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Seperating sex and love

Kind of following on from my previous thread a kind of off-shoot topic, namely as per the title.

How do you you guys justify the thngs we do/discuss on these boards with having a real relationship?

What i was curious about is peoples motivations.

Is it that variety is the the spice of life -  the whole steak and hamburger analogy.  Will one girl never be enough? an shouldnt be enough due to the way we are programmed.

Is it that with a WG you feel you can do the things you 'cant' back home for whatever reason (moral etc) and is the illicitness of it an extra turn on?



Or do we all simple see it as something irrelevant, just another thing that we do, that doesnt neccesarily need to be spoken about or even thoght about when it comes to our partners? Does punting not take anything away from your feelings back home

I myself have pretty much considered sex and love to be two different things, of course we can have amazing sex with the one we love, but equally, who hasnt had their mind blown away by a WG?

discuss
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Post at 16-7-2010 21:32  Profile P.M. 
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I am waiting for uwotextbook to chime in here

http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... &extra=page%3D2
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never seen that tread bfore, may have to go chip i my 2 cents
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Reply #1 liberty8's post

Yes variety is the spice of life. But as you get older, chances are your SO isn't as physically appealing. Who wouldn't want a young numbile body to have as a sex partner? It takes too much effort to bed a young one the traditional way, assuming you even have the ability to pick one up.

It's simple for most guys, sex and love are two vastly different things.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by liberty8 at 16-7-2010 21:23
discuss

what's there to discuss?
sex is sex.
love is love.
they can overlap, they can also be separate entities.
some guys need love to have sex.
some guys have sex to achieve love.
everyone is different and have different needs.

summary:
we are all HORNY bastards who want to screw as many women as possible.
that's why we are all on this forum.

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Reply #5 kaka's post

kaka has the nuts

there is no one in this universe who could have said it any better

i'm just gonna have as much fun as i possibly can

i need to get laid and a china girl needs to get paid

end of story
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by sirtiger at 16-7-2010 21:32
I am waiting for uwotextbook to chime in here

http://forum.sex141.com/eforum/v ... &extra=page%3D2

why am i so famous? and why hunter and that triplewhateverguy hate me so much ...

Fact  is sex has a price tag and love has no price tag, so it SHOULD be seperated, but in todays society, they want us to combine both of them together. Men want sex from female but if they seperate sex and love, then suddenly sex becomes really easy to obtain because it has a price tag.  Society expects us to obtain love first before we have sex, because they want sex to be priceless as well. With that kind of thinking, when u combine something with something that is priceless. It suddenly make sex a big deal. AAA++++ for the females out there and morally good for the society as a whole.


The reality is sex can be bought and very cheaply depend on where you are. Even in big international city, like HK, the cost of single lay in HK is not enough to pay for my plate of toro sashimi. Sex is what it is, < toro sashmi. even then toro sashmi is not enough to obtain love and very far from it for that matter. Society is trying to up sell sex by combining with love but obviously its not working, by the shear amount of girls who are willing to sell sex for dirt cheap.

I know a lot of my guy friends are very desperate for sex, which is understandable as we are all doing our math degree and geeky and undesirable to some.

Of couse in reallife i gotta play by the rule and pretend to think what society wants me to think,.  i tell all my friends that im a virgin , usually when we are together studying we would rant about how we have no GF and is very desperate for sex. Of course in my reallife shell, I always will play along and be like "I also cant kau niu lor".

Love with sex will always be better. That the limitation of paying for sex, cant buy love. While having a steak dinner with all your family and friends and love ones greatly enhance your enjoyment for the steak, but having the steak alone does satisfy one' hunger and its taste pretty good enough by itself.

[ Last edited by  uwotextbook at 17-7-2010 09:57 ]

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If you stuck with one girl, you very selfish.  I don't like real-hate-shun-ships very much.  Love feels nice, but unreliable, girl don't perform while good WG.  Girlfriend see it as cheating.  I see it as always many excuses to do something else.  So I do not rely on gf to meet what I want.

The WG do care who they work with.  So please treat
them with respect.
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Reply #1 liberty8's post

Good post and I understand where you are "cumming" from...!  LOL  I've pretty much "retired" from the hobby now, but when I was really active, about 3~4 times a week, it was turning into an addiction and I had to stop for sanity and $$$ reasons!  

Now back to your question, it's more like a hunger (IMHO) all of a sudden you're walking down a street and see a gorgeous girl walking by and your little bro wakes up, what do you do?  Same thing if you're walking by a restaurant and see/smell some good dim sum/snacks, you would go eat?...  Well this is the same thing, you are satisfying a craving nothing more?  

When one is overweight he/she has to excerise and/or diet, unfortunately for us hobbyist, there is no cure except will power and/or true love so that one doesn't stray... ;)

YMMV but after years of hobbying that is my view!

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Well, I do love my significant other and as much as that is the case, she won't squeal or be as horny or look as good as I'd like her to be in bed, thus our hobbies.
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Reply #9 lonewolf69's post

Welcome lonewolf69,

Thanks for sharing your different perspective.
I enjoy reading about other bros' real-life
experiences relating to this "hobby", and
yours is a refreshing voice.

Two questions: Did you just quit cold turkey?   

And if you're basically retired, what brought
you to this forum?
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Reply #11 Mister's post

@ Mister!!!

ROFL - I'm retired, I'm not BLIND, I living VIVACIOUSLY through all experiences!  I'm "trolling" on this forum because I *KNOW* in a milliion years, I will NOT be visiting HK or CHINA anytime soon so I will not be able to partake!!!  I can participate, answer questions and help others in the meanwhile but even when TEMPTATION strikes I cannot make it into a reality...

HOWEVER - I must say that IF I had the opportunity and I'm HK, I'm going to wait and CAMP out for COFFEE and take an overnight with her...  

I haven't seen anyone as lovely yet or since!!! I'm so GLAD that this is now an ENGLISH forum!!!  
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Reply #12 lonewolf69's post

Well, you're in luck, bro.

Coffee is in HK even as we speak,
so get your ass on a plane and
be sure to report on your overnight!
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Damn Mister!!!

Stop trying to tempt me... or are you trying to pimp her out...!???  LOL  Thanks for letting me know, damn she is one fine looking chick...  I'm worried that if I spend some QUALITY time with her for OVERNIGHT, I might not come back to NY...

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Originally posted by Mister at 17-7-2010 23:36
Well, you're in luck, bro.

Coffee is in HK even as we speak,
so get your ass on a plane and
be sure to report on your overnight!

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QUOTE:
Originally posted by lonewolf69 at 18-7-2010 02:48
I'm worried that if I spend some QUALITY time with her for OVERNIGHT, I might not come back to NY ...

would that be a problem?  

you know what you want, go after it!!

btw you're not trolling, you're lurking.  Lurking's fine, thousands of people are doing it, and you can contribute when you have something to contribute ... just avoid making meaningless or misleading posts (that's tolling!).




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I see it genrally as two seperate things.  I am very happy in my sex life and my married life.  I doubt that would be the case if not for my hobby - and that could pose a problem.
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Reply #6 captaincaveman's post

"i need to get laid and a china girl needs to get paid"

That statement is so funny yet so true.  I couldn't have stated it any better.
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for me personally WGs are primarily a convenience, I don't go out of my way to hunt down a WG when I'm feeling horny, for example I'm overseas and my significant other is not around and there are WGs easily attainable I will do my deed and go on.

one thing for sure it's hard to look at asian girls the same after you've experienced mongering in Asia, now whenever I've returned to the states from a recent trip to anywhere in Asia and see some hot piece of ass somewhere I wouldn't mind getting to know, I'm always thinking in the back of my head how much time and money will charming this chick cost me? If she's the gold digger type like a lot of Asian girls are around here, I just keep a mental image of her for the next time I'm in Asia and fuck the same looking chick for a fraction of my time and money.

Plus fucking a WG is nothing like doing a civi, the minute you walk into the room with her all your options are laid out for you; cim, anal, bbbj for 30 minutes, cof, have her ride you, doggy whatever you want. Civi girls it takes time to expand the the options of what ur gf will allow you to do and not do unless she's a huge nympho.
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Reply #1 liberty8's post

all guys need to "get that edge off" sometimes. Its just a biological function. I mean, in the animal world, we are meant to spread our seed all over and as much as possible to ensure genetic lineage or something like that. Its a natural thing to want to do as many girls as possible. Its programmed into our DNA so I honestly dont think you should feel guilty.

yea, WG are for taking that "edge" off that is natural to all men.

But, the girlfriends have a much deeper emotional connection.

I guess the main difference is.... you can hang out with your girlfriend/wife for the day in day out (non-sexual stuff) and enjoy yourself, but could you really do that with any old WG?

Different tools for different needs.
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Reply #1 liberty8's post

I can do anything I do with WG with my partner but I just want variety, without any strings. There is a term called "compartmentalization" which is quite useful .... like if you are with WG you don't think about SO, just about being in the moment of fucking the WG.

At my age I just view it as a privilege to be able to have sex with 20'somethings, and occasionally have a good mind connection too which adds to the physical enjoyment.
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