Hi all,

Just came across this study: https://journals.lww.com/stdjour ... ed_Infection.5.aspx

It essentially talks about STD/ STI (sexually transmitted infection) screening rates for pharyngeal (throat) and urogenital (vaginal) gonorrhea and chlaymdia.

So they essentially found no HIV and only 2.1% of syphillis in their sample size 340 girls.

Table 1: https://journals.lww.com/stdjour ... 5&type=Fulltext
Figure 1: https://journals.lww.com/stdjour ... 5&type=Fulltext

What is interesting is that they found an overall prevalence of chlaymdia and gonorrhea infection of 12.9% (44/340) and 5% (17/340) respectively.
When you break that number down further, 11 girls had  chlamydia infection in theiir throat (3.2%) and 15 had gonorrhea in their throat (4.4$)
Urogenital chlaymdia was pretty high and found in 36 girls (10.6%) and 3 girls had urogenital gonorrhea infection (0.9%)
Coinfection of both urogenital chlamydia and gonorrhea were found in 2 girls (0.6%)

If you look at figure 1, 75% (33/44) of chlamydia infection was found urogenital, meaning 11/44 were pharyngeal (throat)
Of the 17 gonorrhea infections, what was alarming to me is that 82.4% (14/17) was pharyngeal (throat)

Can bros tell me more about their stance on BBBJ and CIM?
I love both, but given the state of STI s in these girls, how do you manage risk when getting BBBJ/CIM?
Do you have a rule/criteria that makes you think again before getting a BBBJ from a girl?
Can anyone talk about their positive result STD story while punting?

Just trying to stay safe and make some decisions before coming to HK, so please enlighten me!

To be honest, I will only see a wg who does oral without. I cannot enjoy myself with a covered blow job.
It is very common to pay a bit extra for cum in mouth.

Also "Urogenital chlaymdia " seems pretty high.
Is it down to bareback sex? If it is then Hong Kongs sex industry is in dire trouble.

[ Last edited by  rajuk at 24-1-2019 21:11 ]

While I will be the last one to say bs about your comment. Resistant G is spreading!
Numbers wise though, it is not spreading half as fast as you make it out to spread.

Your chance of resistant G is pretty small.
Indicative but not solid proof. We keep stats in the hospital I work. Only 0.07% of all G cases were multi resistant to common dual therapy. As far as I know those numbers reflect the general stats.

For the pharmaceutical sector and from a healthcare perspective, that is a big concern. For a monger, right now it really isn’t.

Some people in the media are really scaremongering. I say enjoy the bbbj until dying or lifetime illness are relatively common.

[ Last edited by  Saintjulie at 24-1-2019 23:08 ]

It is not my intention to post this as scaremongering.

Another thing to also keep in mind is that pharyngeal (throat) STI swans do not always yield enough bacteria, so there is a risk of false negatives.

Would you guys say there is a difference between WGs in walkups vs hotel walk in girls?

Related questions:

So suppose the WG has a urogenital infection, what are the chances of catching that via DATY? I assume we're all smart enough to use protection for the actual intercourse, but many of us do like to go down on a girl...
I do recall one report where a bro used a dental dam when administering the DATY...

And for the throat infected ones, what risk, if any, does one take by kissing (DFK)?

Chances of getting it through Daty are relatively small. Research I read talks about 1,5% chance. There is however a large margin in this number.
So % of infected x % of transfer = change of being infected doing a daty.
And again, at this point G is still very treatable for almost everyone.
I would assume most of us do much riskier things than daty in our lives.

Syphillis is much more transferable and also very easy to treat. Of all bacterial infections, G is the one to keep an eye on.

According to an infectious disease doc, "Gonorrhea can be present in the mouth (pharngeal gonorrhea) but this is infection is usually not transmitted this way." source: http://www.thebody.com/h/can-gon ... hrough-kissing.html

A specific percentage may be difficult to ascertain given limited sample sizes of studies

Sigh I'm just worried about the risk of a BBBJ/CIM even though I love it so much :/

I feel like staying away from older WGs who have been in the business for a while and just sticking with younger girls...oh gosh I don't know

useful chart: https://smartsexresource.com/sit ... al-Sex-Table-v3.png

[ Last edited by  ENIPO at 25-1-2019 03:00 ]

Hi bros and ENIPO,

Good info and intel from OP and yes the risk is spreading (albeit slowly from the reports in legitimate news agencies) so it is certainly worth sharing but please remember that we do not give medical advice as per the forum unless you are describing your personal preventative methods. eg:

I only do CBJ to reduce the risk
I smell, look and finger test before DATY etc
I dip my cock in Listerine after every BBBJ

We can't, even the doctors amongst us, give advice like "If you do this you will never get an STD".

The short truth is that if you punt, even covered in every situation, you have a risk - maybe more than OST with civvies but maybe less.  Remember LKF could give you coldsores (ie oral herpes) if the girl has a non-visiable active one and you have a shaving nip on your lip........

Personally I will probably never drop BBBJ completely (BJ bars in BK, JP & VN are such a good start to the day) but I dose myself with 1000mg of azithromycin every 4 months and get full tests once a year and on circumstance if there is a slippage/breakage/indiscretion with WGs or civvies.

Not advice, just my personal approach.

Au

[ Last edited by  aurufc at 25-1-2019 15:25 ]

Does dipping your weener in mouth wash hurt/burn?
Do you use a brush or scrub to clean it?

Also done the same a few times, when I got a little paranoid. Doesn’t hurt or sting, but I guess it depends how long you wanna marinate your tool in blue listerine! It’s an easier routine to mouthwash, marinate, and shower at the same time.

Mouth or  LS is wet and moist and thin membranes that can absorb a lot of things,  drugs can be sublingual as can lots of nasty.

Of course risk rise or drop exponentially depending on if you do DFK, DATY, BBJ, BBFS and how far your partners goes with boyfriend or customer with benefits and how many they had.

No different than any other thrill sport from BASE jumping, punting, skydiving are likely in order of death

I know what "burns" like hell and it is anti bacteria gel!! and from experiences too.

I wouldn't advise using a brush or scrub cleaning your lil-bro. In case it scratches and open up sores.

[ Last edited by  blackjack41 at 26-1-2019 00:19 ]

https://www.who.int/news-room/fa ... tibiotic-resistance

https://www.cdc.gov/std/gonorrhea/arg/default.htm

https://rightasrain.uwmedicine.o ... resistant-gonorrhea

https://www.health24.com/Sex/Saf ... norrhoea-20181116-2



Dire warnings from people in the know. It is a very sad fact, that wg's who are money driven will bareback secretly with anyone who pays more.
I frequently see the same lies: "I an clean" "I like you" "I will only do this for you"....
I will refuse to have any contact with them. Since they are most probably infected and do not care. Since they bareback anyone who is willing to pay more.
They will pay with their health.

Thanks for the whistleblower post bro. Cant agree more that it is always better to be safe if you are doing BBJ, DFK, DATY etc. Drug-resistant bacteria are getting more common.

there are enough virus infections that they don't have any drugs for the treatment. So the causes can be bacteria, parasites, yeast, and viruses. Some are here
Chlamydia
Genital herpes
Gonorrhea
Herpes
Hepatitis
HIV/AIDS
HPV
Syphilis
Trichomoniasis

Most of these agents affect both men and women, but in many cases the health problems they cause can be more severe for WG. Another thing is if apregnant woman has some of this infection, it can cause serious health problems for the baby. Even if you have certain virus infection it could cause certain cancers when we are old. Anyways guess who cares when we are old cant go on punting

most antibiotics can treat many of these infections caused by bacteria, yeast, or parasites. But there is no cure for virus, but medicines can often helpwith the symptoms and keep the disease under control and alleviate symptoms.

What we can do is to correct usage of latex condoms(read instructions in the box) and this greatly reduces, but does not completely eliminate, the risk of catching or spreading infection. Try always to shampoo and shower yourself and make sure the girl do the same before the start of the action    use condoms for BBBJ as well if possible. Because even if we had many great punts....one infection can make all messed up. So stay safe and enjoy bros!!!

My broscience way or trying to minimize the chance is stick to young Thai/Russian/Mainland that are only here short term.

Figure less bros they've seen less likely they have something... locals that are here months or years at a time sounds like a bit risky. Especially the "local legends" that's been doing this for a long time... that's a hard pass for me.

I also attempt to rinse my lil bro with mouth wash afterwards if possible.... probably more superstition than science I am doubtful it helps that much. To the bros that dip it in mouth wash jesus that sounds painful lmao I just rub some on like soap and try to leave it on for a bit before rinsing.

Do not wash your penis with soap or even worse mouth wash. Your body does a supergood job on its own to ward of bacteria. Washing would increase chance of infection. Ask any urologist or dermatologist.

You must smell pretty bad … have you washed it this year yet ?

Yeah, way to try and pull my comment to the extreme.
I use water and a ph neutral solution from the pharmacist called Saporelle.

yeah, think with your head not your LB.  When Sweet jumps on top of you and wants bareback, shove her off right away. going to be avoiding bbbj for my return punt i guess.

if you don't already know boys, several health clinics across hk give free checks, a little slow though