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Have you guys encountered independent Russia/Eastern European WG at such establishments as Nana plaza or Soi Cowboy?

Hi Bro,

I noticed you can find Russians in BKK on massage republic website.
Hope this helps you.

Obe

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Reply #21 obe's post

where you there when I got practically raped off those ladyboys near thermae?

We were walking from thermae to Nana plaza and 2 lady boys grabbed me and wouldn't let go? they were being quite aggressive.

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Reply #22 Petay_1283's post

Just letting you all know that ALL BARS in Thailand will be closed Friday 27th and Saturday 28th for a Buddha religious holiday and Kings birthday.

Any bar caught selling alcohol will lose their business licence for five years. Some sports bars still open for food but can't sell alcohol.

Note even 711 can't sell alcohol on these days.

My liver is smiling and my body is trembling. Lol.

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Thanks for the heads up Obe!

On the second note has anyone visited Pimp Club?

Keen on visiting but I do not stay long enough to make the membership worth while.

For the uninitiated it is Bangkok's premiere Gentleman's Club both in price and the quality of the girls.

Check out their shows here (of course censored ones haha) : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCAVFY_vOEBfBmkTZQvyD0FA

Any mongers here have a membership? I am more than happy to shout you many drinks if you get me in haha.

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I went to Pimp for a bucks party. Not sure about the whole membership thing as I was not the organiser.

We were a decent group in size so we had  our own private room
Girls come in and you pick one and though out the night you chat , play drinking games , pool , karaoke.

The girls will go topless and you are free to get handsy and make out with them. Only some girls will let you take them back to the hotel. You can ask the mamasan which girls are available for the post club activities when you choose them.

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Anyone get or use the Rabbit card?

Is it worth it? Rabbit card deposit seems to be 100 baht, so relatively cheap. Does it work on the MRT as well? I think the problem would be as a visitor people would lose money on it, albeit not that much, but there's the convenience of need needing to stand in line buying BTS tickets.

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Reply #26 Freelancer's post

I have never bothered with it as I use the BTS as a chance to get rid off all my loose coins which build up,

Obe

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Russian WGs, "gentlemen" clubs etc

I guess I have a different mindset when it comes to Bangkok (which is what this thread is about, no one's even gone as far as Pattaya yet).

Russian WGs? If you crave white tail maybe Hong Kong's a better bet, although you really should check out a good FKK--yes you have to go to Europe and it's not cheap but I rate things on a value-for-money basis, and the value of some dodgy Eastern Euro gal in BKK is suspect. IF you want to try this route I would go for a high-end massage place in the Ratchapisadek area. Bring plenty of cash.

I read a report on the PIMP club and it seems appropriately named. Apparently it combines the KTV tradition of paying women to sit with you with a known Thai tradition of selling overpriced alcohol, primarily tequila or whatever it is they claim is tequila, all at hefty prices. I assume the women there are attractive, but frankly, finding attractive Thai women in Bangkok is not the world's most challenging task. There used to be clubs on Soi 33, I dunno if they're still there, I never went and it's not my thing.

I repeat myself so often but then again, I read reports on this forum and others where guys go to BKK and have difficult/expensive times, so here's Jack's advice yet again:

1) Dress decently: long pants, shirts with collar, avoid the tourist uniform of flip-flops, shorts, t-shirt...all that. Yes it's hot, deal with it. Wear long pants.

2) Smile and be fun. Don't be that frowning guy. Even if they try to overcharge you, smile and work it out politely. A couple of things to avoid in Thailand: raising your voice in argument, or participating in physical aggression. The latter includes trying to intervene in someone else's fight. Think of it as a karma-game: if you smile and bring fun you win, if you bring negativity you lose. It has nothing to do with "right and wrong" or "the principle"--this is a different culture.

3) Some like a drink or two with their evening fun, but the atmosphere (not to mention cute mostly undressed women urging you to drink more) often causes punters to overimbibe. I read a lot of reports where guys cite "whiskey dick" as the reason they spent thousands of baht to not-have sex. Alcohol dehydrates people and in a tropical climate, this is not a positive thing. Try mongering and drinking soda water, it IS possible. If you read various sources you will quickly discover that problems in Bangkok are often in the wee hours involving people who are intoxicated. I can't tell you how to live, but again, I'm not there to drink--I'm there to fuck and have fun. I do what I do and I go where I go. But when I visit, and when I lived there, I was home before midnight one way or the other. And you can search my Thailand reports and see part of what I got up to--judge for yourself.

There's a lot more, but many WGs have learned that Western guys and non-Thai Asians will put up with stuff no Thai man would ever condone. Buy me drink, buy my friend one, do this, do that. Smile and make a joke of it. If you can learn a few Thai phrases this works better, but if you're dressed reasonably and not going along with this look-at-the-ATM-spit-out-money game, you're already ahead of the pack.

Just some general suggestions. I think the evolved-escort approach (which is what smooci has become, but there are others) might be a good option, but as ever, YMMV.

When I lived there I would just walk around lower Sukhumvit and approach whoever seemed appealing for a quick conversation. The Biergarten on Soi 7 wasn't paradise back then but was at least viable. But I didn't care where they were or what they were doing--picked up a gal buying snacks from a street stall once, brought her back to my condo. Ones I liked went in my address book for repeats. This was long before the African streetwalkers (WTF) and other nonsense so it may no longer be a viable strategy. However, the rate was (and I maintain it still is) a grey note, a thousand...ya know, plus snacks if they turn out to be fun.I made one exception: the half-Thai/half-Egyptian would not budge from 1500 and, well, she got it and was worth it.

But that was me and that was Back Then. Now all kinds of "digital nomads" and people who want outta-the-West are heading to Thailand, Bangkok is one of the world's more touristed cities, overbuilding is rampant, the BTS is clogged and blah blah. All the more reason to dress well and speak politely, say I.

I post and re-post my list of suggestions for Thailand because I'm constantly surprised at how well it works FOR ME. My Thai is lousy but I can greet people politely, make jokes, offer things like snacks appropriately and the dividends are astonishing. These gestures mean a lot to Thais, and perhaps are more meaningful given the glut of farang nowadays. There are some Thais who are just plain burned out and will persist in whatever scheme they have in mind regardless of how you dress/act, but they are the minority. If you are seen as a "jai dee" farang you'll find that Thais in the service industry and elsewhere will be "on your side"...at least while you're doing business at their place. This is a valuable commodity whether you're bargaining for some knick-knack or easing your throbbing unit into Noi's pulsating bunghole upstairs at a Soi 6 brothel. Oops, OK that's Pattaya, but the principle holds true.

Just my opinion, but it works for me.

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Got a good laugh from this...

Probably the next security guard at Nana Plaza...

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I signed up for a premium membership with Smooci. If anyone has any questions about the platform or any specific girls they want to know the reviews on, just ask away in the rating reply to this post.

Smooci premium is currently 50% off all tiers. My first impressions are that the reviews are really short, like one sentence. Every girl's photo is verified, which doesn't mean much when the girls' reviews will say like "Photos are at least five years old." The reviews don't auto-load as you scroll and you want to keep clicking the "load more" button. Some girls have an option for 1 hour, 1 shot.

I read on another forum where a guy wanted to see the hidden reviews. The reviews I don't think are worth it because they really don't say much. I don't think I would pay for this again.

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Reply #30 Freelancer's post

I signed up for the 7 day plan a few months back and also found the reviews to be almost useless. Simple one liners with not much detail.

Back then only 30% of the photos were verified so I thought that was useful. If it's 100% now then that it totally useless.

I think with any escort to the door service it's a lucky dip what will turn up. You can do your due diligence and still end up with someone who looks nothing like the photos.

Smooci is ok and I have used it twice now but you got to be prepared to "roll the dice".

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Originally posted by obe at 8/12/18 09:00 PM
Back then only 30% of the photos were verified so I thought that was useful. If it's 100% now then that it totally useless.
I think with any escort to the door service it's a lucky dip what will turn up. You can do your due diligence and still end up with someone who looks nothing like the photos.

Exactly. The photos being "100% verified" is meaningless when the reviews say that they're 5+ years old or heavily retouched. But if you've been to Thailand before then you know the agencies always do this.

Going through some more girls' reviews, it turns out that many girls don't actually do their listed services, e.g., dfk, bbbj, daty, etc.

The agencies don't list all their girls. I've long theorized that agencies only put their lower demand girls on Smooci since Smooci lists a lower rate for them. Many of the agencies where the rates are 5,000+ THB don't have any girls on Smooci.
Many independents which I found earlier this year and was hoping to see on my upcoming visit are now gone. The number of girls Smooci says they who have listed, 153 when I just checked, seems to be a real time number, but that's lower than the 160 I saw them saying listed just a week ago.


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For you gents who use other services aside from smooci, can you share some of the other agencies? So far I’ve only used smooci and Bangkok Golden (much higher price point) but I found that smooci was better (I limit choices to gals who are a 4.8+) I though the reviews were helpful, but you have to comb through the positive reviews. I’ve found the negative reviews actually offer the most insight.

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Originally posted by Hyped1 at 8/13/18 06:37 AM
For you gents who use other services aside from smooci, can you share some of the other agencies?

Just off the top of my head...
- New Bangkok Escorts
- Bangkok Dreams
- Absolute Angels Escorts
- Exclusive Bangkok Escorts
- Met Bangkok Escorts
- My Princess Escorts
- Pink Bangkok Escorts
- Pure Bangkok Escorts
- Thai Escorts Bangkok

Mind you that it seems agencies don't last more than a few years.

2 hours, 4000 baht is my sweet spot. I'm willing to pay 5,000 or 6,000 baht if the girl is hot. I've seen ads for stunners at 8,000 baht, but then I find out that's for 1 shot.
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Nightwish Group

Hi bros

I see the nightwish group in Soi 6 Pattaya has just purchased "Where Angels Play" bar. This is their 13th bar on the Soi and rumour has it they will be buying another two or three bars.

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Reply #35 obe's post

from bad to worse. there is never an end to the worst.
they have literally ruined soi6 with their open bar, drinking parties, forum meetings, newbie lesson day and facebook pages with useless naughty pics that only attract the attention of RTP and bullshit from mass media.

[ Last edited by  Dr.A at 20-8-2018 22:44 ]

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Please, don't be a Lame Dupe Over Payer (google it if you don't know) while you are in Pattaya (and every where in the world)
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November update tips when going with escort agencies or freelancers advertising online...

A recurring theme from reviews across all Thailand focused forums is that girls don't match their ad descriptions or photos. This is TRUE!

Just assume that every working girl in Thailand is using old and/or heavily Photoshop'd photos. This applies to agencies and freelancers. All those popular in Asia face smoothing and whitening photo apps are also part of it. This is common with all escort agencies in everywhere not just Thailand. Don't take any ad photos at face value.

The girls' descriptions are often bullshit too. Generally you can rely on their listed weight but that's about it. Ignore their age, weight and measurements. Usually they're just copy and paste jobs on all the ads. Obviously the problem now is how do you choose a girl if you can't rely on what the ad says? Well you have to change your mindset when looking at girls online. If you're happy with getting 50% of what's described or shown in the photo then you're good. Same problem with working girl ads everywhere.

Specific to people from America and Canada, bust sizes are different in East/Southeast Asia. Like a 34C in Thailand would be a a 34B in North America. Everything is bigger in America right? Or like a 34A in Thailand would be a girl with no tits in North America. I've often forgotten this and have disappointed myself when the girl shows up at my hotel.

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Originally posted by ramont at 8-7-2018 07:17 PM
@macau, be more specific. Do you mean cities in Thailand or places for sex?


Sex.

I do have a work conference in Phuket next year, but I hear that place is awful for mongering.
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Reply #20 Freelancer's post

I've seen Russians on holiday in Thailand but not any Russian WG's.
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QUOTE:
Originally posted by Dr.A at 13-7-2018 22:44

Airbnb isnt really legal in Thailand, so becareful with this option.
Everytimes i used Airbnb in Thailand i never met the host, no one asked me for copy of my passport nor registration form.
So no le ...

To be honest the communication to hte immigration Department if using Airbnb or even private accomodation is not really going to affect short time mongers or travellers. Again it is mainly going to hit the Expat community as it involves form TM-30.

TM-30 gets automatically reported when you book into your hotel and they take copy of your passport details most hotels have a online system linked to tell immigration that you are there. Reporting for other cases like AirBnb or private renting owning your own condo or living in your own house there are a couple of options. Either you do form TM-30 yourself and take to immigration or your landlord does it for you.

It really wont affect short time stays as this does not involve 90 day report to immigration or you actually going to immigration for any other advice.

It has now bben heard that guys on long term visa who never did form TM-30 before are now gettting fined on their 90 day report if these are not filled in. Things may change and it may get different but as long as you using hotels and guesthouse's there should be no porblems and generally no porblems for most.
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