular thread?
To me OP's put in a lot of work into it, tried to embellish it quite well, given OK detail, even tried to put in some humour - and yet it has NOT gathered as many K's as one would normally expect to see for such effort. In  fact, I even see him actually getting docked a K point! OUCH!

And I can only conclude that his attempt at humour probably just fell flat/back-fired and instead labelled the OP as an uncaring and selfish monger bereft of any feelings for another human being. I mean, even I was gonna give him some K's, then backed off as I said to myself - Whaddya expect for your lousy RMB 380 ForCrissales? Mebbe if you had been a bit more gentlemanly, the whole thing would have turned around 180 degrees!"

Anyway - you guys see other "areas" where we all could do better with our own report writing?

Thanks

SEAJ

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Case #2

My own threads!!
Please look at these 2 recent threads of mine
1) School teacher turned to WG – what a waste!
http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... 2854&highlight=

2) How truly loyal some Chinese girls can be – incredible! REAL PIXS
http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... &extra=page%3D1

Both titled similarly, both out about the same time, both a bit of a sob-sob story, both with all sorts of details, both with LOTS of pictures which I add to periodically - the last ones being today, and both told similarly by the same guy - me!!

And yet, 1) has gathered a WHOLE lot more readership, karma points and replies running 5 pages whilst 2) barely can stay on the first page!!
And 2)'s even got lots more revealing and pictures of different gals etc - AND that I have even been trying to promote it here as the above post #2215 + more pictures.  
Why's that??
The only thing different I can detect is that 1) is posted in the Mainland China section while 2) is posted in the Monger's section.
Strange!!!  
Or am I missing something here/cain't see my own fatal mistake as I'm too close to it?

OK - guys, fire away!!
Tell it to me like it is ... with thanks beforehand!
SEAJ

Ps edit
Just to point out the stark difference in  reaction to the 2 threads, some stats as of this writing:
1) 81 posts (25 mine) 121 karmas awarded ( Thanks guys! Appreciate it!)
2) 19 posts ( 7 mine) 33 Karmas awarded (Also THANKS bros! Appreciate it!)

[ Last edited by  SEAJ at 8-9-2011 00:13 ]

@SEAJ: maybe because with the first story, it is related to the heart instead of only dicks. Sorry if I'm being straight, but I love your experience with A Ching. Like I said, it's not only about the sex, but more to the heart. I've seen, and heard people who are being disrespectful to WGs. I'm the type who enjoyed it if I have some connection to the girls. NOT love, but a chat partner at least. I mean, it makes thing easier too if WG appreciate your jokes and know that you care for them, and without you asking, they sometimes gives extra service as well.

It's the same if you are working at McDonald. If you are facing a customer that is being such a pain in the ass, you'll serve him/her badly as well, but if your customer is nice and all, you will give extra effort to please him/her, because he/she just make your day a lil easier. CMIIW.

with case #1, he seem to be proud of what he's doing, and the review turns out like he's the king and deserve to fuck up the WG. I've read some other post about WG with bad service, but most of them are normal, and sincerely recommending others to avoid the girl, but NOT fuckin the hell out of that girl.

just my 2c