Subject: Mainland Chinese Televsion: Hongkonger are dogs
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Mainland Chinese Televsion: Hongkonger are dogs

For those who haven't seen it ye, here's a video of a Peking University Professor calling Hong Kong people dogs on public television, after the recent MTR incident.
I assume there will be a big protest coming up soon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2uINfAKOxc
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That Video was removed. New link here..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?fea ... d&v=NJydwlhvvcc

Many of the people in Hong-Kong and Taiwan view themselves as superior to the Chinese from the Mainland. If you ask me all are pretty much the same as both are Chinese and both can be quite obnoxious and noisy. The Hong-Kong people are quite noisy and obnoxious themselves. You can hear them chatting talking in the hallway in any hotel. They literally will chat all the way from their door of their hotel room to the elevator and back. In Taiwan they local will spit their betelnut paste just about any where it could be spit. The locals in HK and Taiwan see themselves as better and higher class people but that all depends on whom you ask. One ride on the MTR where you see how noisy it is and you will see true local blood. The noise pollution in Hong-Kong is quite famous and so is the noise pollution in Taiwan. Either way they have a long ways to go before they catch up with the Japanese people.

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Thanks for the new link Loveasia!!!
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Reply #2 Loveasia's post

I presume that you are an expat as you seem to have picked up the 'I've-been-an-expat-way-too-long syndrome', resulting from living in a new culture for an extended period of time, and starting to miss your homeland.  Everything begins to grate on your nerves, and you begin to find yourself making bigoted remarks, where you were never bigoted before.

One solution is to move home for a bit.  Then you will find a whole new bunch of irritations back in your homeland - irritations that you never had before, but now notice.  You'll start saying things like - when I was in Hong Kong people did xyz - why are people so stupid/rude/ignorant/uptight here?

Then you will be able to return and accept and enjoy a society for what it is, and not what you want it to be.  That's the way it worked for me, anyway.
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I gotta say while that professor was a bit over the top there was some element of truth in what he said. On the other hand, many (not all) of the mainland rich people get cocky and think they can do anything now that they're rich. I guess it has to do with poor education, just gotta hope it passes with time.
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Originally posted by yazoo at 23-1-2012 08:19
I presume that you are an expat as you seem to have picked up the 'I've-been-an-expat-way-too-long syndrome', resulting from living in a new culture for an extended period of time, and starting to mis ...

Every country and every city has its ups and downs. One can find positive and negative things any where one goes. Those that travel often are able to see differences in different cultures and societies. There are many things that I prefer here in Asia and many things that I prefer back home in California. Pointing a few things out does not necessarily mean that one has "I've-been-an-expat-way-too-long syndrome"
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Many of the people in Hong-Kong and Taiwan view themselves as superior to the Chinese from the Mainland. If you ask me all are pretty much the same as both are Chinese and both can be quite obnoxious and noisy. The Hong-Kong people are quite noisy and obnoxious themselves. You can hear them chatting talking in the hallway in any hotel. They literally will chat all the way from their door of their hotel room to the elevator and back. In Taiwan they local will spit their betelnut paste just about any where it could be spit. The locals in HK and Taiwan see themselves as better and higher class people but that all depends on whom you ask. One ride on the MTR where you see how noisy it is and you will see true local blood. The noise pollution in Hong-Kong is quite famous and so is the noise pollution in Taiwan. Either way they have a long ways to go before they catch up with the Japanese people.

WTF??!!!%$@@@#@!
Yazoo was being way too polite putting it the way he did.

What's with all this hate filled racial crap of yours?
"Both are Chinese and both can be quite obnoxious??"
What - next you're gonna also call Hong Kongers "dogs?"

And to compare Chinese to Japanese? Catch UP with Japanese? What - as a race Chinese got to "Catch Up" with the Japanese?

Likie I said, WTF do you think you are?

SEAJ

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And yes, I HAVE reported your post to the Mods.
We do NOT need such hate filled racist posts as yours.
Does nothing/only causes rancor on ANY board

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Originally posted by SEAJ at 24-1-2012 22:45


WTF??!!!%$@@@#@!
Yazoo was being way too polite putting it the way he did.

What's with all this hate filled racial crap of yours?
"Both are Chinese and both can be quite obnoxious??"
What ...

I think you literally freakin missed the point. If you saw that video in the link you should have been able to figure out that what I was saying was that many of the Chinese get quite pissed off when they are looked down upon by Hong-Kong and Taiwan people while the Hong-Kong and Taiwan people are not much better themselves. There was no racial filled hatred crap of mine but instead a crap post from you. If you did not understand fully or completely feel free to ask rather then to bash someone with a personal attack over a personal opinion. I neither attacked you or anyone else here personally. By stating that people on both sides can be obnoxious does not mean one is racist!! If you have someone like the person in China claiming that Hong-Kong people are dogs and people in Taiwan and Hong-Kong claiming that Chinese are dirty I see that both can be obnoxious with their comments and neither side is better than the other. Just like you are entitled to your opinion others are entitled to their as well.

My link was meant to show that while there are people in China who make negative remarks about the people in Hong-kong there were people in Hong-Kong as well that look down on people from China and those that looked down on others are no better themselves than the ones that they look down on.

WTF?%$@@@#@! with the personal attack???

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Reply #8 Loveasia's post

Personal attacks?

What, you think its your God given right to attack ALL Chinese and we're all supposed to just sit back and take it all in good stride?

The MODs had very early on identified you as the bigoted, hate filled racist that you truly are, but had in moderation just left you with a mild warning; but instead of heeding their warning you continue to come back on here with the ranting of the worst of the failed expatriate in Asia.

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Reply #1 Loveasia's post
Please be careful with your tone / how you come across, bro...
Realise that there are a lot of "them Chinese" on this forum, OK?
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you don't remember our beloved Loveasia ?  and all his racist remarks in the past ???

Your handle "Loveasia" is the most egregious misuse of a title that I've seen in a long time; yeah, you may have started out 20 years ago loving Asia, but having had to live for 2 decades amongst the dregs of Taipei in rat infested alleys, whilst having to daily be in physical contact with the triad Tai Lo's to adorn their bodies must be painful. And being forced to perform genital piercing of gals who others here would just pay to screw and discard ….what a toll such a demeaning vocation must be on anybody’s psyche.

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You may be different but I'm talking about the locals in Taipei. My comments are based on first hand experience for 20 years+.

I'm not basing this just on poor people. I know a ton of rich people in Taipei that you could not get them to fork out a penny out of their pockets. I know about 10 landlords next to my shop that collect over $30K USD per month in rental income. If you saw them they would look like bums to you. One of them collects about $100K per month in rental income and you pretty much always see him in the same 60 NT slippers and 100 NT shorts. He was ground floor building manager of our building because he owned one of the shops and refused to replace or fix anything in the building. He said it was a waste of money and unnecessary. When the men's toilet was broken he had it taken out for repair (That Freakin toilet has been there for like 30 years!). He looks like a dirty farmer till this date and eats at what we call the rat house behind our building (Taiwanese food buffet).

I do a lot of genital piercings for women so I know what I am talking about and am not just talking BS. I do 10-20 piercings a day and more then half of them have nasty ear wax in their ears that have never been cleaned in probably their life time. More than half of the navels I pierce have nasty brown stuff in their navels because they never ever cleaned it in their lives because they were taught that if they cleaned it they would have diarrhea or stomach problems and others just don't clean them.

Yes, our forum is free for anybody to write whatever one wants - but don't expect to come on here with your racist ranting - which only reflects your own low self esteem - and for me to not come down equally hard on you.

Look-it guy, I can empathize with your plight, even sympathize with you for Asia IS harsh on failures – especially on foreigners who’d had advantages in life like better education etc and is only expected to do well. But it's like what Yazoo writes - IMHO you HAVE been in Asia too long.

So…in the spirit of the season to mainly wish good for our fellowmen, I offer you this:   Go back to which ever trailer park you came from and really examine your downward spiral in life in Asia before you come back.

Kung Hei Fat Choy!
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by SEAJ at 25-1-2012 13:50
Personal attacks?

What, you think its your God given right to attack ALL Chinese and we're all supposed to just sit back and take it all in good stride?

The MODs had very early on identified you as  ...

I'm not going to get into this one with you. Obviously you love to judge others more then me and feel that it is your God given right to judge and attack others not performing to your likes or standards whether it be the women you visit or the people who post here. Then you expect those that you attack personally to just sit back and take it all in good stride. Remember, you took this personally and attacked me in your reply due to difference in opinion and not due to a personal attack on you.

PS: Let's just leave this one here and not escalate things further due to difference in opinion.

Cong Hei Fat Choi to you too

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Gentlemen... Can we get back to important business and talk about poon-tang now?

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Reply #10 Loveasia's post

I think you are missing the point Bro...

If I can paraphrase correctly what you are saying, it is that Hong Kong people look down on Mainland Chinese but they are "no better" themselves... Is this your point?

Assuming I understand you correctly...

(1) The incident on the MTR in your video link is NOT typical. Seriously that sort of thing is unusual.

(2) Trying to analise a race based on whether or not they talk loudly in restaurants, in hotel lobbys and in the hallway outside your room is nonsense. I spent 7 weeks travelling through Europe last year including 14 countries and I can let you in on a secret... at different times EVERYONE does it!!!

(3) China is a big country with a lot of people. Sure like EVERY country there are well educated, reasonably educated and totally uneducated people. China's recent economic surge has enabled some of the lesser educated to move in areas they are not so familiar with and sure, that can sometimes create interesting situations... but no different than if you picked some red neck out of a trailer park in Little Rock Arkansas and dropped him in down town Manhattan or Beverley Hills.

If you don't believe me... here's a link that might help you see what I mean... CLICK HERE.

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A typical arrogant American... ho hum.

Hehe.  

See how this works, LoveAsia?  Racism is like that.... Your superiority-complex is so clear in your mind you can't even see it, and... (Gotta laugh now) you work in a tatoo parlor in Taiwan piercing dirty navels????  Wow!  Nice career move handsum!.  Shite!   Fuck me...., Imagine what the locals say about you!

Ya know, after reading a few of your posts I though "please don't let this guy be American!".  Damn.  You are.

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Every country has this kind of this, being from Sydney, you get a lot of racism. From the wogs hating the Aussies, to the lens hating the Asians, to the Asians hating the Aussies. I grew up with it. To me It's apart of Australia.

I can see why many Honkies are upset with mainlanders coming to Hong Kong and acting the way they normally behave in mainland China.

I think Honkies see themselves are better and more educated than mainlanders and have always had this passive aggressive hate for each other.

Mainlanders behave in ways that some people as being rude but back in mainland it is their standard ( such as spitting and coughing up phlem) and don't see a problem, that's why when incidents happen like this on the subway. Everyone gets angry about it as both sides see them as not doing anything wrong.

I have honkie friends that are local and some that are very local, I remember one time some locals asked us for help and my friends refused to help based on the fact that they were mainlanders.

Personally, and remember this is my opinion, I am Chinese and I don't like mainlanders only because I see their behavior as rude but I can also understand why they behave like that and forgive them.

I believe that people should be more aware and have respect for other countries cultures. Like when I went to Japan, I researched what was normal and what was rude in Japan to avoid trouble.

I think what the "catch up to the japanese " comment was to show how Japanese people are very very polite to each other no matter what. And you can see what I mean if you go to Japan.

One of the main things I don't like about honkies is the fact that many honkies judge you before they know you. For example. I went shopping in HK when I was wearing "poor clothes" ( singlet, shorts and thong
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I could see that I got weird looks when I walked into the higher brand boutiques. It was difficult to get service until I purchased something.
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That was my two cents an my opinion on this matter. Sorry for multiple posts. I'm using the mobile forum and it's difficult.
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Reply #16 kaiiyu's post

Wikipedia
Wog or Pog is a slang word with a number of meanings, sometimes considered derogatory and, in some instances, offensive when used in relation to ethnicity. The term is essentially used differently within the UK and Australian context: in the United Kingdom, historically it referred to "dark skinned" people and in its modern usage is considered overtly racist and is not used in polite conversation; while in Australian English the term was originally a pejorative for migrants of the 'Mediterranean,'

Urban dictionary - lebs (presuming lens was a typo)
Leb n. 1. An abbreviated name used colloquially for people from Lebanon or of Lebanese extraction, 2. A derogatory name given to people of Lebanese extraction who are immigrants to or children of Lebanese immigrants in Australia and who conduct themselves in a manner conspicuously anti-social and who are commonly associated with bad taste. Broadly, they are people of Middle-Eastern appearance who usually have an Islamic upbringing, have a chip on their shoulder and ........

Honky is a racial slur for white people - and which I as a Hong Kong-er do NOT appreciate being used to describe us in Hong Kong.

In fact, I really object to your liberal use of all sorts racial pejorative in your post.

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See what I mean, to me, growing up around wogs, lebs and chinks and honkies alike. I find these words okay to describe each other.

Much like mainlanders thinking their behavior is okay and not understanding it offenders others.

This is why accidents like the MTR happens.

People just dont see how normal behavior is seen as rude behavior.

Sorry SEAJ, i will try not to use these words around you.

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Reply #18 kaiiyu's post

Its not only around ME that you need to NOT use any racist words.

This forum has conventions AGAINST the use of such words and please be quite assured that there is gonna be others here who objects to the use of such words.

Use of racist slurs - just like the injudicious use of profanity - only puts one's class and upbringing for everybody else to correctly identify.

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Calm down SEAJ, I won't use racist slurs here.

Can I ask a question to you SEAJ, and this isn't an attack just a personal opinion of yours. Do you find the word nigga or nigger racist? I only ask because I don't find it racist if used in the right context but nigga had beginnings of a racial slur but became a word used by the black community themselves. Do you think that it's racist if the black community uses it?

Please answer this without getting too worked up SEAJ. I just wanna hear your opinion.
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